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Title: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Xanthippe on May 22, 2008, 10:20:02 AM
Now that you've been playing a few days (maybe I should have waited longer), why should I or shouldn't I buy this?

(I assume it will work on my month old computer.)

I can't be bothered to log into WoW these days - totally bored with that.  City of Heroes seems perfect for me, but I'm not doing a whole lot there - it's so casual friendly though, I love that part of it.

So - should I or shouldn't I?

And what's the M rating thing for, is there stuff my 9 and 12year olds shouldn't see?


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Brogarn on May 22, 2008, 10:25:22 AM
For me, so far, it's combat pure and simple. The graphics are pretty, the quests are familiar, etc. But the combat is pretty fun for me.

As far as the M rating goes, I'm guessing it's for the nipples and blood.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 10:27:02 AM
Actually, they did a pretty good job with the quests (making them mature, that is). First mmo I've ever read more than 50% of the quest text. Sure, some I blow through, but i was playing to crush!


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Signe on May 22, 2008, 10:29:22 AM
The combat is nice and we have quite a few f13ers (and their alts) in Bat Country.  Schild and some others can tell you more about the crafting, I'm so slow I'm not there yet.  I've enjoyed the quests.  The game feels very linear to me, however, but that might just be my early level.  And, yeah, M for nipples and hacking off limbs.  The odd blood splatter on your screen that I don't much like.  Some of the body tats wipe out nipples. 


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 10:30:46 AM
The crafting is time consuming, but not really. My biggest issue, since I can already survive in Purple Lotus pretty easily and gather really, really quickly since all those waypoints are on my ingame map, is getting the fucking paper and ink to make the blueprints. I could probably have a mess of buildings up this weekend, or at least the walls, if I had the damn blueprint items. I've searched fucking everywhere :( :( :(


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Montague on May 22, 2008, 10:48:03 AM
You should buy it because:

The client is stable, and the servers have been smooth though they have had a lot of downtime early on.

The combat system is fun. More involved than WoW but not overly complicated.

The gameworld is gorgeous.

The Tortage quest area gameplay alone is worth the $50.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: tazelbain on May 22, 2008, 10:48:53 AM
> City of Heroes seems perfect for me
So what's the problem then?


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Slayerik on May 22, 2008, 10:50:36 AM
Well, so far its the first MMO I've played that could be considered fun....without the MMO stipulation being thrown on.

My guess is after 20 it will revert to WoW type leveling, but fuck it...they got me hooked already :)


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Dren on May 22, 2008, 11:49:31 AM
Hmm, the M rating may prevent me from ever even trying this.  If I'm limited to playing this after my kids go to bed (I play in the living room,) I'm not getting it.

I'm not willing to have to stop and explain the nipples and flying appendages to my kids ever few minutes.  I'm also not going to tell them to stop sitting by me and watching.  That's the whole reason I play in the living room in the first place.

It's already hard enough to explain some things to my kids in WoW.

"Dad, why did you just kill that dog?"


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 11:52:38 AM
You can turn off the mature content.

You'll still have to kill dogs.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Slayerik on May 22, 2008, 12:36:55 PM
Wow, thats an easy one.

Just tell him it was a terrorist dog, that makes killing ok.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Rasix on May 22, 2008, 12:38:23 PM
I have a hard time explaining to my wife killing anything feline.  Doesn't matter if it's a lion and gnawing on my arm.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Lantyssa on May 22, 2008, 12:49:08 PM
I have a hard time explaining to my wife killing anything feline.  Doesn't matter if it's a lion and gnawing on my arm.
It was hungry.  Cat hater!


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Falconeer on May 22, 2008, 03:03:06 PM
Wow, thats an easy one.

Just tell him it was a terrorist dog, that makes killing ok.

Please have my PvP children, Slayerik :heart:


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Hutch on May 22, 2008, 03:06:02 PM
I have a hard time explaining to my wife killing anything feline.  Doesn't matter if it's a lion and gnawing on my arm.

http://www.beastinthegarden.com/ (http://www.beastinthegarden.com/)


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Trippy on May 22, 2008, 03:58:07 PM
You can turn off the mature content.

You'll still have to kill dogs.
You can turn off (some) of the mature graphical content. However there's still plenty of dialog and quest-related stuff that's mature (swearing, prostitution, killing people just because, stealing from the dead, etc.).


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Trippy on May 22, 2008, 04:04:20 PM
For me, so far, it's combat pure and simple. The graphics are pretty, the quests are familiar, etc. But the combat is pretty fun for me.
I haven't gotten that far yet but the combat so far is not any more fun than CoH is at the later levels (once you fill out your attack chain). CoH has the same "no auto-attack"-style of combat (yes I know you can put a single power on auto) though the powers don't flow together quite as well as they do in Conan with some exceptions (Dual Blades has the same flowing style). Conan's combat is more fun at the early levels compared to CoH since you are never just standing around waiting for your powers to recharge like you do in CoH.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 04:07:45 PM
For me, so far, it's combat pure and simple. The graphics are pretty, the quests are familiar, etc. But the combat is pretty fun for me.
I haven't gotten that far yet but the combat so far is not any more fun than CoH is at the later levels (once you fill out your attack chain). CoH has the same "no auto-attack"-style of combat (yes I know you can put a single power on auto) though the powers don't flow together quite as well as they do in Conan with some exceptions (Dual Blades has the same flowing style). Conan's combat is more fun at the early levels compared to CoH since you are never just standing around waiting for your powers to recharge like you do in CoH.


Conan combat ramps up. Comparing early game conan to late game CoH is a fallacy anyway.

As CoH is boring and would've taken me months to get to 40. And I'd still be running through central park and a warehouse. Not to mention the combo gameplay here is simply more fun. It's an intangible, man.

Actually, it's not an intangible. At 40 they at Q and E to 1, 2, and 3 for bottom left and bottom right respectively. And your combos get more complex. And it becomes much prettier/snazzy.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Trippy on May 22, 2008, 04:16:29 PM
I'll see if I ever get that far. Right now "combo" is a total misnomer to me since when I see that word in relation to a combat system I think of fighting games. At the low levels "combo" in Conan really means "press two buttons instead of one to activate a power" not "chain two or more powers together to do something really cool". And the whole shield thing feels more like a reverse whack-a-mole (hit where the mole *isn't*) than anything that actually requires thought or strategy.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 04:17:33 PM
I've yet to do anything with shields and probably never will.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: NiX on May 22, 2008, 04:20:11 PM
Can someone give me a number on how large the folder is for the game? I have limited space on my computer and I'm hearing 25-30 gigs.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Numtini on May 22, 2008, 04:21:43 PM
25.2 gig currently.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 04:24:45 PM
Can someone give me a number on how large the folder is for the game? I have limited space on my computer and I'm hearing 25-30 gigs.

Delete some porn, noob.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: shiznitz on May 22, 2008, 04:34:35 PM
Well hidey-ho. I guess I pre-ordered because the CE arrived today. Installing. What am I going to do with the regular one I just bought?


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: NiX on May 22, 2008, 08:06:38 PM
Delete some porn, noob.
Much like me, you have moments where you're incredibly lame and unfunny.

Anyone know if Best Buy is price matching Amazons price?


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 08:13:45 PM
Delete some porn, noob.
Much like me, you have moments where you're incredibly lame and unfunny.

Anyone know if Best Buy is price matching Amazons price?

I wasn't tryin to be funny. Just delete some porn.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: NiX on May 22, 2008, 08:21:06 PM
There is none on my desktop HD. Mostly TV shows and large amounts of pictures I've never bothered to size down.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 08:23:51 PM
tv shows then. Porn is synonymous with huge media files.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: tmp on May 22, 2008, 08:43:21 PM
I'm not willing to have to stop and explain the nipples and flying appendages to my kids ever few minutes.
... it's nipples. They have pair just like that, themselves. What's there to explain?


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: rk47 on May 22, 2008, 08:46:19 PM
Well hidey-ho. I guess I pre-ordered because the CE arrived today. Installing. What am I going to do with the regular one I just bought?

oh i duno, two box?  :grin:


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Falconeer on May 22, 2008, 11:02:28 PM
Mh. Just wondering if the octopus people will find a way to effectively two (or three) box here too. Without hard targeting, having to manually melee and with healing spells mostly working just inside a very short ranged and not visible tight cone it'll require next-gen human skills to make any use out of two boxing.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: shiznitz on May 23, 2008, 09:05:40 AM
The CE also came with 5 buddy keys. How do those work?


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Signe on May 23, 2008, 11:36:51 AM
The buddy keys don't work yet.  I THINK it's associated with your account and you put in the person's email address.  If they ever bother.  I have a CE too, but I'm sending it back.  Amazon screwed us up and we canceled the order on their say so and after I bought a new box at the shop, they sent an email saying we couldn't cancel.  Bastards.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Numtini on May 23, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Quote
I'll see if I ever get that far. Right now "combo" is a total misnomer to me since when I see that word in relation to a combat system I think of fighting games. At the low levels "combo" in Conan really means "press two buttons instead of one to activate a power" not "chain two or more powers together to do something really cool". And the whole shield thing feels more like a reverse whack-a-mole (hit where the mole *isn't*) than anything that actually requires thought or strategy.

I'm so glad it's not just me. I like the matching attacks to defenses (big surprise I like whack-a-mole, I'm a raid healer in EQ2), but I don't see it as anything incredible or innovative.

The appeal of the combo thing just eludes me, is there a macro system I can use to spare my fingers? Does it change later to be somehow interactive?




Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: shiznitz on May 23, 2008, 12:20:29 PM
That is not the appeal of the combat. It is that you hit what is in front of you when you swing your weapon and how the mobs react to being hit. There is no lock-on targeting and swinging at air. These games are always going to have buttons to mash.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Hound on May 23, 2008, 12:49:13 PM
it really is a fun game and runs much better than the beta experience. Circuit City has it for 39.99. Go to Best Buy if it is closer and take a printed copy of Circuit City's web page and they will match the price


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Montague on May 23, 2008, 02:06:37 PM
Edit: Never mind.
 



Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Tairnyn on May 23, 2008, 05:29:56 PM
I am weak. I couldn't resist the non click and wait combat. And it's been too long since I've had a chance to use my computer for an actual game.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Special J on May 23, 2008, 08:24:19 PM
Dammit, I'm really tempted to give this a go now.  Anyone running this on an ATI?  I'd be running it on my notebook which has a 512MB Radeon 2600 Mobile. Which would seem well up to the job from the looks of some specs.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Krakrok on May 23, 2008, 08:45:19 PM
First mmo I've ever read more than 50% of the quest text.

I think I'm at about 20% on the quest text so far. All I know is I've ran laps around the city way too many times.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Numtini on May 24, 2008, 05:33:56 AM
I read most of the quest text. I'm actually really drawn in to the story. Though honestly, the feel is far more Thieves World/Sanctuary than Conan.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Xanthippe on May 27, 2008, 09:02:29 AM
Thanks for all the replies - I'm still a bit on the fence, though.

8 pages in the Things You Don't Like thread vs. 2 in the Things You Like thread.

Will you all be playing in a month?


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 27, 2008, 09:06:48 AM
Thanks for all the replies - I'm still a bit on the fence, though.

8 pages in the Things You Don't Like thread vs. 2 in the Things You Like thread.

Will you all be playing in a month?

The things people like become seamless. But things you don't like smack you in the face.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: shiznitz on May 27, 2008, 09:52:42 AM
Right. When someone asks you what you enjoy doing, you generally don't list "sex" since, well, duh.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Sir T on May 27, 2008, 10:37:28 AM
Some people actually don't like sex, you know.

















Just saying.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Lantyssa on May 27, 2008, 10:41:38 AM
Will you all be playing in a month?
I think so, but I'm fickle and might change my mind.  I'm also still in the Tortage portion of the game and haven't seen the 20+ content.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Nerf on May 27, 2008, 10:46:46 AM

Will you all be playing in a month?

Most definately, im at 46 right now and theres still plenty of quests, I've only run into one -truly- bugged quest up to this point, and it was around 40 in the noble district.

Several quests have some serious issues, finally ran into a "You can climb here!" with no clicky, had to hit the U key to finish the quest.

Someone was saying in chat earlier that one of the level 50 zones, mount eli or somesuch, has about 50 quests, quite a few group quests, and theres another instance around somewhere.

When I finally feel like I've outleveled the current content, I'll just roll an alt, the lower level content is fucking amazing.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: shiznitz on May 27, 2008, 12:54:31 PM
Some people actually don't like sex, you know.

Post-NGE SWG players do not count.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Dtrain on May 27, 2008, 01:30:19 PM
Will you all be playing in a month?
I think so, but I'm fickle and might change my mind.  I'm also still in the Tortage portion of the game and haven't seen the 20+ content.

I'm just tearing into the 20+ stuff and after an initial rough start, I'm making good progress. There are no voice overs, the cohesiveness falls apart, and there is no obvious narrative to direct you where to go when you finish a line of quests. After exploring and asking around I found a few quest hubs in cimmeria that are getting me quick levels. (Maybe it's just a problem with Aquilonia though.)

Be prepared for the occasional long run back to somewhere, so keep an eye out for the blue circles (bind points) in any new area you visit.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Xanthippe on May 28, 2008, 01:46:38 PM
Ok, I bought it.  It's installing now.

From what I've read about patching and all that, maybe I can play it tomorrow.

Thanks for all of the advice/reports.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Brogarn on May 28, 2008, 01:47:55 PM
Ok, I bought it.  It's installing now.

From what I've read about patching and all that, maybe I can play it tomorrow.

Thanks for all of the advice/reports.

The install and patching was actually pretty quick for me. I got great download speeds. I'll cross my fingers for ya that it's the same for you.  :-)


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Morfiend on May 28, 2008, 01:49:22 PM
Patching was a breeze for me, was like 700mb total, but very fast, like maybe 15 to 20 minutes. The install was what took me a long time. It ran like almost 2 hours.


Title: Re: Tell me why I should (or shouldn't) buy this
Post by: Xanthippe on May 28, 2008, 03:06:45 PM
Patching was a breeze for me, was like 700mb total, but very fast, like maybe 15 to 20 minutes. The install was what took me a long time. It ran like almost 2 hours.

My install took 15 to 20 minutes.  It's patching now, and very very slowly.

288KB/s - at this rate, I'll be on tomorrow.  It's s-l-o-w.