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Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: Signe on October 25, 2004, 06:56:30 AM http://eq2vault.ign.com/static.php?page=QeynosMap
Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: jpark on October 25, 2004, 07:11:29 AM People really like grey and black in this game hehe
Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: Signe on October 25, 2004, 07:14:10 AM They seem to like it on this board, too.
Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: El Gallo on October 25, 2004, 08:05:37 AM People in Qenyos are so nice to your character, and Freepers are such dicks. I think my troll will have to do the betrayal quest.
Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: jpark on October 25, 2004, 08:44:34 AM Quote from: El Gallo People in Qenyos are so nice to your character, and Freepers are such dicks. I think my troll will have to do the betrayal quest. It's the problem with evil in games I think - the idea is cool - but the community it tends to attract is not. Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: Ookii on October 25, 2004, 09:21:00 AM I might do the betrayal as well, I mean, Qenyos just looks so nice.
Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: Sable Blaze on October 25, 2004, 09:21:51 AM What do you expect from eeeeeeeevvvviiilllllllllll?
Although, adminttedly, the predominance of such a low-brow sort of evil is a bit distressing. Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: Alkiera on October 25, 2004, 09:23:42 AM Quote from: jpark Quote from: El Gallo People in Qenyos are so nice to your character, and Freepers are such dicks. I think my troll will have to do the betrayal quest. It's the problem with evil in games I think - the idea is cool - but the community it tends to attract is not. It's more the problem with evil in general. Evil is generally self-serving and often homocidal. It's part of the problem evil organizations have... morale sucks, and real loyalty is all but non-existant. Alkiera Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: El Gallo on October 25, 2004, 09:49:28 AM It just comes off as so juvenile. I would be all over playing my part in some conspiracy to unleash demonic hordes on the world or somesuch. However, evil in most games (including, sadly, EQ2) is getting quests to kick puppies for no reason and having every NPC say "you smell" or "look at me again and die, loser."
There is also a serious overruse of what I call the "err" mechanic in the NPC dialogue. I'm sure there is a better name for it, but it seems every other one of the Freeper questgivers says something like "I want you to go fetch this potion so I can slaughter everyo...err heal my sick friend" which was old the second time time I heard it. Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: Signe on October 25, 2004, 11:14:32 AM This is the third post of mine in various forums about innocent things like maps and Jboots that has sparked a discussion on 'evil'. I'm beginning to get nervous.
Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: Fargull on October 25, 2004, 11:20:25 AM Its the shaved pussy Signe, it brings out the evil in everyone.
Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: jpark on October 25, 2004, 11:32:05 AM Quote from: El Gallo It just comes off as so juvenile. I would be all over playing my part in some conspiracy to unleash demonic hordes on the world or somesuch. However, evil in most games (including, sadly, EQ2) is getting quests to kick puppies for no reason and having every NPC say "you smell" or "look at me again and die, loser." There is also a serious overruse of what I call the "err" mechanic in the NPC dialogue. I'm sure there is a better name for it, but it seems every other one of the Freeper questgivers says something like "I want you to go fetch this potion so I can slaughter everyo...err heal my sick friend" which was old the second time time I heard it. I hear ya. A great evil Archetype is Dracula. Evil yes - but his manner and discourse was always sophisticated and superficially courteous ... to a point. In pen and paper DnD we called this Lawful Evil. Evil is great when it is sophisticated. Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: Alkiera on October 25, 2004, 11:37:48 AM Quote from: jpark Quote from: El Gallo It just comes off as so juvenile. I would be all over playing my part in some conspiracy to unleash demonic hordes on the world or somesuch. However, evil in most games (including, sadly, EQ2) is getting quests to kick puppies for no reason and having every NPC say "you smell" or "look at me again and die, loser." There is also a serious overruse of what I call the "err" mechanic in the NPC dialogue. I'm sure there is a better name for it, but it seems every other one of the Freeper questgivers says something like "I want you to go fetch this potion so I can slaughter everyo...err heal my sick friend" which was old the second time time I heard it. I hear ya. A great evil Archetype is Dracula. Evil yes - but his manner and discourse was always sophisticated and superficially courteous ... to a point. In pen and paper DnD we called this Lawful Evil. Evil is great when it is sophisticated. Yes. However, look at the demographic for these games, including the average maturity level... Of this demographic, those who wish to be evil, if given a choice between lawful evil and chaotic evil, will choose which? Exactly. Therefore, Freeport, and the stupid 'evil'. Alkiera Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: Signe on October 28, 2004, 07:47:13 AM Darniaq has some nice new maps. He is the God of All Maps, I think. Maybe he'll post them here?
DARNIAQ! Get with the plan, mate! I want to smoke. Dammit. Title: Qeynos map is up now, too. Post by: Soukyan on October 28, 2004, 07:51:09 AM Yes. Please to be posting your pretty maps.
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