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Found some info on gathering & crafting from a post on the AOC forums.

-Gathering skills can be learned at 20.

-There are resources available to gather in the 20+ zones. Trees, for example, show leaves falling from them if they are gatherable.

-Crafting can be trained at 40.

-Aquilonians train at Poitain, Stygians at Purple Lotus Swamp.

http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=3900 (http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=3900)

EDIT:

While Information is really fucking limited, here's what is important.

In the same location the guild city will be set up - The Purple Lotus Swamp, you'll find all your crafters. One of them is not wearing a top. Anyway, here's the low level (level 25) gathering classes:


You can take all 5. Do so.

High level crafting (40+) is as follows:


You can only pick 1.

I'll go through the pain of being an architect. Obviously, the others will be needed. Finally, the gemcutting and alchemy stuff drops from monsters. So all that shit generic stuff? Gems, etc. Store them. I think.

Ok, more as I find out.

Geez. Besides Arch, it sounds like WoW. Please tell me it plays out differently.

Please don't compare this game to WoW. If you really want to, throw up a thread in MMOG.

Never even played it dude. I'm just asking (asking) how it plays out -- because the profession names at least sound WoW-ish.

Or Muddish circa 1990. That was my point. That there's nothing new here, a comparison is just silly. It plays out like the profession would play out, get shit make shit viola items. ^_^

He's right man, the whole system is totally ripping off WoW, take off your fanboi glasses and look at the real picture.

I mean cmon, fucking mining? Skinning? ALCHEMY!?!11

I'm seriously considering ebaying my AoC box now, fuck funcom, fuck them in their thieving norweigan asses!

I thought/hoped that since they went through the trouble of citybuilding, then that might have indicated a more creative direction with crafting in general. Not knocking it necessarily. It's just that... umm.. Well, whatever. Nevermind.  :oh_i_see:

How many architects are needed anyways?

I would have gone for architect, too, at least one of my chars will.  City building is actually one of the draws of this game for me.  Though, I wish there were move construction professions.  My PoM will probably do something girly.

You're being sarcastic with the "ripping off Wow" right?

Architects are also the ones who build siege engined during PvP I guess.  And don't say that about PoM, I play one and I don't want it to become the girly class like Toyota solaras!

Or Jettas.

Green or fail?

Wow. Time for Context and Deconstruction 101.

"Take off your fanboi glasses" is an obvious tongue-in-cheek trolling. This is your first clue. More to follow.

Note here the cliche'd abuse of overemphasized punctuation, complete with ironic substitution of 1 for !.

"Thieving norwegian asses" is not a thing you can say without implied sarcasm. Unless Nerf is, in fact, Norwegian. In which case this entire analysis is moot.

DO NOT FALL INTO HIS SARCHASM!!!  You might never get out!

Nerf is an ass and a forum griefer.

Don't forget he's a racist, and a snappy dresser.  :grin:

He smells of Bengay and failure.

Well harvesting isn't the nice relaxing activity I thought it would be.  Anything from one to three mobs will often randomly spawn, some are mini bosses.  You can also get jumped just wandering around, enemies spawn right on you.  Some of the animals are bugged too, a level 20 pig tore me to pieces in no time flat but a level 25 cow just needed a feather touch.  I'm still not sure how to get leather, I imagine it's a drop because I can't do anything with the corpses...

There are way, way too few resource nodes too.  It's going to be insane once everyone decides to check it out so you should do your gather quests right now.  There were maybe six people sharing the zone with me and even though it's quite large most of the resources had already been depleted.

Looking forward it would be a good idea to right click on your mini map and set a waypoint each time you find a node.

Some level 40 people are saying you can now take two professions (http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=6863) instead of just one.  They might be lying though...

You have my vote for thread winner

Thanks for that info.

Merging into other thread.

I am able to begin the gathering quests at 22.

The gathering quests require you to collect 20 each of certain resources, the nodes of which can be found in the zone you trained in. There is no node tracking on the mini map that I can find, so you have to find them. I'm doing them now and thankfully each node gives plenty of resources, my first ash tree gave 10 out of the 20 needed.

Might be a good time to bang these quests out now before the hordes get to 20+ and resource competition heats up in these zones.

interestingly, nodes appear to be static spawns. They have a health bar that lowers as you farm them, and slowly regenerates over time.

Do resources have variable quality rates which change the outcome of a crafted item each time one is made?

Not that I know of.

Yes there are rare harvests like tin from copper nodes and they can be used in higher quality recipes.  The second set of harvesting quests actually require a rare from each resource type and it's a fucking pain in the neck.  It will only get worse as more people come to the resource areas.

I enjoy searching for the best possible resource to plug into a recipe, although something like the high amount of variables in the SWG resources would turn me off this time around. On the other hand, I'm not looking for the cookie cutter recipes that are in WoW either. Maybe the AoC system will turn out to be a happy medium, although I'll wait about another month before I sub.

Gathering is pretty fun, I've gained almost 2 levels from doing it so far.

Can someone explain skinning?

Lemme get this straight.....you gained levels by pickin herbs and shit? Or was it the kills near the resources?

Fuckin' A ... points to Funcom if the former

There is no skinning, leather is a drop.

No he would have gotten the levels from the fedEx and initial gathering quests.

mostly from killing the guys who pop when you gather.

Tonight we formed a full party of guildees and went gathering resources for the guild city (for those who missed it, you gather 95% of the resources in specific instances where you can only build Guild Cities and/or gather resources). It has been a blast! Maybe it's just the novelty, maybe it's the unexpected XPing while resource gathering, maybe it is thanks to the "apprenticeship" system (a kind of EQ2 mentoring, only upside down, as the lowest char temporarily gets the highest one's level) which let us form a full party even though some of us were 40+ and some other just above 20. But traveling from resouce node to resource node collecting resources actually useful to BUILD STUFF that changes the landscape, while at the same time:

1) completing Gathering Quests (getting XP and advancing as a gatherer)
2) fighting (because harvest nodes spawns mobs of various levels, including Bosses, Mini-Bosses and Nameds)
3) getting XP and loots from said mobs

is much much more than I expected from the harvesting/building section of Age of Conan. Could it be that they found an entertaining way to do resource-gathering and make it a social experience too?

I don't know. Maybe it's not such a cool thing after all: there are a few annoyances and some of the gathering quests are just irritating. And I can only imagine it will all get nasty when people will start flooding these places (let alone bots!). But I had fun tonight, and it felt definitely different to form a group to just go harvest, and not feel that we were wasting time.

I'm surprised that not once has anyone mentioned the "riddle of steel".  :awesome_for_real:

I'll be a blacksmith then, once I get a new machine. Probably will be too late in contributing with Arch.

This is what happened:

I only had room for 2 quests in my quest journal. Then I picked up the armorsmith profession. It gives you 3 quests as you do it. The first one is completed once you completed 10 sub-quests. The other two quests are basic canvas equip and advanced canvas equip. So, 3 quests. BUT I only had room for two, so the First one went on my hournal, then Basic Canvas.. but Advanced Canvas couldn't so I missed it.

And now I am stuck.

You can't drop your crafting profession.
You can't delete crafting quests.
You can't get that quest again as it counts as he knows you already took them (even if the second part didn't work due to a full journal).
You can't advance in you crafting profession.

I am stuck. Can't advance as a crafter, can't drop it and can't delete 3 quests from my already tight journal.
I petitioned and I am 89th in the queue. After 6 (six!) hours online I was 87th.. and if you log out your petition is deleted.

I am very angry.

If you log out your petition is deleted? What? Someone answered mine 10 hours later when I was somewhere else completely. It may delete it on your end, but not the other end afaik.

I tried it 3 times in the past days.
What can I say? It must be the Euro interpretation of Customer Support.

/threadderailment

Back when I was playing AO, I submitted a petition to Funcom that never was answered, so I quit the game after the first 30 days was up.  3-4 months later they responded to it by email... no joke.  Let's hope they're a little quicker with AoC.

/threadrerailment

So... crafting... yeah.

now that people are hitting 40, maybe we should list what trade skills we are planing on taking...

Well, maybe I'm naive, but we just built the Tradepost, right after the Keep. It does nothing.

So I did some investigation and found out that: "Player cities are not fully implemented yet. They don't have NPCs yet, they do nothing at all. They are just empty shells".

Add to that the answer a GM handed out to one of the very lucky few players  whose petition got through:

"Hello. Unfortunately, all tradeskills are currently in a state of chaos. They should be back within perfect order soon (though we cannot say how soon... next update). We apologize for this inconvenience ask for the love of the Gods that you DO NOT visit the Feat Fixer!"

and you have an extremely disappointed Falconeer. Frustrated is the correct word actually. I want Norwegian blood.

Yeah, the basic stuff works well enough but features that are must-haves aren't working yet. I like the game well enough to more than likely stick with it but I wonder how long of a grace period Funcom has to get this stuff working.

the paint really starts pealing after level 40.

I've heard of so many problems with crafting I'm not touching any of it for months.

They still don't have the traders working in the cities so there was no chance that yours would work :(.

I would have been happy with a mime NPC, too.  :uhrr:

I took gemcutting, and just found out it's semi-borked. Not all cuts count toward crafting, and placing a gem in a weapon or armor makes you crash when you mouseover it   :ye_gods:

Crafting = :uhrr:

I'll brave Alchemy when i get there

Alchemists gets their materials from mob drops.  Those materials don't appear to be in game yet and they can't finish their starting quests...

They only drop on level 40 + mobs, I've gotten a few so far.

I got a fungus last night....

I've got fungus, blood, and a few other things for any budding alchy.

After 2+ days in the /petition queue I moved up from spot 83 to 27.. and then this morning *poof* "You have no petitions".

This make me want to smash my head into a wall or some GM nose.

I ussued a new petition and voila..  80th in the queue. I am sure I'll jump my way up to like 10th spot this time only to have it disappear in the black hole of customer harassing.

iirc, SWG cleared it's petition queue at the 3-month mark. Just wiped the slate clean. That sorta makes sense when a game is so woefully incomplete. I really did think the XP rate in AoC would be nerfed before launch, thus preventing the amount of folks experiencing the unfinished parts of the game. But that is a double-edged sword, as all games that nerfed XP before launch have experienced.

Ah well. They needed to launch eventually, and they probably wanted to do so before WAR. But they could have used another six months with a lot more people testing than I think there were.

As someone perusing the AoC forum, trying to decide whether to attempt to upgrade my oldass PC to try a new game, this thread has been a nifty roller coaster ride. At first, I was looking to the middle of June and some cash surplus and thinking, "Fuck a console, let's upgrade the desktop machine." Once the thread shifted to, "crafting is borked," I'm back to planning a console purchase.

I guess they were missing the secondary components, the patch today will put them on the vendor.

So I hit 50 and got my t2 recipes, largely crap, but now I have the ability to use rare resources!
I can add 1 tin to any weapon, and get the exact same weapon as before, but with a blue name.

Also, getting the level 50 recipes took away my level 40 recipes.

There's a reason I haven't picked up a profession yet.

I still have my level 40 recipes, but my level 50 recipes make the same items with different names... same materials as well.

Is it wrong that I read the thread title to the tune of Holiday in Cambodia?

I've decided I hate resource gathering.

To move on to the next tier of resources, you have to do two quests for an NPC.

The first quest is to gather 20 or so of the resource you are currently on, which is fine.

The second quest is to gather the rare drop from the resource you are currently on, which is a pisser. You can spend literally hours mining copper, getting much more copper than you are ever need or want, in the hope of getting the rare drop from a copper node (which is tin). Then you move on to the next tier and it starts all over again.

We can only hope that the entire gathering/crafting thing is completely redone, because it's really, really, really fucked right now.

Cotton for the love of Crom, cotton!

Got my rare leather off of the second croc I killed in Khopsef.  I guess it isn't actually used in any recipes yet :oh_i_see:.

I'll assume that is comes into play after the next set of armor smithing quests. The first set of quests required 84 rough leather. I farmed the last 30 I needed yesterday only o find the next set of quests takes... the same tier 1 materials, but more. None of the cotton or rough leather I have from before the may 27 patch works and I really don't want to go farm 137 more rough leather (although to credit, they did see to fix prey animals so that the lower level ones are only dropping rough leather, still about a 1 in 5 drop rate).

Minor rant inc:

Gathering... Resource node competition seriously need to be looked at.  I'm sure they're fine on PvP servers, where you can at least attack people.  But there's jack I can do on PvE.  It's bad enough that nearly every node I come across is at 12-24% which only yields a few resources. 

I *finally* find the elusive Copper node I was looking for over a 20 minute period, and it's 100%!!!!  So I hit it and get interrupted by a mini-boss on the first strike.  While fighting it, some tool comes up and starts wacking away at the node.  As I finish the boss off, there's 70% left.  So I start hitting it again and get uninterrupted again by a boss.  Of course, by the time I'm done with that fight the jackass has looted the whole node and I never got a thing off it.  Didn't even get any loot off the bosses, either. 

I'm not entirely sure what the answer is, other than making bosses in the crafting fields actually drop mats/rare mats.  Regardless, it was just a crappy experience.

On a PvP server they'd just wait until you're fighting, and then gank you. Atleast that's what I'd do. :)

And let him get the whole node without interruption? i wait till they start gathering then gank them, waiting for a mob spawn is too risky.

On a semi-crafting related note (waypoints) does anyone know of a bxml to xml converter?  I've only found one code package and I'm not sure I'm technically proficient enough to get it running.  I'll try when I have the chance, but thought I would check here first before starting to beat my head against a wall.  (cwxml is the package although an existing tool would be Splenda)

Hahaha, someone interrupted you. Hey you're fucked, it's a level 80 PoM! That would be awesome. The first time.