f13.net

I was in best buy today picking up AoC and saw they had WAR preorder boxes up. The BestBuy items are some sort of portable camp to heal and rest at and a magic ring that has a chance of adding frost damage when you hit. Does anyone know what the other chains get, or are they all the same?

Also, what's the word on the F13 beta entrance?

http://www.warhammeronline.com/ce_preorder/

Three different rings, all PvE damage only. 

All preorders get:

http://www.warhammeronline.com/collectorsedition/

 :grin:

waaagh?

Best collectors edition ever. Just cause of the miniature  :drill:

I was hitting Amazon to pick it up then got hit with sticker shock.. $104 with next day air....

Read: If you're not in it you're the odd ones out, eh? :(

Do we have a WAR forum for testers here? Or did all the mods not get in? It's definitely a tough beta to join.

I've been in BETA for about a year now.

I'm in the AoC beta now, that count?  :grin:

I'm in this beta and Righ has been in for ages.  He's not playing games much right now though.  He's been doing other stuff.  Stuff I don't understand.  (http://www.smileyplanet.de/sin/smilies/schockiert_4.gif)

I can see that I'm in from my beta account, but I can't actually get in because of a defunct e-mail address.

Torture.

Why don't you ask them for help? I would guess James Nichols would probably be the right guy to contact, or at least he can point you to the right guy.

I've been in the beta for a long time and play very occasionally. I have no idea if I got in as a result of being here or not, but I think it was my individual app. I should probably log in and do my duty, but I burned out on LOTRO and ATITD3 before they even released by playing the beta and I really don't want to do that with War.

I wish there was a place I could disucss  :nda: topics with sane people rather than rabid fan boys on the official beta forums.

A forum ouside of the Beta forums would kind of break the :nda: in the first place, yes?  And discussions on that forum wouldn't be seen by anyone official, and would be even more useless than you think the official ones are.  It'd just be pointless whining and questions on how to do things.

Not that I'm sure other groups don't have them.  (There was an open one I googled up about 2 months ago, no less. Idiots) but if they do they're likely to keep it quiet for fear of being booted if they were found out.

Of course you are correct, but I like avoiding fanboyism at all costs.

I'm on same terms here. Been in beta for a year now, but try to not log on too often. Cause I'm dragging my entire guild in at release and the newbie feeling is what really keeps bringing me back. Knowing every path, road and shortcut demotivates me every time.

I hate all you  :nda: bastards.

I honestly don't know why they bother with the  :nda:.  There are several betaleaks sites that are easily accessible that have almost all of the information you could want (skill treees, videos, SS, etc...).  They should just lift the NDA and be done with it.

With some betas the admins at F13 get permission to create a private forum for testers only. We had one for LOTRO awhile back. But they need permission and every admin and mod on the forums needs to be in the beta so NDA isn't broken. I'm kinda surprised that we don't have it for WAR since (Eldin aside) the diaspora has such a long friendly relationship with the guys at mythic, but like I said-- WAR is one tight-ass beta to get into. No joke.

Those beta leak sites are scummy and reputable sites won't break NDA. If they were in open beta, you'd have streaming live beta video right on IGN's homepage. I would assume they don't feel the game is ready for that kind of exposure.

They made it perfectly clear that we are not allowed to discuss the game outside the official places, even with just other beta players. Unfortunately.

Yep it's one tight-ass beta on all fronts.

One thing I'd like them to do is release some screenshot where the graphic quality isn't from zero to asstastic.

 :pedobear:

Well, except for the closed beta keys Mythic gave to apparently anyone who walked up to the booth at Games Day this weekend. Along with a code to redeem for some sort of special skaven cloak when it's live. So my question is, if they're handing out closed beta codes to literally thousands of mouth breathing, NDA breaking 14 year olds, how the fuck is the F13 guild not in, or if it is in, how the fuck am I not in with it as I've been talking about the damn thing since they announced it and was like the third one to post in that thread to sign up for it.

No.  The keys from Games Day simply give you 'better' odds of getting into beta at some point.   Preferred seating or some such concept.      I've been registered on that stupid beta forum for close to forever, threw in the Games Day key, and I'm still not in it yet.

Just play WoW instead - it's pretty much the same game except WoW's PvE is better done and you don't have server wipes every few weeks.  :awesome_for_real:

:rofl:

Uh huh. And using that code, you're able to download and play the beta, right? No? Ahhh, OK then.

According to the people who got them and posted about it, they were. Do I know them IRL? No. Since the sampling of people who say that's the case is much larger than the one guy here who says otherwise, I don't have much reason to doubt them. Besides, mythic making a skaven cloak that I can't get makes them cocksuckers on principle.

I talked to the staff in line and repeated what they told me on here.  So hey, I guess you're seeing the lucky ones. or maybe they've got a pre-order code along with the rest of the bennies and that was enough to cross some sekrit threshold.  Either way, I've no reason to lie about the fact that a Games Day 2008 code is not immediate access.
 

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I'm in the :nda: but didn't get in via f13.

I have an idea of why the f13 thing didn't pan out, but I'm not sure how accurate it is or if I can talk about it here, beyond saying something looked really fucked up on the part of  :nda:, and it's not schild's fault.

Eh, from what I have been reading they are doing the Beta in stages anyway, so getting in to the Beta will not necessarily ruin the game experience for you as they are very specific in what they are testing during each phase  (I think they are redoing the goblin/dwarf testing in the current phase).

AS for the leaks sites being "shady," I really can't speak to that.  Most of the information seems accurate (including vids and screenshots) and the general impression is overall very positive toward the game...  The debate seems thoughtful, although there are similar complaints that it is difficult to discuss real issues on the official Mythic boards because of the fanboism.  But, even folks who used to bash it are starting to come around.  Which is why I can't figure out why the :nda: is still up.  Unless they want to polish the game to a mirrored sheen before they release.

In any event I'm impressed with some of the innovations they are pushing forward, especially with tanks (making taunt mechanisms effective in PvP) and healers (damage dealing increases healing).  Although the waiting is killing me. 

There are a few things with this game that make me want to think that it's not going to be "great", but what the hell do I know.

Besides the fact there are elves in it? Fuck elves.

If we have learned anything over the years, it should be that it is always schild's fault somehow.  :drill:

There will be plenty of elves to kill regardless of which side you choose.  :grin:

Has guild beta even started? if not can I get added to the queue for an invite  :grin:

I am not in beta but...there is a lot of talk about doins' a transpirin' in WAR.  Perusal of the standard source is perhaps warranted if you are a fan. 

Not quite yet, but soon. If you're referring to what I think you're referring to.

Now we can say it openly, cause the newsletter is out!  Guild beta is upon us!  Maybe we are finally in the homestretch...

Podcast was quite interesting.  Banner Tactics could add some depth.

Kickass

ditto for me!

Got the newsletter, so the guild beta is before the closed "open beta" :(

Sigh  :heartbreak:, back to D2!

I'm really looking forward to the NDA being dropped and seeing everyone's opinion (good and bad).

Add this scrub to the list, too, please.

Just imagine a bizarro-world mirror opposite of Age of Conan.

That would be so good / so bad as to defy belief. Are the women in the game all nuns?

It doesn't matter so much in warhammer because all elves are ebil.

Same thing's true in WoW, though.  :grin:

Really? I thought Blood Elves were horde?

I'm confused by the above conversation.  Both sides in both games have elves.

That's great and all, but when are we getting into guild beta dammit?

As much as i really like AOC, i will be checking out WAR.

I have two CE's on pre-order, but I'm apparently destined to never make it into the beta.. :(

Do I need to start removing names from the list? Is that where we're going with this?

No, but if you add mine I'll let you touch me in the no no place again.

Ahh never mind, you know I'd let you do it even though I'm not on the list.

I'm sorry the rest of you had to see that.

Yes.  Remove them and add mine.

what list are we talking about here?

Be sure to keep your beta account up to date. Even if you manage to get a guild beta code, you may not get an invite if your system doesn't meet their unannounced system requirements.  (Same issue has plagued all the other beta codes)  

There is a list?!?!?  What sort of groveling does one have to do to get on said list?  I can wash a mean car.

Now he's gone and done it!

There was sign-up thread a year ago.  It's hidden now.  It's anybody's guess if Schild is using it as his list.

F13 was selected for beta back in August, but obviously it was in exteremely limited numbers if any at all.

It can generally be assumed the Schild hates the whining associated with beta whoring and is keeping quit. He would like you to do the same.

Way to kill a thread that was just about to take off  :awesome_for_real:

*snip*

What did I say that was against  :nda:

The only reason I post here is to eventually annoy schild into banning me.  Thus I like to hone in on things I think will annoy him, and do it.  Repeatedly if I'm feeling unoriginal on that day.

I don't ban enough for that to be a useful strategy.

Such blissfully ignorant enthusiasm.

That will make the eventual ban even that much sweeter.

Hell I bought this account on ebay anyways, not like it means all that much to me.

STOP!  You're at post number 1111!!!!1!

Okay.  Carry on.

Ah, sorry... I will shut up now.

Mark Jacobs quote on NDA lifting...

http://vnboards.ign.com/Message.aspx?topic=107766481&brd=22997&start=107829223

"Well before open beta"- if I were a betting man, I'd say we see it drop about a month from now. 

I'm looking forward to the NDA being dropped, more because I find the strikingly unusual way they're conducting closed beta worthy of discussion than the game itself. Hopefully Mark and co. will weigh in with a post-mortem on the beta when the game is finally released.

FAIRFAX, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Mythic Entertainment, an Electronic Arts studio (NASDAQ:ERTS), today announced that the Guild Beta for Warhammer® Online: Age of Reckoning™ (WAR) has begun. Over 10,000 guilds applied and those selected will have the chance to experience the game’s most expansive beta phase yet.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/239/feature/2041/page/1

Capitol Cities being dropped to 1 city per side.
Four classes being dropped.

Anti-hack programming being revealed.

On the upside, it looks like my Games Day code was finally good for something so I can now log in and see what asshatery has occured.

Got a preorder box at my local Gamestop today even though I'd had a preorder in for nearly a year now.  Inside was a card with Open Beta access code and a code for head start/ingame items.  It also had a pack of WAR Universal Fighting System card game. 

My local shop in Columbus, Oh did 250+ WoW xpacs at the midnight launch.  Yet it only has preorders for 10 sold-out collectors for WAR and maybe 12 for the regular edition.  I would have expected more people preordering, honestly.  Even AoC had 40+. 

The sense I get for the release of WAR is a resounding meh.

I get the feeling of the release of WAR is an "are they releasing now? I'm not sure, they haven't even had an open beta" variety.

With the simple lack of buzz surrounding WAR with (supposedly) only 6 weeks till launch, I'm expecting a push back on the release date.  I wonder if they're trying to decide.  I mean, six weeks till launch and they haven't even given a firm date?  Strange business, imo.

I think you underestimate the Word of Mouth buzz value of a Guild Beta.  As long as the guildies that show up like what they see, anyway.  You let in 5 or so from each guild, and let them invite 5 more each in a later phase, and if all goes according to plan for every 1 person you let into the Guild beta you get 30 in the final.  Worked for Camelot, we'll see how it does for Warhammer.

--Dave

Aren't they just eyeballing blizzard? It seems they've been doing a 'sur place' (where both cyclists try to go as slow as possible to force the lead on the other so they can use their opponents momentum to their own advantange) forever concerning their launch dates.

Maybe you're right.  If that's the case, then I've simply got terrible luck, because I don't know anyone in WAR's beta (literally nobody in my WoW guild was invited).  I'm generally invited to just about every beta I can remember, except WAR's.  No biggie, but it surely plays against building buzz for me.

Of course, I realize they're not developing the game for me... but I tend to think I'm in the middle of things with game releases (avid player, not a developer or even in the business).  When I'm not seeing enough buzz for a game that's supposed to be out in six weeks, it just seems odd. 

As I said before, I've got an idea that Mythic would rather a smaller, successful launch than a bigger than Ben Hur launch that crashes the servers and leaves newly subbed players angry at them.

Provided WAR gets enough players to create a critical buzz around launch, this could be a very good strategy. They constrained demand at DAOC's launch by limiting the number of available boxes too.

Of course, if WAR gets bad initial reviews, Mythic will be deeper in it than Funcom because at least Funcom shipped 1m boxes and got 700k players for a period of time.