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Title: Is it really that simple? Post by: Murgos on June 13, 2008, 09:01:00 AM Japan mandates waist sizes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/world/asia/13fat.html?no_interstitial 33.5 inches for men and 35.4 inches for women or face fines with the goal of no more fat people in 4 years. I'm thinking we should go for it. Diabetes? Gone! Overflow on airplanes? GONE! Quote Yoichi Ogushi, a professor at Tokai University’s School of Medicine near Tokyo and an expert on public health, said that there was “no need at all” for the Japanese to lose weight. “I don’t think the campaign will have any positive effect. Now if you did this in the United States, there would be benefits, since there are many Americans who weigh more than 100 kilograms,” or about 220 pounds, Mr. Ogushi said. “But the Japanese are so slender that they can’t afford to lose weight.” Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: Merusk on June 13, 2008, 09:05:49 AM God I fucking love Japan. My authoritarian little heart just went pitter-pat. :drill:
Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: Brogarn on June 13, 2008, 09:06:36 AM I'm going with "no". Sounds more like something the UK should do considering their love of Big Brother.
Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: schild on June 13, 2008, 09:40:06 AM 33.5 inches? That seems huge for Japan. Reasonable I suppose.
Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: stray on June 13, 2008, 09:55:03 AM Reasonable is when it's guys like you and I who are 6' +.
For Japan, that's a generous limit! At 4'9", 33.5 would be a fatass. :oh_i_see: Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: Teleku on June 13, 2008, 10:28:21 AM Wait, why the hell are women allowed a bigger waste size?
YOUR DOING IT ALL WRONG. Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: Miasma on June 13, 2008, 10:39:18 AM I have to call my broker and sell my vast array of Sumo related holdings.
Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: Bandit on June 13, 2008, 11:02:31 AM I have to call my broker and sell my vast array of Sumo related holdings. ha! fuck me...that made me actually lol....lol. Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: HAMMER FRENZY on June 13, 2008, 11:44:01 AM I love this idea. Man that is awesome.
Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: Lantyssa on June 14, 2008, 08:15:47 PM Wait, why the hell are women allowed a bigger waste size? Pregnancy? Maybe the Japanese measure the waist where we would call the measurement hips?YOUR DOING IT ALL WRONG. If it's the hips ye gods. Even at my thinnest I couldn't squeeze into 35.4" and my build is 'twig'. The waist isn't that much better since we're not all blessed with hour glass figures. Yes, we tend to be taller, but not every Japanese woman is short. Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: photek on June 15, 2008, 09:52:45 AM Quote When his turn came, Mr. Nogiri, the flower shop owner, entered a booth where he bared his midriff, exposing a flat stomach with barely discernible love handles. A nurse wrapped a tape measure around his waist across his belly button: 33.6 inches, or 0.1 inch over the limit. “Strikeout,” he said, defeat spreading across his face. Win. Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: stray on June 15, 2008, 12:27:59 PM Wait, why the hell are women allowed a bigger waste size? Pregnancy? Maybe the Japanese measure the waist where we would call the measurement hips?YOUR DOING IT ALL WRONG. If it's the hips ye gods. Even at my thinnest I couldn't squeeze into 35.4" and my build is 'twig'. The waist isn't that much better since we're not all blessed with hour glass figures. Yes, we tend to be taller, but not every Japanese woman is short. I'm pretty sure everyone measures waist. Hip measuring doesn't seem to be very useful. Anyhow, don't feel bad. Women tend to have bigger hips, even if they're skinny. It's that whole "curvy, child bearing" thing, I guess. Heh. Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: Endie on June 15, 2008, 04:07:26 PM I'm going with "no". Sounds more like something the UK should do considering their love of Big Brother. Sensible policies for a happier Britain. Maybe they should set minimum bust sizes for women, too. A holistic approach would yield dividends, here. Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: WindupAtheist on June 15, 2008, 10:07:30 PM Not scaling it by height seems pretty stupid. I mean I know they all tend to be pretty short over there, but it's not like they're all fucking clones.
Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: Cyrrex on June 16, 2008, 06:31:33 AM Here's a crazy idea: why not just measure body fat percentage instead?
Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: Murgos on June 16, 2008, 06:42:50 AM Here's a crazy idea: why not just measure body fat percentage instead? You just don't get the brutal simplicity of it do you? Black & white, 33.5, yes or no? Complicating it with things like proportion or composition voids the merit of the whole concept. What's next? Medical Conditions? What about psychological conditions? You start down that path and the slope will lead you to what we have today, no, it's all or nothing. I say that when the rest of the world adopts this concept they go even further, in one hand a tape measure, the other? A .38. Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: Cyrrex on June 16, 2008, 06:53:21 AM Sorry, you're right. My idea might be more logical, but I actually like yours better.
Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: Arnold on June 17, 2008, 03:11:41 AM Japan mandates waist sizes: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/world/asia/13fat.html?no_interstitial 33.5 inches for men and 35.4 inches for women or face fines with the goal of no more fat people in 4 years. I'm thinking we should go for it. Diabetes? Gone! Overflow on airplanes? GONE! Quote Yoichi Ogushi, a professor at Tokai University’s School of Medicine near Tokyo and an expert on public health, said that there was “no need at all” for the Japanese to lose weight. “I don’t think the campaign will have any positive effect. Now if you did this in the United States, there would be benefits, since there are many Americans who weigh more than 100 kilograms,” or about 220 pounds, Mr. Ogushi said. “But the Japanese are so slender that they can’t afford to lose weight.” Ehh, I haven't had a waist that small since the 5th grade. Granted, I need to lose some pounds now, but with those restrictions, I'd be paying a fine as a thin, high-school athlete. BMI is the same damn BS. BF% is the only real measurement you can use for these kind of laws. Title: Re: Is it really that simple? Post by: Endie on June 17, 2008, 03:28:39 AM Japan mandates waist sizes: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/world/asia/13fat.html?no_interstitial 33.5 inches for men and 35.4 inches for women or face fines with the goal of no more fat people in 4 years. I'm thinking we should go for it. Diabetes? Gone! Overflow on airplanes? GONE! Ehh, I haven't had a waist that small since the 5th grade. Granted, I need to lose some pounds now, but with those restrictions, I'd be paying a fine as a thin, high-school athlete. BMI is the same damn BS. BF% is the only real measurement you can use for these kind of laws. Yep, just goes to show that variations in build are a huge determinant. By comparison, I'm a 190lbs rugby player, only 5'11 if we are rounding up, and yet have a waist size of 33 inches and so would be fine by this. But on the BMI scale I am into the top half of overweight :uhrr: |