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Title: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Signe on June 02, 2008, 01:11:26 PM
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Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on June 02, 2008, 01:18:52 PM
Seems a good number of SOE games are doing this.

 :tinfoil:


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: HaemishM on June 02, 2008, 01:32:23 PM
Play free for 2 months? I might actually consider that.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Venkman on June 02, 2008, 01:43:34 PM
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millions of past, present and future EverQuest®II players
I dispute this number. Where's my charts!?!

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Earn up to twenty (20) months of free game play added at the end of your current subscription by recruiting friends who become EverQuest II subscribers.
Ponzi called. He wants his scheme back*

In all seriousness though, this looks like a nice thing. I may check it out as well.

* semi-kidding. I just always wanted to use the <somebody>-called thing  :grin:


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Simond on June 02, 2008, 01:48:06 PM
http://livinglegacy.station.sony.com/en/index.vm
EQ(1) as well as EQ2, if anyone is even remotely interested.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Murgos on June 02, 2008, 01:50:45 PM
I should have unsubscribed earlier, then the whole reason I quit, that I didn't want to pay extra for Kunark, would have been moot.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: WayAbvPar on June 02, 2008, 01:59:54 PM
I wouldn't play it for two months if they paid me 5 times the subscription fee. God I hated that fucking game.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Montague on June 02, 2008, 02:12:47 PM
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the Sony way.
The time is gone. The game is over.
Thought I'd something more to say...


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Oban on June 02, 2008, 02:21:51 PM
It's a shame that it had to be this way
It's not enough to say I'm sorry
It's not enough to say I'm sorry

Maybe I'm to blame
Or maybe were the same
But either way I can't breathe
Either way I can't breathe

All I had to say is goodbye
Were better off this way
Were better off this way

I'm alive but I'm losing all my drive
Cause everything were been through
And everything about you
Seemed to be a lie
A guiltless twisted lie
It made me learn to hate you
Or hate myself for letting it pass by

All I had to say is goodbye
Were better off this way
Were better off this way
All I had to say is goodbye
Were better off this way
Were better off this way

And every, everything isn't only
What it seemed so hold these
Words that you never told me
Its time to say goodbye
Its time to say goodbye
Its time to say goodbye
Goodbye

Bye


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Lt.Dan on June 02, 2008, 02:53:09 PM
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Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Signe on June 02, 2008, 02:54:01 PM
Uh oh.  Now we have to den this thread.  It's Oban's fault!

I think I'm pretty much done with EQ2.  I bought all the expansions and I played off and on for months and months.  Sometimes even in a row!  I've even deleted it from my computer.  WoW, too.  Done done done.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Tmon on June 02, 2008, 02:58:38 PM
Gives me something to do while I wait out AOC's first month.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Lt.Dan on June 02, 2008, 03:01:04 PM
I'd play if I wasn't playing AoC.  I think I got bored somewhere in the mid 20s, so picking it up again with a few more people around might be fun for a month or so. 


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: rk47 on June 02, 2008, 03:14:27 PM
Uh oh.  Now we have to den this thread.  It's Oban's fault!

I think I'm pretty much done with EQ2.  I bought all the expansions and I played off and on for months and months.  Sometimes even in a row!  I've even deleted it from my computer.  WoW, too.  Done done done.

won't u come and grind with meeee
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m20/r3dknight/darkelf.jpg)


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Lantyssa on June 02, 2008, 03:19:34 PM
Neat!  If nothing else, I can see if my new system can handle Neriak without choking and dying.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Murgos on June 02, 2008, 03:22:15 PM
Heh, Wizards.  They're expert hunters.

Old guy in a robe with a big pointy hat is exactly the look I go for when stalking deer.  The fake beard keeps getting caught in the underbrush but it helps the immersion factor by 10x.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Grimwell on June 02, 2008, 09:45:00 PM
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millions of past, present and future EverQuest®II players
I dispute this number. Where's my charts!?!
You know I can't cough up and prove it, but you'd be surprised how many people have tried EQII. EQ is (naturally) a much larger pool. This doesn't even include the accounts that were banned for being gold farmers. They were obviously not invited back.

To help fuel the speculation and rumors... both games are ripe for this opportunity. Neither is what most folks remember, so why not do it? The 'invite your friends and get free time' idea is way overdue, I agree. I nearly gave the marketing guy a hug after hearing everything he wanted to do. Then I punched him instead. He's a good guy. :)

I'm very interested in the long term on this one. What percentage return, where their characters are at. How many of them stay along, and then stats on the levels and grouping rates of those who leave. I love data though, I'm a nerd.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Kitsune on June 03, 2008, 12:46:04 AM
I'm giving them a try.  I've been curious about whatever happened to my old EQ stuff, and it's free.  But odds are good that I'll log in, be completely lost on account of not remembering what any of my characters' items and spells do or what I was in the middle of doing when I quit, log out again, and uninstall the games.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Ubvman on June 03, 2008, 01:04:38 AM
I can see it working for EQ2 but I doubt it will do much for EQ1.

I'll just log in grab my free EQ1 loot and stuff (bribe) and see how it goes - I have the game backed up on an old DVD-R. The core problem for me is that the game is still fundamentally the same. You  can't solo worth a damn in EQ1, grind-grind-grind, SOE is EVIL, tradeskills suck, SOE HATES YOU! AND YOUR CAT TOO!  etc. etc. On top of that - WoW is doing ok for me except for the Monday patch days (which is right smack on Oceanic Tuesday prime time).

The problem as I see it is that EQ1 development has painted itself into a corner. The core game play is situated at the very tippy-tippy top of level 80 raiding with 2000+ aaxp (I may exaggerate but I don't think I am far off) - thats at least several months (if not a year's worth) of hard grind play. The learning curve for EQ1 these days is fucking Mount Everest with the corpse of zombie George Mallory smiling at you.

Two months free play at a moderately accelerated pace is just not enough to bring back lapsed obsolete old timers like me let alone gain new people. It might bring back some of the WoW crowd but will do nothing for the people trying out the new shiny in AoC.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Azazel on June 03, 2008, 01:19:58 AM
I got that email today - the EQ1 version.

I'll give it a go - I've been interested in showing my wife around the old game (and seeing how much of the old game is still left). Now that she knows how to play WoW, she'll be able to "get it" a little. She can run my druid, I'll run my SK, and then I'll 3-box my mate's cleric to rez us  :grin:



Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Wasted on June 03, 2008, 02:05:38 AM
I didn't get the email but according to my station account I got an active subscription till 1st of August.  Too bad I uninstalled EQ2 to make room for Conan :/


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Kirth on June 03, 2008, 02:14:46 AM
EQ2 is worth giving a go if your on the fence, the few months I played it were fun. I even convinced a few friends to give it a try, but we all walked away. Its especially worth it if you haven't seen the Kunark starting areas.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: HRose on June 03, 2008, 03:35:49 AM
EQ2 is off my radar since Hartsman left. At least he used to have short and long term plans. Now I really don't know in which direction EQ2 is going and AoC is probably doing what I expected, taking huge chunks off EQ2, DAoC and Lotr.

A while ago they were working on the model/animations revamp, anything new about those? Was the project just scrapped?

Playing for free wouldn't bring me back to EQ2, something new and interesting may.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Hawkbit on June 03, 2008, 03:59:51 AM
I'm dling EQ1 right now, I've actually been itching to see a bit of that world again.  I suspect all the things that used to torque me off will do so again and I won't make it a month, but morg gaming is bleak, so maybe I'll look past it. 

EQ2 really had a great xpac with Kunark.  I had a lot of fun doing the newb stuff in Kunark (1-22).  Sadly, they try to push you out into the old game at that point and it simply didn't flow like the first part.  I got lost/bored and finally quit.  Looked neat, just couldn't retain my interest. 

Since they're free, maybe I'll try both.  :/


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Numtini on June 03, 2008, 04:11:05 AM
Well, just my experience with EQ2, but we probably lost 2/3rds of our guild to AOC. We went from a waiting list to get a spot on the raid team to cancelling raids because we didn't have enough people. All literally overnight.

And while I think EQ2 is an excellent excellent game, I'd share the feeling that I don't have a lot of faith in the current direction. You can get a pretty solid vibe of when a team is moving forward and looking for new interesting things and when, well, not a whole lot is happening. From Faydwer or a little before to Kunark, EQ2 had an enormous amount of effort put in and you could tell. It showed in the normal patches, it showed in the free releases, it showed in Kunark. But since Kunark, it's really felt like it was on maintenance, and even more so recently.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: raydeen on June 03, 2008, 04:48:06 AM
Well, if any of you end up on Cazic-Thule (EQ1) let me know. I've got a 56 BL (Kyldaely), 30-something mage (Shinoko) and 40-something druid (Gwynyd) that need to get out and stretch their legs. Got some lowbies too that I could tool around with.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on June 03, 2008, 06:12:31 AM
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millions of past, present and future EverQuest®II players
I dispute this number. Where's my charts!?!
You know I can't cough up and prove it, but you'd be surprised how many people have tried EQII. EQ is (naturally) a much larger pool. This doesn't even include the accounts that were banned for being gold farmers. They were obviously not invited back.

To help fuel the speculation and rumors... both games are ripe for this opportunity. Neither is what most folks remember, so why not do it? The 'invite your friends and get free time' idea is way overdue, I agree. I nearly gave the marketing guy a hug after hearing everything he wanted to do. Then I punched him instead. He's a good guy. :)

I'm very interested in the long term on this one. What percentage return, where their characters are at. How many of them stay along, and then stats on the levels and grouping rates of those who leave. I love data though, I'm a nerd.


You need to stop focusing on thoes games  :raspberry:, and give planetside some much needed love.

You have a gold mine there, and you wont do anything with it. Get a new engine that runs better on modern hardware, keep the concepts. Improve it. I think you would be surprised at how many people would love to see a Planetside 2. And no, the agency dosn't fill the need, sorry.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: El Gallo on June 03, 2008, 07:01:19 AM
EQ1 is a better game than it used to be. It's group-oriented, but the group game is much more interesting and rewarding that any time. Downtime is much, much lower and XP is much, much faster.

Unfortunately, few new players (the few that will even try the dated graphics and such an old, declining title) ever see it.  They've done some things (hot zones, big scaling bonuses to AAXP the fewer you have, much better tradeable loot, removed most key and flag requirements, etc) to make it easier to catch up. But still, it's quite a steep mountain from level 1 to level 80 with a core few hundred AAs, which is what you need to start playing the "real game" (i.e. 80, where other people actually are). That's for a non-tank, forget starting a new tank character unless you are willing to devote a LOT of time and are coming back with a group or box (the game is very good for boxing). 

Most classes can solo to 80 + respectable AA (even the hybrid tanks, but again tanks need a lot more AA and about 1,000x the gearing effort) and start playing the real game. But that's a lonely life and, while there is more quest-based advancement than before, it's far from any of the post-WoW games which made the solo grind more palatable by dividing it into chunks of ten bear asses each.

But once you get there, it's a decent game. Slower paced than the modern games, but some like that. It's not "raid-or-die" anymore. Not bad for a group of friends, a grouping-oriented family guild, or lone wolf boxers who want to progress through a fuckton of decent-to-good content.

But the 1-75 game is a cancer. They should stop beating around the bush and just eliminate it completely. Or add some easily-soloable-by-all quests designed to get characters from 1 to 75+300+baseline gear really, really fast.



Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Tmon on June 03, 2008, 07:35:31 AM
I think I downloaded the wrong trial, I could only choose to be a fay, is there one that lets me play any class or am I stuck?


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: HaemishM on June 03, 2008, 07:37:15 AM
I'm downloading the EQ2 game on the Station Launcher now. The thing that convinced me was the Kunark expansion. I always wanted to see that in ShineyVision (TM).

Hey Grim, you need to slap your web site team. Those Living Legacy pages really did a pisspoor job of explaining where to get the client if you didn't already have it installed. And since you're giving away the Kunark expansion and all the other expansions for free, your web site really needs a "Download This Package to get the Whole Thing" button. As it is, I'm still not sure I'm actually downloading the expansions with the regular game.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: sam, an eggplant on June 03, 2008, 08:26:46 AM
Free everquest? That doesn't sound like a very good deal.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: WayAbvPar on June 03, 2008, 08:36:50 AM
Kinda like free smallpox blankets.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: HRose on June 03, 2008, 08:51:57 AM
Hey Grim, you need to slap your web site team. Those Living Legacy pages really did a pisspoor job of explaining where to get the client if you didn't already have it installed. And since you're giving away the Kunark expansion and all the other expansions for free, your web site really needs a "Download This Package to get the Whole Thing" button. As it is, I'm still not sure I'm actually downloading the expansions with the regular game.
There are checkboxes in the login thingie.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: HaemishM on June 03, 2008, 09:00:39 AM
The login thingie is not on the website. The website also doesn't tell me to look for checkboxes on the login thingie. I am a web site designer for a living, and thus I know when a promotional website doesn't do a good job of explaining things. This does a pisspoor job of explaining those things.

It's pretty, though.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Wahn on June 03, 2008, 09:16:26 AM
Well, just my experience with EQ2, but we probably lost 2/3rds of our guild to AOC. We went from a waiting list to get a spot on the raid team to cancelling raids because we didn't have enough people. All literally overnight.

And while I think EQ2 is an excellent excellent game, I'd share the feeling that I don't have a lot of faith in the current direction. You can get a pretty solid vibe of when a team is moving forward and looking for new interesting things and when, well, not a whole lot is happening. From Faydwer or a little before to Kunark, EQ2 had an enormous amount of effort put in and you could tell. It showed in the normal patches, it showed in the free releases, it showed in Kunark. But since Kunark, it's really felt like it was on maintenance, and even more so recently.

I'm with you, when Hartsman was in charge, there was plenty of useful communication from him about the direction the game was taking. Now this Fergusson guy just puts out marketing blabla without any useful content. Just look at his last interview on massively.com yesterday. I would love to get something like a Producer's Letter that gives an idea on what direction the game will be taking, not just the usual "we'll continue improving the game". Imho the focus on solo content with RoK was a move in the wrong direction, there is an obvious lack in interesting group content in the end game and the raid design shows some strange ideas about what is fun about raiding.

I'm playing eq2, it's still a very good game, but I ran out of content about 4 months ago. Basically I just log in to raid now, because the people I raid with have grown into a very strong and good community over the years (we didn't take a hit from AoC). I hope that some content shows up that can keep me occupied for more than a few days. Which probably will be the next expansion.

The living legacy stuff is something SOE had done before with Vanguard and Planetside - without this marketing fluff around it - to lure players back in, giving away 2 months of free gametime. Although they never tried it with Matrix Online - there were no people to invite back anyway i guess  :grin:


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: shiznitz on June 03, 2008, 10:41:31 AM
RoK solo content is fine. The problem is no viable alternative. The instances targeted 78-80 level characters.  Those instances can now be done by lower levels if there are a few well-equipped 80s in the group, but that wasn't the case initially. The only other group content was Karnor's which was much too hard for a PUG of low 70s, the exp was pathetic compared to solo questing and good drops were very rare.  KC is still the only zone where 71-75 Masters drop and still no one goes there. 

Then they added Shard of Hate where 2 groups of 80s can farm trash and get a shot at amazing loot. And now the new level 80 single group instance of Runnyeye is coming with an epixX2 as the final mob. There is still no solid mid-70s group content in Kunark, contested or instanced.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Lantyssa on June 03, 2008, 12:21:18 PM
I think I downloaded the wrong trial, I could only choose to be a fay, is there one that lets me play any class or am I stuck?
That's the Play the Fae trial, which isn't bad if you don't mind being a faerie.  To get the two months Legacy deal you need to log into an old EQ2 account.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Azazel on June 03, 2008, 01:01:15 PM
Patching EQ1 now. Estimated remaining time is about 9 and a half hours. With cable.

I don't think I'll do the whole thing in one hit.

Oh wait, 13 hours now.

erm. 18 hours.

hm. it just keeps climbing. It says 22 hours now. I'll just let it run for an hour or so, and if it's really this fucked up, I'll say goodbye to Norrath, without even going back.

Oh, this is with an existing install up to the one after GoD.

Yeah. 28 hours. Something seriously wrong with this picture.


It now seems to have stablised around the 24 hour mark. hrm.



Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Hawkbit on June 03, 2008, 01:28:46 PM
Yeah, EQ is taking awhile to dl.  I have to imagine there's quite a few people hammering their servers atm though.  I figure they've given us damn near 2 whole months, so if I blow a week in transfer I'm still good. 


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Tmon on June 03, 2008, 01:43:28 PM
I think I downloaded the wrong trial, I could only choose to be a fay, is there one that lets me play any class or am I stuck?
That's the Play the Fae trial, which isn't bad if you don't mind being a faerie.  To get the two months Legacy deal you need to log into an old EQ2 account.

I logged in a little bit ago and after some patching I suddenly could make anything I wanted.  Not sure why or how since there was nothing to explain it, but I'll dink around with it until the free time runs out however long it is.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Merusk on June 03, 2008, 02:59:29 PM
Patching EQ1 now. Estimated remaining time is about 9 and a half hours. With cable.

I don't think I'll do the whole thing in one hit.

Oh wait, 13 hours now.

erm. 18 hours.

hm. it just keeps climbing. It says 22 hours now. I'll just let it run for an hour or so, and if it's really this fucked up, I'll say goodbye to Norrath, without even going back.

Oh, this is with an existing install up to the one after GoD.

Yeah. 28 hours. Something seriously wrong with this picture.


It now seems to have stablised around the 24 hour mark. hrm.

Mentioned in previous EQ/ EQ2 threads is that the SOE patcher is crappy and glitchy.  It likes to stall out or corrupt itself or lord knows what after an hour or two of downloading.  Since it's good about restarting where it left-off, try rebooting your machine and seeing what it says after that.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Azazel on June 03, 2008, 07:25:53 PM
It settled back down to about 2 and a half hours just before I had to go to work, so I left it running. Should (in theory) be done when I get back.



Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: 5150 on June 04, 2008, 04:25:51 AM
It settled back down to about 2 and a half hours just before I had to go to work, so I left it running. Should (in theory) be done when I get back.



Unless you run out of disk space!

I installed EQ2 from original DVD's, patched during the day until the install size reached 6.9GB and ran me out of disk space and the installer is telling me in needs best part of another 3GB to complete.

I'm guessing its because its letting us have all the expansion content but it would have been nice to have had:
a. some warning to the final install size
b. an option not to install off of the content


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Tale on June 04, 2008, 05:01:36 AM
I think I downloaded the wrong trial, I could only choose to be a fay, is there one that lets me play any class or am I stuck?

You have to make a Fey the first time. Once you've made a Fey, you can then make and play anything else. Unfortunately you still have to put up with a world full of people playing Feys.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: UD_Delt on June 04, 2008, 05:14:16 AM
If anyone is interested in a leg up you can also join the Bazaar server. I'll outfit any Cloth or Leather armor wearers in full MasterCrafted if you like. I can do handcrafted for chain/plate wearers, unfortunately rare metals are still too expensive.

I'll also provide a couple hours of powerleveling if anyone is really interested in checking out higher parts of the game they maybe haven't seen before. For the sub-40s my two-box of Conjuror/Enchanter can grind you up pretty quick. Anyone higher will be a bit slower since I'll have to use my Bruiser/Warden combo.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Hawkbit on June 04, 2008, 06:32:56 AM
Sad me day...  I logged in and remembered:

I totally forgot that I let a necro chew me down to 50 or so and then deleted my toon... luckily I saved all my wr bags, 100,000p and some decent gear on a lvl 11. 

Do I really want to start over?  I killed him for a reason...  Not to mention 100,000p is probly chump change these days on Seventh Hammer. 


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: HaemishM on June 04, 2008, 12:21:17 PM
I hit 28 last night on my Assassin on Oasis. Bat Country the guild is totally dead on that server. I don't think I have the energy to start over on another server. We'll see how long I can play on this one.

Have the achievements changed? I had a whole bunch of racial traits that I'd never assigned that I don't remember being there last time I played.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: shiznitz on June 04, 2008, 12:26:20 PM
They improved the racials and reset everyone back in late 2007.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Phred on June 04, 2008, 01:11:45 PM
I  downloaded  EQ1 and tried it again after about 2 years away but unfortunately it was a rather solitary experience. Why? Because the server I spent 5 years on is gone, merged into another server where not one familiar face or guild name seems to have survived. Not much hook there to pull me back in, I'm afraid, so after I got bored wandering around the updated freeport and commonlands I logged back out, unlikely to log back in again.

I guess you really can't go back again. :)



Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Tmon on June 04, 2008, 01:58:40 PM
I think I'm over MMOGs or at least EQ/DAOC/WoW types.  I got a quest update that said kill spiders until <foozle> appears and then kill him.  I logged out and uninstalled because I couldn't bring myself to start down that road again.  I think that lately I get more pleasure reading about these games than I do playing them.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: stray on June 04, 2008, 02:47:04 PM
Right there with ya, man.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Polysorbate80 on June 04, 2008, 03:26:47 PM
Damn them; I managed to let four expansions go by since the last time I fed the EQ itch.  This time, with all the expansions opened up, I can't resist.  Fortunately they've given me just about enough free time to get tired of it again and then stop for another year or two.

I find it much the same.  Still not terribly soloable; the mobs haven't changed, I just sit for less time after killing a light blue con critter.  The AA changes take some of the sting out of that, though.  I easily got an AA killing those aforementioned light blues in Bastion of Thunder for a little while.  Only a few thousand more to go...

I do like the flag requirements removal; I'll have to go poke around into the planes I never got to see before the free ride ends.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Ratman_tf on June 04, 2008, 06:44:59 PM
So can you solo EQ now? I might go back just to dink around on a free ride and get some nostalgia screenshots of my DE character's ass...


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Slyfeind on June 04, 2008, 06:50:30 PM
Yeah, pretty much any character can solo to 70. It freaks me out.

And I JUST uninstalled EQ1. Like a week ago I think. Dammit!


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Ubvman on June 05, 2008, 12:11:33 AM
Yeah, pretty much any character can solo to 70. It freaks me out.

And I JUST uninstalled EQ1. Like a week ago I think. Dammit!

You mean EQ2 right?

I can't picture that happening with EQ1 Rogues and Warriors - the 100% melee classes. Not at anything above 60. Even EQ1 monks (acknowledged to be somewhat "soloable") have a hard time with raid gear soloing past 60. When the end game emphasis shifted to raiding around the PoP era, mobs started hitting for a few hundred HP a hit - meleeing soloing became impossible. Last time I checked - my monk could solo extremely light blue cons (has the color code changed?) at the rate of 10000 mobs per bubble of exp - impossibly slow rate.

Soloing is very much possible - certain classes only and the key is to not let the mob touch you. Kiting, Fear Kiting, AE song kiting (before it was majorly nerfed).

If that has changed and EVERY CLASSS can solo (at a decent rate) to 70, I need to look at it. Is this happening with the new race areas in TSS?



Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Tale on June 05, 2008, 04:38:53 AM
You mean EQ2 right?

His first line was about EQ2. The second line was about EQ1. The rest of the thread is the confusing part. Everyone is responding to each other's comments thinking it's about the other game :)


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: UD_Delt on June 05, 2008, 04:59:13 AM
I hit 28 last night on my Assassin on Oasis. Bat Country the guild is totally dead on that server. I don't think I have the energy to start over on another server. We'll see how long I can play on this one.

Have the achievements changed? I had a whole bunch of racial traits that I'd never assigned that I don't remember being there last time I played.

Racials have changed as already mentioned. The character traits (master 2 choices, resists, etc.) are mostly the same but have been reset.

Depending on how long ago you last played achievements have also changed a few times. They are now available at level 10 (not 20), can be earned much faster than at the release of the system and as of the last patch are now also earned by completing gray quests.


Also, level 28 should take all of about 3-4 hours to get back up to if you start over... If you haven't started a char in Tim. Deep yet I would suggest that. A few hours of decent solo quest running will have you at level 20, 15+ AA's and some decent gear.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: 5150 on June 05, 2008, 05:04:25 AM
It settled back down to about 2 and a half hours just before I had to go to work, so I left it running. Should (in theory) be done when I get back.



Unless you run out of disk space!

I installed EQ2 from original DVD's, patched during the day until the install size reached 6.9GB and ran me out of disk space and the installer is telling me in needs best part of another 3GB to complete.

I'm guessing its because its letting us have all the expansion content but it would have been nice to have had:
a. some warning to the final install size
b. an option not to install off of the content

Total install size turned out to be ~9GB

Would have been useful to know that at the start SOE...........

Got logged in last night to discover that loads of spell-type stuff has been changed (not that it really matters since I don't remember what it used to be like, only that its different now)


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Sky on June 05, 2008, 05:13:22 AM
I hit 28 last night on my Assassin on Oasis. Bat Country the guild is totally dead on that server.
I think we had four active players last winter!

Summer is the Dead Times.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Ratman_tf on June 05, 2008, 10:41:44 AM
You mean EQ2 right?

His first line was about EQ2. The second line was about EQ1. The rest of the thread is the confusing part. Everyone is responding to each other's comments thinking it's about the other game :)

He must be talking about EQ1, because Sly hasn't (as far as I know, and we're roomies) even played EQ2.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: d4rkj3di on June 05, 2008, 03:37:46 PM
Cool, I created my EQ2 account on Nov 13, 2004 and quit 18 days later after getting killed by the forge too many times. Looks like I just got 4 years worth of Vet Rewards for free! :awesome_for_real:

Odd side note, I still have around 15 Pre-order codes for the nifty J-boots. If any of you that are going to play or are still playing want one, shoot me a PM.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Slyfeind on June 06, 2008, 06:08:18 AM
dooble post!


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Slyfeind on June 06, 2008, 06:09:36 AM
Yeah, pretty much any character can solo to 70. It freaks me out.

And I JUST uninstalled EQ1. Like a week ago I think. Dammit!

You mean EQ2 right?

I mean EQ1. Rogues might have a hard time, and take freaking forever, but it's reportedly doable. I can't imagine it either, that's why I said it freaks me out.  :uhrr:



Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Sky on June 06, 2008, 06:38:35 AM
I still have around 15 Pre-order codes for the nifty J-boots.
Is it the lack of stats that make them nifty? The pre-order jboots sucked.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Lantyssa on June 06, 2008, 08:30:53 AM
Odd side note, I still have around 15 Pre-order codes for the nifty J-boots. If any of you that are going to play or are still playing want one, shoot me a PM.
What do they look like?  I need to know if they'll clash with my outfits.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: HaemishM on June 06, 2008, 08:44:39 AM
Wasn't there a thing in EQ2 that let you change the look of an existing piece of gear without changing the stats? My patchwork clown of an assassin has some great looking custom-fitted armor from a quest, but the stats aren't as good as stuff I've gotten from the broker.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Numtini on June 06, 2008, 09:41:32 AM
Wasn't there a thing in EQ2 that let you change the look of an existing piece of gear without changing the stats? My patchwork clown of an assassin has some great looking custom-fitted armor from a quest, but the stats aren't as good as stuff I've gotten from the broker.

In Profit UI (which everyone should use btw) it's a button on your normal inventory that opens up the second set of slots. I don't know where it is on the default. Anything there overwrites appearance. It's a fantastic idea that every game should be picking up. I can't remember who did it first, I know it's in EQ2 and LOTRO.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Murgos on June 06, 2008, 09:47:03 AM
There is a tab on the paper doll screen for visual only items.  You can put anything you want in those slots and its appearance supersedes whatever you're wearing for armor.

Edit: Also shift-click will let you 'try-on' items before you buy them from the AH or vendor.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: HaemishM on June 06, 2008, 11:03:37 AM
Found it. That kicks major ass.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Lantyssa on June 06, 2008, 11:54:27 AM
Yes it does.  All games need to give this option.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on June 06, 2008, 11:55:32 AM
Yes it does.  All games need to give this option.

LOTRO does it.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: HaemishM on June 06, 2008, 11:58:29 AM
It's pretty much a must-have MMO feature, IMO. There is no reason to have to look like Granny's fucking bedspread just so your stats won't suffer.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on June 06, 2008, 12:10:45 PM
It's pretty much a must-have MMO feature, IMO. There is no reason to have to look like Granny's fucking bedspread just so your stats won't suffer.

I can think of one. If a game has any sort of real PvP in it, its somewhat of a must to be able to size up your opponent by looks/gear. The only two games that i know of that have this option, do not have anything in the way of a PvP orientation.

In PvP it would be very bad if you foe had a broom in his hand, thats really a level 100+ sword of armor soiling +5.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: schild on June 06, 2008, 12:15:21 PM
I'd prefer to look like a scrub in PVP.

Sleeper, man.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Lantyssa on June 06, 2008, 12:23:31 PM
1) I hate PvP.
2) It might have some interesting effects on behavior if it was allowed.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Sky on June 06, 2008, 12:42:44 PM
I can think of one. If a game has any sort of real PvP in it, its somewhat of a must to be able to size up your opponent by looks/gear. The only two games that i know of that have this option, do not have anything in the way of a PvP orientation.

In PvP it would be very bad if you foe had a broom in his hand, thats really a level 100+ sword of armor soiling +5.
1. Your example is a bit off, EQ2 only allows visible armor and cloak slots on the appearance tab. No weapons/shields/ranged.

2. UO. Expect the worst, but makes for effective bluffing, too.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Merusk on June 06, 2008, 01:39:35 PM
In PvP it would be very bad if you foe had a broom in his hand, thats really a level 100+ sword of armor soiling +5.
2. UO. Expect the worst, but makes for effective bluffing, too.
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People in UO acutally used brooms to kick ass anyway, didn't they?  I seem to recall SOMEONE around here having an anecdote like that.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Nija on June 06, 2008, 02:16:36 PM
Fishing poles. Rasix knows.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Hound on June 06, 2008, 02:48:29 PM
I always enjoyed EQII, am fairly bored with LoTRO until the expansion at least and AoC just felt like Oblivion with a chatroom to me.  2 free months for letting it DL while I slept and went to work, can't beat that deal.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Azazel on June 06, 2008, 05:30:37 PM
Finished patching EQ1, got on this morning.

I'm both overwhelmed and underwhelmed. The Temporal Chrysalis free item thing they were going on about faced me north and disappeared when I clicked it.

Yeah, I'm not sure if I'll even get the enthusiasm to show my wife around the places where I used to waste my time..



Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Hawkbit on June 06, 2008, 05:39:35 PM
As I expected, I just can't get into EQ1 anymore.  Part of it is not having my high lvl toons anymore, but mostly I think I'm spoiled by features that were implemented in other, newer morgs.  Having access to only 8 spells?  Couldn't do it in GW either.  I had to lol at the animations, compared to WoW - That's one thing that Bilzzard has really done a great job at. 

On the other hand, I'm bored with all the other games out so I'm giving EQ2 a solid shot.  I simply never had the time to dedicate to it before, but they'll likely get my money till WAR or the WoW xpac (of which I'll burn through in 2 months and go back). 


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Simond on June 08, 2008, 03:14:32 AM
I'm both overwhelmed and underwhelmed. The Temporal Chrysalis free item thing they were going on about faced me north and disappeared when I clicked it.
Because the expansion it's supposed to be for hasn't even been officially announced yet, let alone set live?  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Kitsune on June 08, 2008, 07:47:36 PM
I downloaded the raft of patches, logged in, and am completely fucking lost.  In EverQuest it's simply a matter of having been so many years that I have no clue how any of my gear or spells worked together, but EQ2 went and changed all of my spells and the tradeskill system, so that completely yanked the rug out from under me; what little chance I had to get my bearings was annihilated by that.  Worse, I haven't yet found any good resources to correct the problem; the old conjurer site that I went to has a spell list that hasn't been updated in a couple of years.  Restarting from scratch would likely be the better option, but after going through the living hell of betraying a Teir'Dal to Qeynos, I'm not about to go and ditch the character.

And while I'm on the subject of dark elves, does anyone know if it's possible to move into Neriak without giving up being a conjurer?  I'm very attached to Neriak, but I've always been more of a mage than a necromancer and'm not looking to give up my class to make the move.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Rendakor on June 08, 2008, 11:30:13 PM
Kitsune, check out eq2.wikia.com for class information; they're fairly thorough. Dont believe its possible to live in Neriak without betraying though.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Gorky on June 09, 2008, 12:30:17 AM
Could anyone give me the total size of the EQ2 directory? I'm up to 6.5Gb and rising, the patcher counted down to 0 once and then again jumped up, probably downloading each expansion seperately.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: schild on June 09, 2008, 02:48:49 AM
Mine is 8GB. I imagine they're up to 9 by now.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Numtini on June 09, 2008, 03:25:00 AM
Mine's 11.5 with station launcher and all the optional downloads (voiceovers etc.)


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Xerapis on June 09, 2008, 05:24:08 AM
Well, that was brief.

I was feeling good about firing up EQ2 again.  They've added new stuff, I liked the detail of their crafting...

But for some reason, the game kept crashing on load-in.  Then, today, IT WORKED.

I rolled up a cute little half-elf necro and started up in TD.  I was welcomed and told to go kill 4 things in order to get a new pair of sleeves.  I killed the things, returned, got my sleeves, the game crashed with no error message.

And that's when I thought.  Seriously.  Kill 4 poachers to get a new pair of sleeves.  Seriously?  That's not new.  And it's not content.  And at least WOW doesn't crash and me and make my video card sound like a Yugo going uphill.

Anyway, that's it for me.  Maybe I'll try again next time.  But damn that install took too long.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: shiznitz on June 09, 2008, 06:56:52 AM
There is a tab on the paper doll screen for visual only items.  You can put anything you want in those slots

Not quite. Appearance slot items still have to be equippable by your class. Casters cannot wear armor, for example, but plate tanks can wear some robes.  I have my berserker in a mix of plate and leather.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: HaemishM on June 09, 2008, 11:47:41 AM
It's pretty much a must-have MMO feature, IMO. There is no reason to have to look like Granny's fucking bedspread just so your stats won't suffer.

I can think of one. If a game has any sort of real PvP in it, its somewhat of a must to be able to size up your opponent by looks/gear. The only two games that i know of that have this option, do not have anything in the way of a PvP orientation.

In PvP it would be very bad if you foe had a broom in his hand, thats really a level 100+ sword of armor soiling +5.

Actually, for PVP, it makes good sense as well. Less textures to load means better performance, and PVP is all about performance. Plus, if you can't figure out who is what a few seconds into the fight, you suck and will die horribly anyway. And really, 90% of all people in PVP suck horribly and will die soon no matter what they look like.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: Azazel on June 09, 2008, 10:50:20 PM
I'm both overwhelmed and underwhelmed. The Temporal Chrysalis free item thing they were going on about faced me north and disappeared when I clicked it.
Because the expansion it's supposed to be for hasn't even been officially announced yet, let alone set live?  :awesome_for_real:

Well that makes perfect sense to hand them out now, and to people who havent played in months or years. Don't release it till it's ready? Don't make a fucking fuss about it until it's relevent?

I guess it's my own fault. I should have known.  :oh_i_see:



Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: El Gallo on June 10, 2008, 05:19:53 AM
I hadn't played EQ2 since the first couple months after release. Much better game now, at least as a lowbie. Made a Sarnak which looked cool, but could not stand the running animation. So I made my first mangina. And not just a mangina, but a fairy mangina. This will entertain me for a couple weeks.

When does my (evil fairy lady) necromancer's pet stop looking like a bird and start looking like something undead? Is this a vestige of that shitmonkey archetype system they started with?

PS: add "mangina" to spellcheck prz.


Title: Re: EQ2 for Free! (for a while)
Post by: tazelbain on June 10, 2008, 07:01:00 AM
The bat is a crappy pet at that level you can tank in cloth armor, so it not a big deal.  The spider at 12 is you first real tank pet.  But he's not really "undead".  At 20, you get the first undead pet and first warlock pet.