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Title: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Gutboy Barrelhouse on April 11, 2008, 06:47:12 AM
COMMERCE CITY, Colo. -- A couple fighting about which gang their 4-year-old toddler should join caused a public disturbance that resulted in the father's arrest, Commerce City police said Thursday.

On Saturday, Joseph Manzanares stormed into the Hollywood Video store where his girlfriend worked, threatened to kill her and knocked over several video displays and even a computer, Commerce City police Sgt. Joe Sandoval said.

After he ran out of the store, police were called and the 19-year-old was arrested at his home. 

His girlfriend told police that they had been arguing about the upbringing of their son and which gang he should belong to. The teen mother, who is black, is a member of the Crips. Manzanares is Hispanic and belongs to the Westside Ballers gang, the woman said.

"They have different ideas on how the baby should be raised. Basically, she said they cannot agree on which gang the baby would 'claim,'" Sandoval said.

Manzanares was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment, and domestic violence. He was transported to the Adams County Detention Facility.

On Tuesday, he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a year of probation. The misdemeanor harassment charge was dropped.


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 11, 2008, 06:50:09 AM
Shoot them both, and someone else raise the kid. Sometimes, i feel there should be an IQ requirement to having children. (See the first part of Idiocracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy))

EDIT: Can we get a link to the original story?


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Riggswolfe on April 11, 2008, 07:16:10 AM
*blinks* Wow. I don't even have the words. If there is a clearer case for the state taking a child I am having trouble thinking of it.


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Sky on April 11, 2008, 07:29:43 AM
Just call gangs militias. Gangbangers are insurgents. Bam, War on Terror invoked, problem solved. Mission Accomplished.


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: WayAbvPar on April 11, 2008, 07:32:50 AM
Pls to be sterilizing these two geniuses kthx.


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: HaemishM on April 11, 2008, 08:25:56 AM
Sometimes, i feel there should be an IQ requirement to having children.

I think they both failed the test when they chose not to buy condoms.


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 11, 2008, 08:30:54 AM
Sometimes, i feel there should be an IQ requirement to having children.

I think they both failed the test when they chose not to buy condoms.

(http://www.mediabistro.com/unbeige/original/idiocracy_buttfuckers-thumb.jpg)


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Gutboy Barrelhouse on April 11, 2008, 08:50:26 AM
Here is a link:

http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_8879794?source=commented-


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 11, 2008, 09:23:33 AM
Yes, he looks like the pinnacle of intelligence.

(http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2008/0410/20080410__josephmanzanares~p1_200.jpg)


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Paelos on April 11, 2008, 09:38:04 AM
19 year old father, 4 year old kid.

15 years old when it was born. This kid had zero shot at being smart about it.


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Prospero on April 11, 2008, 09:58:46 AM
And this kids is why you don't date outside of the gang. Things just get too complicated. Didn't West Side Story teach them anything?


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Llava on April 11, 2008, 10:07:51 AM
<shrug>

I understand the idiocy, but I think everyone's missing out on the major parallel between this and something many "normal" couples go through.

"Hm, in which exclusionary community should we raise our child?"
"Well, I'm a member of exclusionary group A.  So that's where he's going."
"What?  Why do you get to decide?  I'm in exclusionary group B!  He's going there!"

Of course, the exclusionary groups I'm talking about aren't necessarily committing crimes, so there's that difference.


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: HaemishM on April 11, 2008, 11:11:54 AM
That post is SO a dig on religion.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: JWIV on April 11, 2008, 11:21:08 AM
The ironic thing is that the problem is often typically the exact reverse of this.  Parents leaving their kids at home while they're out partying and in general can't be arsed to give two shits over what the kid is doing. 


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 11, 2008, 11:29:07 AM
The ironic thing is that the problem is often typically the exact reverse of this.  Parents leaving their kids at home while they're out partying and in general can't be arsed to give two shits over what the kid is doing. 


None of this was about the kid. None of it.


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Phildo on April 11, 2008, 01:23:50 PM
What are the odds on the crips taking out a hit on this kid for slapping one of their women around in public?  Then the Ballers take out the woman and the kid gets to grow up on his own and make his own decision.  It's free will, bitches!


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Riggswolfe on April 11, 2008, 01:54:28 PM
That post is SO a dig on religion.  :awesome_for_real:

Yeah, but Llava has a point. I hadn't even thought about it until he posted but you do hear about this kind of thing when it comes to religious upgringing, or schools, that kind of thing and no one thinks twice about it.


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Llava on April 11, 2008, 02:01:55 PM
That post is SO a dig on religion.  :awesome_for_real:

I don't know what you're talking about.

I was talking about the Yankees and Mets.


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Sky on April 14, 2008, 06:07:04 AM
I was talking about the Yankees and Sox.


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Llava on April 14, 2008, 08:17:48 AM
You know, I typed that first, then I went to look it up to make sure it was right.  I couldn't really find anything, so I looked up the Mets and said "Well, they're both in New York.  I think that was the nature of the rivalry." and changed it to that.

Once again I've proven that I could not possibly care any less about sports.


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: Paelos on April 14, 2008, 08:34:14 AM
You know, I typed that first, then I went to look it up to make sure it was right.  I couldn't really find anything, so I looked up the Mets and said "Well, they're both in New York.  I think that was the nature of the rivalry." and changed it to that.

Once again I've proven that I could not possibly care any less about sports.

And that is why you fail!

Go Braves!


Title: Re: Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
Post by: HaemishM on April 14, 2008, 08:47:22 AM
That post is SO a dig on religion.  :awesome_for_real:

Yeah, but Llava has a point.

If he didn't have a point, it wouldn't have been funny. OR  :awesome_for_real: