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Title: Painter fuming over fine for smoking in own van
Post by: lamaros on July 28, 2008, 02:13:50 AM
http://news.sbs.com.au/worldnewsaustralia/index.php?type=category&a=painter_fuming_over_fine_for_smoking_in_own_van_552875

Tee hee?

But seriously, what a stupid fucking fine.


Title: Re: Painter fuming over fine for smoking in own van
Post by: schild on July 28, 2008, 03:20:19 AM
The fine isn't as bad as being submitted to that headline. 'Painter fuming.' Jesus, someone thought himself hilarious.


Title: Re: Painter fuming over fine for smoking in own van
Post by: Lantyssa on July 28, 2008, 07:42:16 AM
Is smoking near a bunch of paint cans a smart thing to do?


Title: Re: Painter fuming over fine for smoking in own van
Post by: Mrbloodworth on July 28, 2008, 08:00:26 AM
No, but god gave man free will, And Darwin wrote down what happens.


Title: Re: Painter fuming over fine for smoking in own van
Post by: angry.bob on July 31, 2008, 09:58:04 AM
Is smoking near a bunch of paint cans a smart thing to do?

Latex paint? Sure. Oil based house paint? Probably, though fumes from the solvents would be troublesome. Any sort of vehicle paint? No.

In high school I worked in a garage with an old mechanic who would weld gas tank punctures, but only if the tank was full. Of gas. He said that the lack of fumes and the large amount of gasoline would keep it from exploding. We also used to shoot gas tanks in the junkyard with an old Model 100 .308 and none of those blew up either.

Making stuff like that catch on fire or explode seems to be a lot harder than generally believed.


Title: Re: Painter fuming over fine for smoking in own van
Post by: Lantyssa on July 31, 2008, 12:13:24 PM
Making stuff like that catch on fire or explode seems to be a lot harder than generally believed.
This I know, but you only need conditions to be wrong once.


Title: Re: Painter fuming over fine for smoking in own van
Post by: Merusk on July 31, 2008, 01:26:53 PM
Is smoking near a bunch of paint cans a smart thing to do?

Latex paint? Sure. Oil based house paint? Probably, though fumes from the solvents would be troublesome. Any sort of vehicle paint? No.

In high school I worked in a garage with an old mechanic who would weld gas tank punctures, but only if the tank was full. Of gas. He said that the lack of fumes and the large amount of gasoline would keep it from exploding. We also used to shoot gas tanks in the junkyard with an old Model 100 .308 and none of those blew up either.

Making stuff like that catch on fire or explode seems to be a lot harder than generally believed.

There was a Mythbusters based around this.   


Title: Re: Painter fuming over fine for smoking in own van
Post by: bhodi on July 31, 2008, 07:12:07 PM
Interestingly enough, and on similar lines, linemen who repair natural gas leaks will weld new pipe directly onto old, or cut into pipe while the gas is flowing inside. They don't turn the gas off before doing so.

It almost never explodes. (The almost part is why the welders make about $100 an hour). In fact, the primary danger is suffocation, since the leaking gas can displace normal air and the welders can easily asphyxiate. Since natural gas requires a very specific mixture to combust (similar to gasoline), it's very difficult to get it to ignite at all, and nearly impossible in a situation where there is too little gas (well ventilated area) or too much (gas leak from a pipe).

In fact, just before the welders start, as a safety precaution, they actually turn UP the gas flowing through the pipe to give the welders a bit of extra safety margin.


Title: Re: Painter fuming over fine for smoking in own van
Post by: Righ on August 02, 2008, 08:21:41 AM
Not a good precedent for smokers who work from home.