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Title: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Fabricated on June 14, 2008, 09:54:47 AM http://forum.gamesradar.com/viewtopic.php?t=120121&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Yeah, link to another forum, but this one is a doozy. Ahahahah. Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: NiX on June 14, 2008, 10:44:10 AM For anyone wondering, some small dev house made a low budget RPG and stole directly from Oblivion, Morrowind, Diablo, Thief, Spawn, Pirates of the Caribbean, Painkiller and Unreal Tournament. Apparently some dialogue was lifted from Rune too. It's worth it to check out the comparison shots. It's just THAT blatant.
Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Grand Design on June 14, 2008, 11:02:59 AM Quote from: Steve Bovis, Creative/Project Director for Limbo of the Lost All of the game (apart from initial background story and some character designs) had to be re-written, all the characters had to be created in 3D and animated, all the background scenes re-created, all the sounds, coding and music?..basically everything had to be redone or newly created for the PC version. This is not an old game that has been dressed up. This is the original concept, dusted off and re-created. Talk about getting caught in a lie. How long did this game take to make? Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Stormwaltz on June 14, 2008, 12:39:49 PM Talk about getting caught in a lie. How long did this game take to make? Ten years. SRSLY. Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: stu on June 14, 2008, 01:29:59 PM It's the Frankenstein of video games! Talk about bold game design.
Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Grand Design on June 14, 2008, 01:55:50 PM After reading the concept of the game, the lawyer in me said, "it takes place in the Bermuda Triangle! Of course there are elements of other games in it!"
Its not outright stealing, its post-modern video game art. Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: schild on June 14, 2008, 02:29:32 PM Ah, Limbo of the Lost. Yea, NeoGAF has been all over this.
Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Fabricated on June 14, 2008, 03:57:06 PM Ah, Limbo of the Lost. Yea, NeoGAF has been all over this. What's NeoGAF again?Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: MahrinSkel on June 14, 2008, 06:15:05 PM Ah, Limbo of the Lost. Yea, NeoGAF has been all over this. What's NeoGAF again?--Dave EDIT: An example, Unreal Tournemant in the first, Limbo of the Lost in the second: (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/rahkogen/UT2004-6-12-2008-DM-Helmzdeep-00035.jpg) (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/rahkogen/Snap3.jpg) Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: KallDrexx on June 15, 2008, 07:45:29 AM Best guess appears to be they used a utility that can suck the models and texture right out of the video card. But then that still doesn't explain their copying of light sources and particle effects. Seems like they had to go through a good bit of manual look to keep them looking the same lol. Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Jobu on June 16, 2008, 01:29:10 PM Best guess appears to be they used a utility that can suck the models and texture right out of the video card. But then that still doesn't explain their copying of light sources and particle effects. Seems like they had to go through a good bit of manual look to keep them looking the same lol. It's just screenshots with a 3D model super-imposed on top of them. Kind of like Grim Fandango, FF7, or the first Resident Evil. Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Grand Design on June 16, 2008, 01:35:36 PM Wow, if that's true, then they really did nothing. Anyone played to confirm?
Step One - Alt+Printscreen Step Two - Profit! Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: rk47 on June 16, 2008, 06:14:47 PM that's just amazing isn't it. It's like back in grade sch where this classmate of mine is soooo gooood at drawing anime char, then i asked how he did it. He put a semi-transparent paper on his manga n trace with pencil. :uhrr: I wasn't that impressed afterwards.
Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: stray on June 16, 2008, 06:51:14 PM This is even more insulting than those DeVry commercials.
"Get your free game demos!" [edit] Caught up a little more on the assets.. Really, shit like this is so bad it even makes ME feel bad and embarassed. Not sure how to explain that, but... Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Sky on June 17, 2008, 06:20:08 AM Just pretend it was a hot trampy bartender with issues that developed the game. :awesome_for_real:
Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: stray on June 17, 2008, 07:07:09 AM Just "bartender" is fine. But lets not go there. :nda:
Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Lantyssa on June 17, 2008, 07:42:18 AM Ten years. Well, they had to wait for the games to come out first to be able to copy them!SRSLY. Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Sky on June 17, 2008, 08:09:24 AM Just "bartender" is fine. But lets not go there. :nda: My bad, sorry.Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Slyfeind on June 17, 2008, 09:11:37 AM This is AWESOME! This is going to be the Turkish Star Wars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Star_Wars) of video games!!!
Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: lac on June 17, 2008, 10:22:27 AM I have no clue how hard this kind of thing is but if it could become trivial to create a world with 3d objects you have select at will from other games, it would take modding and homebrew games to a whole new level (ignoring all things ip here).
They shouldn't have released this game, they should have released their toolset. :drill: Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: lamaros on June 17, 2008, 09:09:42 PM I have no clue how hard this kind of thing is but if it could become trivial to create a world with 3d objects you have select at will from other games, it would take modding and homebrew games to a whole new level (ignoring all things ip here). They shouldn't have released this game, they should have released their toolset. :drill: It's a point n click with static background from my understanding. Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Ratman_tf on June 17, 2008, 11:16:40 PM That is so great. I've ripped sprite artwork for some of my Visual Basic games, but I never thought about publishing them! :grin:
Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: rk47 on June 18, 2008, 12:08:29 AM HAHAHA fuck. it is exactly as one previous poster mentioned then, PRINT SCREEN , CTRL V , Profit.
Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: lac on June 18, 2008, 11:25:25 PM Quote It's a point n click with static background from my understanding. "Wintermute Engine Development Kit is a set of tools for creating and running graphical point&click adventure games, both traditional 2D ones and modern 2.5D games (3D characters on 2D backgrounds). The kit includes the runtime interpreter (Wintermute Engine, or WME) and GUI editors for managing and creating the game content (WME tools) as well as the documentation, demonstrational data and prefabricated templates." All the backgrounds they stole are screenshots from other games. They made a 3D character to move (with scaling) on 2D backgrounds. Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: tazelbain on June 19, 2008, 08:01:13 AM Nice. They are even more lazy than I expected. And the plan was even more silly than imagined. At least if you ripped the art assests, you have some small plausable deniablity.
Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Grand Design on June 24, 2008, 07:13:14 AM Spoilers, lost sanity, etc. await at this link. (http://kotaku.com/5018591/spoilers-limbo-of-the-losts-terrifying-ending)
I am starting to think this entire game is the result of a lost bet. Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: IainC on June 24, 2008, 08:02:06 AM Developers: we had no idea that we were shamelessly ripping off other games (http://kotaku.com/5019034/limbo-of-the-lost-devs-protest-innocence).
Title: Re: In this Topic: Original Game Design! Post by: Grand Design on June 24, 2008, 08:25:41 AM Quote from: GnatB on Kotaku I'm actually sorta curious if they thought they were legally using the screen grabs under satire laws and such. From what I understand there is some leniency in terms of what you're legally allowed to do when it comes to satire and copyright, and from what I've seen of the screenshots, (assuming the ones in this article are really from the game) it definitely looks like a satire of some sort. Gentlemen, meet your lawyer. Especially after watching the ending video (arguably a Portal |