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between the ages of 18 and 35 that doesn't enjoy South Park?

I don't see the attraction it reminds me of the juvenile humor I enjoyed in middle school. Maybe it has some deeper philosophy behind it, but I miss it because they seem to intent on offending as part of their humor.

Maybe I'm just getting old.

No. Southpark stopped being funny around my Junior year of high school (17). I've seen ONE (count them), 1, funny episode since then. I mean funny like I was 12 years old again. It was the episode where they all bought ninja weapons and butters got a shruiken stuck in his eye because you know, 'it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye,' and they dressed him up as a dog because everyone will help a dog and he's wandering around town while the other guys are getting into "fights" with retarded kids. Anyway, that episode was funny. Oh, and the song was fucking hilarious.

Let's fighting love!

Thank god. I thought I was "out of touch" or old or something

the one with the ninjas was the first one in the latest series which just started here in Aus.  I couldnt stop laughing when Cartman was using his invisible power to walk sideways across the stage in front of 100 people.

Anyway generally I think its one of the funniest cartoons ever but like pretty much everything it's not as good as it was at the start.

Never could sit through an episode longer than 10 minutes, and when I finally did, it was the one that turned me off completely (the whole episode was about some Gerbil trapped in a dude's ass)....Not because I'm a prude or because I'm shocked, it's because Parker and Stone have absolutely nothing to say. If I want to be shocked, I'll watch Tetsuo or Richard Kern.

Actually, I noticed one of the poster's here (forget which) has that same gerbil as their avatar.

TV Series generally don't hit their stride until mid way through.

Examples:
Seinfeld peaked at seasons 4-7.

Highlander became arguably one of the best shows 'evar' from season 4 to halfway through season 5. It was just a sci-fi show, then it became something much much more. Fanbois would argue the whole show was amazing, I look at the show as background leading up to those 35 or so episodes (out of about, I don't know, 150 or so.

Married With Children became art once Bud got pubes and ms. applegate got boobs. Funny how that works. ST:TNG really came into it's own after season 3.

Friends (ya, that show..) became Very good between seasons 4-6.

Smallville probably would have peaked this year if Christopher Reeves hadn't passed away.

Gilmore Girls jumped the shark last season (season 4). It was rather apparent when the producers fell back on "the relationship" everyone wanted to see since season 1.

X-Files took 4 seasons to grow into itself - even though I really like the horror-heavy seasons 2 and 3 (Tooms, Obsession, Darkness Falls, etc).

Alias is going to peak this coming season. It's why they're holding out. I refuse to believe Lost set back their production at all considering 13 of the alias episodes were in the bag in August.

24 peaked 12 hours into the first season. Stupid gimmick. THat is however, arguably halfway through the entire series.

As for southpark, once they reached a huge fanbase, they stopped being fringe/niche edgy and became "mainstream edgy." That's not to say they sold out. But a giant flying vagina and the ninja thing never would have happened between seasons 1-3. Shows like that Need to be better the first few seasons to make it. Pity Fox didn't realize the goldmine they had with Family Guy. (Nor did ABC realize what they had with Veritas, and look what it's turned into now - a Nick Cage movie called National Treasure; tickets go on sale Nov. 18th!).

I could go on. You really have to have an incredible installed viewer base to succeed on TV today...or you have to be a reality show. And fuck that noise. I'll never support that crap. Ever. For the record, Monster House is not reality tv.

You know, the only TV shows I've really watched since ST:TNG went off the air are:

MacGyver
Friends
Buffy TVS

I'm not sure what that says about me.

I for one think Stargate's pretty good still, though we're a year behind you. It seems to have kept it's sense of humor at any rate, something the various ST shows lost a long time ago (ST has no sense of humor, it's part of the Federation cultuer).

Damn, you watch too much tv.

I still really enjoy Southpark.  There is almost always more to it then just shocking humor.  The only real fault I find with their show is that they stopped having as many sub-plots in each episode.

My favorite episode:  Red Hot Catholic Love (Season 6, Episode 8)

Watch it if you have not seen it.  Watch it again if it has been a while.  The whole shit coming out of people's mouths is one of the many great themes running through the episode.

Naw. I see most of it in archival form. I'll find a couple days and blow through 24 esisodes in that many hours. That's why I can remember seasions.

You probably need to watch a few more episodes of South Park to judge.  The last really awesome episode was the ninja episode.  New episodes are beginning shortly.

Bruce

I don't think he's into S&M. If you were talking to me - no, I don't need to watch more episodes of southpark to judge.

Screw you all. Bevis and Butthead on DVD RULES!

I stopped watching Monster House when the producers (I think) started bringing "ringers" on to the build teams to generally fuck things up for everyone else. Prior to that, the teams usually got along decently and were able to get the job done quickly. Now, or at least in the last several episodes I could actually watch, there is always some jackhole on the team who's not only incompetent and can't do his job, but who brings all kinds of false, unnecessary drama to the show.

Pisses me off to the point of not watching it any more.

I still enjoy Southpark, when I catch it.  For some reason, I've never been able to fully commit myself to tv shows.  Even with Tivo or DVR, I rarely remember to set the timer.  The only 'show' I've consistantly watched or taped over the years, is Formula 1 Grand Prix events.  Strangely, I've caught every episode, so far, of that new show Captain Kirk is in, and I've found it somewhat amusing.  We should start setting the DVR for shows we enjoy more often.  Evidently, you can do it from the computer.

X-Files was good until they started f'ing up with all the conspiracy episodes and plot lines. The once off wierd shit episodes were always the best.
I thought Alias started screwing up when they went away from 'Jennifer Garner dresses up really silly and kills some guys' to the wierd ongoing davinci plot stuff, her mother etc...but actually I found myself watching the end of the 2nd season and can't wait for the 3rd. This may do with the fact Im in love with Jennifer Garner though.
Haven't watched Southpark since 1999, Mr Hanky was always the best episode...oh and 'duck and cover'.

It's a hit and miss thing - there are good episodes and bad ones.

Season 2 was much better than any of the others though. imo.

Might give Andromeda a try if you are disappointed in ST. It seems to capture the original Star Trek to a campy degree.

This is the correct answer.  Sadly, the DVDs don't have the videos B&B watch and comment on, at least any that I have seen :/

There's one disc of four episodes where they include the music videos; to my knowledge none of the rest have them.

Of course, I could be missing some, despite the fact that even though the salesguy swore that the collection included all the episodes, there's a lot I can think of that aren't there (and probably more I'm forgetting that aren't there either).

It's a shame, because some of their funniest shit was in the commentary during the videos.  Still worth the money, though.

"Fire those retrorockets, shoot the fruiton torpedoes, and, uh, make us go *that* way"

I think SP is hit and miss.  Sometimes they'll hit a cord, and one thread they're hitting on is really funny.  Othertimes it just misses the mark in my oppinion, and I'm just "eh".  Normally I like humor when it pokes fun at RL; the ninja episode was a riot.  The "this is what necrophelia sounds like" wasn't.  The gerbil wasn't.  The veal episode was.  The "crap out your mouth" episode was.

As for Stargate, I'm starting to like it.  Couple years ago I caught it, marked it as crap, and avoided it.  What I didn't like, and still don't, is Richard Anderson.  I like that they're attempting to interject humor into SF stuff, but his character often does it in a way that voids any suspension of disbelief.  It's like he should be sitting on the front row at Mystery Science Theatre, not in the picture itself.  I think they did a better job at humor in Atlantis, and I'm really enjoying that series.

That you are a woman.

I liek South Park. What I like about it is that it isn't overtly political, but you can certainly read things into it. But it doesn't take itself too seriously. There is nothing worse than poorly made reality plays.

Edit: The Catholic episode was hilarious.

If you haven't seen Firefly, see it right god-damn now. I'm not kidding.

Get out of your seat. Walk to the elevator, take it to the ground floor, walk to your car, get in, start it, drive to Best Buy/Media Play/Wherever You Buy DVDs, get out of your car (leave it running), go inside, buy the Firefly 4 DVD set, go back to your car, get in (if it's not stolen), drive home, park (turn off your car), go inside, commence watching Firefly until you have completed all 4 DVDs.

Or, alternatively, get it on Netflix (http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=60033036&trkid=73).

Seriously, this show kicks ass. Another show where FOX didn't know what they had before they canned it. Those bastards.

Thank you for speaking truth to power.  My wife can't let the show go, but she gets a sad look in her eye after every episode.  You can tell the magic is gone.  Also, Lorelei is the most irritating, self-centered protagonist in history.

The basic lifecycle of every show is that there's a bunch of interesting characters thrown together at the beginning, a few new bit-characters get thrown into the mix who rarely, if ever, manage to integrate themselves fully, all of the characters interact with each other in every possible way, and then it gets tired.  Probably because once the show gets popular they want to play it safe and make all changes incremental rather than revolutionary.  Some shows get over this hump without being revolutionary and settle into a kind of steady hum.  Like The Simpsons, or  MASH.  Most shows really need a revolution to kickstart the creativity, though.

Par exemple, South Park should completely ditch the town of South Park, move the kids to the Virgin Islands, kill off Cartman, and replace him with Robin Williams.

Firefly was canceled because it was too slow and you know what, they were right. They were right about Harsh Realm too. Stop pimping a show that never made it through the first development arc (and couldn't in 9 episodes).

I love South Park. Great poopy humor and some social commentary.

Then again, my favorite show is the Daily Show, which has great social commentary with some poopy humor.

lol.  poop.

I think that sums up where my interests lie.

I liked the first few seasons. I don't know if that was due to my frame of mind at the time or because the shows were actually better.

Oh, but you did.

Most of the stuff on comedy network is unashamedly naughty in it's attempt to get a cheap laugh.  South Park is their flagship show that reflects this.

They've got some clever humor, but it's heavily mired in the shock humor that makes up most of their jokes.

Me - I mostly watch Adult Swim.  Venture Brothers is pretty damn good, but they've also got Futurama, Family Guy, Harvey Birdman Attorney At Law, and Aqua-Team Hunger Force.  There's a few good Cartoon Network shows  as well, such as MegasXLR.

I really dislike that comedy central picked up MadTV for replays during primetime on the network. It's like they are reverting back to when they first got started and only played standup and old SNL. If they are going to do that I want to see MST3K make a resurgence.

I preferred the SNL reruns to the MadTV reruns. At least they had almost 30 years of seasons to cherry-pick from.   I used to find Mad TV entertaining, but now I want to kill every fucking one of the cast members slowly.

For your MST3k fix, pick-up some of the DVDs out now.  I grabbed the "Mannos/ Santa Claus Conquers Mars" set.  Oh dear god I'd forgotten how very very bad those movies were.

Reno 911 is gold.

Well okay, Reno 911 and The Daily Show are good.   Granted, Reno 911 does have a sort of Comedy Network-esque appreciation of lowbrow shock humor at times.   "Blue Collar TV" is a comedy network original for a reason.

The Daily Show. Yeah. I forgot that in my list of shows I enjoy. Also Stargate. My problem is, that I might enjoy some shows but I rarely actually watch them. I'm usually on my computer or watching DvDs or premium channels on cable.

If you get MTV2 they show full episodes (with vids) of Beavis & Butthead fairtly regularly.

I don't find South Park particularly funny (if at all). Of coarse I don't care for the Simpsons either so go figure. Or Seinfeld. Or Friends. Or any sitcom for that matter.

Rarely will I watch anything fictional that is set in current times (between say ~1990 and 2005).

I bet you're a hit at parties. [Ed McMahon] Hiyo! [/EdMcMahon]

I can't believe no-one has mentioned Space Ghost Coast-to-Coast. Though not every episode is hilarious, there is some really amazing stuff in there. A good deal of it requires an appreciation for abstract and/or esoteric humor, but I think it's definitely one of the funniest TV cartoons ever.

Probably the funniest show on TV right now. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000270RCW/102-6845277-5279337?v=glance) Unfortunatly I'm not sure any stations in the states play it uncensored. BBC 1 might but I'm not positive.

For me, most recently it's been Monk, Malcolm in the Middle, and Arrested Developement for teh funnaes, as well as some previously mentioned stuff like Aqua Teen.

Yeah, it is funny. I don't think it's the funniest, but I've only caught a few episodes. BBC America airs it.

Ali G, I think, is the funniest thing around right now. Kinda dwindling though..A lot of people (potential interviewees) are catching on to the act. Didn't he move out of the UK because of that very reason?

Besides that, I watch more TV at other people's houses than my own. Which isn't much either. Heh, I'm like, just discovering Futurama.

Arrested Development is pretty damn funny and MoM has always been.

I'm sure.  :P

Last night's episode was pretty good. The PETA stuff was a bit weird/lame (not the fact of making fun of those idiots, just the way they did it), but voting being between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich was pretty classic, especially after the recent controversy they had about saying people shoulnd't vote.

I really like South Park, always have.  There's really a soft spot in my heart for dick & fart jokes combined with social commentary.  Sure, the show isn't as good as it once was  but you get about 3 gems per season out of them with a couple of plain duds thrown in.   The first five episodes this last season were pretty damn good, which were followed up by the less than stellar Goobacks and Mr. Jefferson (EP 5 was OK, funny yet weak).

This last episode was pretty decent. The PETA stuff was kind of weak though.  It really steemed out of place and threw of the pacing of the entire episode.  



Yah, the time slot of death, showing the episodes out of order, and interuptions mid season due to sporting events didn't help either. They just didn't give that show a fucking chance.  They did that too with Wonderfalls which pissed me off too.   I think the slow developing interpersonal relationships would have been a good thing if the show had been allowed to go more than 13 EPs.  No use having your big payoffs early.  

Fox just does that shit too.  Everytime I hear of a good show coming to Fox I just cringe because the damn thing is doomed.  Arrested Development has survived but that's one of the few original shows that has made it on the channel.  Why they picked up crap like "Tru Calling" I'll never know.  That show just plain sucks.

On a similar vein, I'm watching downloaded episodes of Farscape (sorry, not going to pay $100 for their dvds, ROBBERY) at the moment. It's pretty decent about 15 episodes into the first season.  The writing and the humor is pretty suspect at times along with the protagonist being probably the most poorly written and acted.  Still, good show, look forward to seeing how all of the story lines progress.

Don't watch a whole lot on TV nowadays. My lineup is pretty much limited to:

Lost
South Park
Football/Tennis
CSI (the original)
Aqua Teens
Deadwood, Sopranos, Entorage (this show kinda sucks though), Six Feet Under

I think I might watch 24 this year to see if the show can get even worse.  Season 3 was one of the worst things that has ever graced public television. It's just getting hard to find stuff for me to watch, I'ved burned out on Law and Order and it's derivatives and I won't watch the beautiful people CSI spinoffs.  

It hasn't helped that a lot of my staples got cancelled or ended their runs in recent years.  But honestly, I like having less stuff on TV that I enjoy watching.  It makes putting off buying a TIVO that much easier.

If you aren't watching The Wire, you are really missing out. It is an incredibly dense show and hard to get into, but it is one of the coolest out there. Go find season 1 & 2 on DVD and then try to catch up on it this season. If you were a fan of Homocide: Life on the Streets, you will like this show even better.

I enjoy South Park when I see it, but I don't go out of my way to watch it too often. Thanks to the wonders of TiVo, my TV watching is pretty easy to list (these are staples on my Season Pass list)-

Jeopardy
Win Ben Stein's Money (too funny)
Lost
Rescue Me
Scrubs
Joey (empty, but mildly amusing)
Coupling (have first 3 seasons on DVD)
The Office
The Daily Show
Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn
Various Poker shows (WSOP, CPS, WPT, PSI, etc)
Joan of Arcadia (my wife got me into this one)
Inside the NFL

Sports I tend to watch live, rather than DVR'ed- NFL mostly at this part of the year. I also watch a lot of History Channel, Discovery Channel, National Geographic Channel, etc either by catching them live, watching them On Demand (which rules), or happening to catch an upcoming show and setting the TiVo.

Gee WAP some of those shows put you into the woman catagory yerself :P

Heh- that is what happens when TV time and quality time with my wife collide. Our schedules are so screwed up that we usually end up watching TV in bed from 10 PM to midnight together after she gets home from work. The good news is I have time to either watch the shows she doesn't like or spend time on my PC or Xbox while she is working =)

Heh, after carefully reviewing my girlfriend's movie choices, I have subsequently informed her that Law 1 is that we always have two working tv's and two dvd players at all times.  Sweet November my candy ass.

Hmm.. current tv watchings:

Lost
Survivor
CSI
Law & Order
Jeopardy
South Park
Family Guy
Hockey
Football
Poker




WWE

Hah, I used to watch.  Then I realized I just watched to bitch about it.  It got bad, really bad. Too many out of shape, old hasbeens and shitty writing dominating the product.  

Ohh well, it made for good Monday nights in college.

What is wwe?  I googled it and all I got was wrestling.

Used to be WWF.  You know, Andre The Giant, Hulk Hogan, and other large sweaty men punching, grabbing, and tossing each other.

Yeah, Venture Brother's is great.  "The Trial of The Monarch" had me laughing out loud for almost the entire episode.  Oh and the one before that, where Dr. Venture played D&D with Baron Underbheit  and their buddies in college, was hilarious too.

Are the seasons with Joel out on DVD?  My memories of those being the best might be flavored by the fact that they stopped showing them in the reruns.

Some of them with Joel are out; I know 'Mitchell' and 'Pod People' are available (or were the last time I looked). I was always more of a Joel fan myself.

I'll second the seconding of Venture Brothers.  I'm not a big TV person, but if I miss a Venture Bros. episode I'll be like "Well, damn"  I personally liked the episode where they had Race Bannon and the Fantastic Four parody.

They're not doing "seasons" for various reasons. The guy who did Tom's voice was on the local radio a month or so back and explained that they'd lost some release forms for some of the movies, or the release form didn't carry-over to DVD and the producers refused to sign after seeing the treatment their films got.  

Joel was definatly much better than Mike.  Mike tried too damn hard, IMO.  The Mannos/ Santa DVD is all Joel, and apparently two of the most requested episodes since the movies were so horrible.

 Mannos, for example, has a 10-minute-long sequence (that might be exaggerating it, but I'll check.) at the beginning showing nothing but landscape passing by to signify the car traveling along.  Nothing happens but some really bad 60s e-z listening music playing in the background while it fades to different trees/ fields passing by.  This starts the running gag of Tom talking like an e-z listening DJ, "You're listening to "Mannos, the Hands of Fate." every minute or so.

I had the Saturday morning Comedy Central MST3K's TiVo'd for a while, but it was incredibly frustrating.  They had maybe 6 episodes that they looped over and over again (Something about a devilfish, something about giant worms, something about some denomic kid), and maybe one new one every few months.  Very sad.

If you ever get a chance, watch the Italian barbarian movies.  Particularly one called 'Island of the ' something or other.  Brutally funny.

MST3K fans: you can get most of the episodes not released on DVD/VHS here (if you don't mind using edonkey to get them):

DAP Central (http://www.dapcentral.org)

Yes, they are legal. As they say, keep circulating the tapes.

My TiVo Season Pass Manager contains:

Star Trek: Enterprise
Boston Legal
The West Wing
ER
Monday Night Football
Justice League Unlimited
Teen Titans
South Park
Uncommon Knowledge (PBS)
McLaughlin Group (PBS)
Pardon the Interruption (ESPN)
The Simpsons
Penn & Teller: Bullshit
The Sopranos
Dead Like Me
Father of the Pride
Drawn Together

... and a couple of other things.

Bruce

Same here.  I literally watch no TV at home, except that show.  I keep the TV around for movies on pay channels.  My roommate turned me on to the Venture Bros and I've been watching ever since.  I'll sneak in some Sealab too every so often, because it's funny at times.

They were sued by the World Wildlife Fund for using their initials.  And lost.

So much for the theory that money = automatic win in court.

Sad pandas for the win.

And now we're back to South Park.  Thread victory!

Trey (I) Parker  and Matt (I) Stone were in Terror Firmer (1999)  with Theo Kogan. Theo Kogan was in In the Cut (2003) with Kevin Bacon

Kevin Bacon was in Sleepers (1996) with
Brad Pitt who was in Interview with the Vampire (1994) with
Antonio Bandaras who was in Spy Kids 3-D (2003) with
Sylvester Stallone who was in Rocky III (1982) with
Hulk Hogan

And now we're back to wrestleing.

Hulk Hogan was in Muppets from Space with F. Murray Abraham in 1999.
F. Murray Abraham was in Loaded Weapon I with Christopher Lambert in 1993.
Christopher Lambert was in The Hunted with Yoshio Harada in 1995.

Now we're back to ninjas. Everything comes back to ninjas.

Ninjas were in The Last Samurai, which starred Tom Cruise, whom starred in A Few Good Men, and now we are clearly back to tasty Bacon.

Bacon was in JFK with Gary Oldman
Oldman was in Dracula with Winona Ryder
Ryder was in Edward Scissorhands with Johnny Depp (and banged him for a while IIRC)
Depp played the great Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Carribean.

As always, pirates > ninjas.

Bacon was in Few Good Men with Demi Moore
Demi Moore was in charlies Angels II with Drew Barrymore
Johnny Damon appears in Barrymores film 'Fever Pitch'

Therefore you're all idiots.

I dont' think South Park works on any other level than that. I enjoy it, but I also don't follow it religiously anymore.

EDIT: And I will have to throw in my two cents.

Venture Bros. kicks fucking ass. Dr. Orpheus is a scream, especially on this last episode when the two rednecks were calling him "Faggot."

I think most shows need about half a season to a full season to get on track. Babylon 5 didn't really hit it's stride until a few episodes into Season 2, even though Season 1 did have some good episodes. But it is obvious on looking back at that season in hindsight that there was a lot going on that looked like just random things.

Firefly was a damn good show in a REALLY SHITTY time slot. But Fox has done this with all Sci-Fi shows since X-Files moved to Sunday. They thought people were watching X-Files because it was Friday night and they were sad no-life geeks. No, they were watching X-Files. They tried to shoehorn Millenium, Harsh Realm, Firefly, John Doe, the Stranger and who remembers what other kinds of stuff they put there. Hell, that one show, about the 19-year old cop (which was pretty decent) had ONE FUCKING EPISODE before they yanked it. Fox execs need food poisoning.