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Title: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Bungee on March 12, 2008, 07:02:14 AM
Wonder no more who actually has the biggest piece of the Pie as MMOG Chart (http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart7.html) provides us insight.

Honestly, I thought it would be more WoW and less Linage oO


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: K9 on March 12, 2008, 07:07:42 AM
What the hell is Dofus?

edit: Googled it - Dofus (http://www.dofus.co.uk/mmorpg-free.html)

I like how they have a banner proudly announcing "Already 6 million players". If that's true then SirBruce's chart is wrong. Or... it could be that Dofus is full of crap, or most likely, both are massively innacurate.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Nebu on March 12, 2008, 07:07:46 AM
This isn't going to end well.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: schild on March 12, 2008, 07:21:54 AM
I'm going to try to make "shedaum" a colloquialism. But I'm not sure what definition to give it. Anyone?


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: K9 on March 12, 2008, 07:22:59 AM
Could you put it in a sentence please.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Bungee on March 12, 2008, 07:38:58 AM
I like how they have a banner proudly announcing "Already 6 million players". If that's true then SirBruce's chart is wrong. Or... it could be that Dofus is full of crap, or most likely, both are massively innacurate.

Maybe the Chart only counts Players, that actually pay for the pleasure of being able to play a particular MMO.

And I'm really curious what schild will come up with.

"Shadaim" actually is the hebraic word for "breasts". See this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=m8SctyF_XdE) for further explanation


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Tebonas on March 12, 2008, 07:45:39 AM
So that isn't Shazam written in Kurrent? Damnit!  :-)


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Ratman_tf on March 12, 2008, 08:20:47 AM
Wakka wakka wakka. (http://www.kids-korner.com/graphics/pacman.gif)


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: schild on March 12, 2008, 08:23:04 AM
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh It's shadaim.

The cursive made it look like shadaum or shedaum. Whatever. I haven't read cursive since like 1990.

Not as interesting anymore.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Trippy on March 12, 2008, 08:28:21 AM
I like how they have a banner proudly announcing "Already 6 million players". If that's true then SirBruce's chart is wrong. Or... it could be that Dofus is full of crap, or most likely, both are massively innacurate.
Dofus has both free to play content (very limited) and subscription-only content. The chart is only counting players with subscriptions.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: K9 on March 12, 2008, 08:32:14 AM
Dofus has both free to play content (very limited) and subscription-only content. The chart is only counting players with subscriptions.

Ah, gotcha.

I'm still surprised that I'd never heard of this game, if it is the 6th largest MMO out there. I've heard of all the others listed, even Tibia..


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: schild on March 12, 2008, 08:36:05 AM
Dofus could have been such epic awesome.

But it turned out so fucking boring.

I've almost bought the art books like 50 times though.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: WayAbvPar on March 12, 2008, 09:16:23 AM
Isn't shedaim the Hebrew word for breasts? I am basing this claim strictly on having seen it on an episode of Coupling, so take that for what it's worth  :grin:


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Bungee on March 12, 2008, 09:19:24 AM
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh It's shadaim.

The cursive made it look like shadaum or shedaum. Whatever. I haven't read cursive since like 1990.

Not as interesting anymore.

I'd really like to see your Screen Resolution. I really tried hard to, but couldn't figure out how to get that "i" and "m" to an "um". Especially given the fact you got the "a" right and there just aren't enough vertical lines left to form that. Ooooooh, found it....

Nevertheless, what really surprised me in that Chart, was the numbers Lineage is able to put on.
Even more so Linage is doing better than Lineage 2 oO

That sequel must have been able to not only NOT provide enough new features to draw some prequel fans, no it even seems to have failed to even hold on to what the players liked in the prequel.

That's like making the Double-Whopper with 1 1/2 Patties and without the salad.

Edit: Vertical Creativeness


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: schild on March 12, 2008, 09:24:10 AM
1920x1200.

Hard Cursive is Hard.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 12, 2008, 10:12:05 AM
Its the "I" and the "M" having the same leading serif on the post, creating an optical illusion. Its not just schild.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Raging Turtle on March 12, 2008, 10:45:11 AM
Eve has more subs than EQ2.  Impressive.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Trouble on March 12, 2008, 10:47:33 AM
A guildmate of mine made this a couple days ago:

(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2929/subscriptionsid1.jpg)


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Bungee on March 12, 2008, 10:53:51 AM
So, if you want a really succesfull MMO, you are left with two options:

a) Make a game, that is so farm and grind intensive, that i literally takes 10+ people to feed one actually played character (get those Chinese guys in the game)
b) Make a game, that is so easy to play and rewarding while consuming a lot of time to accomplish something really meaningful.

Either one would have been made WoW a really great success.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: eldaec on March 12, 2008, 11:10:30 AM
I read it as "Shadam!" first time, sounded like something an amatuer magician (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhzBVBZKte4&feature=related) would use to make shit disappear.



Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Jayce on March 12, 2008, 11:23:48 AM
I'm aware that I'm one of the casual scrub section, but I'm curious what constitutes an "actual wow player".


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: K9 on March 12, 2008, 11:29:28 AM
I'm aware that I'm one of the casual scrub section, but I'm curious what constitutes an "actual wow player".

Elitist raiders methinks, that's not all raiders, just the sort of raider who only sees other players as a collection of loot items and who thinks 'casual' is a profanity.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Slyfeind on March 12, 2008, 12:57:26 PM
I've seen banner ads for Dufos before. Looked like the typical Korean fare. I'm surprised nobody's bashing Bruce yet. BUNGGEE IS TEH BRUCE IN DISGIUSE


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: IainC on March 12, 2008, 01:11:07 PM
I've seen banner ads for Dufos before. Looked like the typical Korean fare. I'm surprised nobody's bashing Bruce yet. BUNGGEE IS TEH BRUCE IN DISGIUSE

Dofus is French. French anime is huge on the continent ad has a very distinct artistic style to Eastern anime.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: sidereal on March 12, 2008, 01:34:26 PM
Mmmm.  Pie.

(http://www.stubbsbbq.com/images/uploads/23_139_popup.jpg)


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Bungee on March 12, 2008, 01:49:53 PM
I've seen banner ads for Dufos before. Looked like the typical Korean fare. I'm surprised nobody's bashing Bruce yet. BUNGGEE IS TEH BRUCE IN DISGIUSE

Ok, so who is Bruce?
The only Bruce I know is a Catwalk trainer who was part of a the casting show "Germany's next Top Model".

(http://www.faz.net/m/%7BD901048F-D780-47AD-B176-9DD6E3625FEA%7DPicture.jpg)

And no, I don't look like that



Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: schild on March 12, 2008, 01:57:20 PM
Bungee isn't Bruce guys.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: IainC on March 12, 2008, 01:59:03 PM
Bruce is Sir Bruce (http://www.mmogchart.com/).

MMO commentator and stat collector of old. Famous for his 'robust' views on games and game design.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Xanthippe on March 12, 2008, 02:11:13 PM
Shadaim?



(http://www.makash.ac.il/h_school/hss/hsse/hsseso/virnp/2001-2/np21/shadaim.gif)


I still don't know what that means.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Triforcer on March 12, 2008, 02:12:55 PM
Bruce is Sir Bruce (http://www.mmogchart.com/).

MMO commentator and stat collector of old. Famous for his 'robust' views on games and game design.

That's like saying Paris Hilton is famous for House of Wax.  The underlying notoriety is the result of...other things. 


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: eldaec on March 12, 2008, 02:54:37 PM
MMO commentator and stat collector of old Some guy who wastes his time making subscription stats up. Famous Not fondly remembered on this board as an annoying self-important twerp with no views of any consequence his 'robust' views on games and game design. Sort of like Dash in the politics forum, or sinj and that AW guy in a trammel thread only EVERYWHERE AND IN EVERY THREAD.

Fixed.


But don't worry, you aren't the first to come here and start a thread about that site, you won't be the last, and if it degenerates into harmless pictures of pie on page one, it's a ending better than most get.

(http://www.seriouseats.com/required_eating/images/potd_pi-pie.jpg)


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Jobu on March 12, 2008, 02:56:28 PM
I've almost bought the art books like 50 times though.

Where do you find these? All I ever found were ones on Amazon.fr and I don't wanna go through the trouble.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Velorath on March 12, 2008, 03:29:17 PM
Dofus could have been such epic awesome.

But it turned out so fucking boring.

I've almost bought the art books like 50 times though.

Which reminds me, Amano's book from Radical Comics is up for pre-order now (http://www.amazon.com/Yoshitaka-Amanos-Mateki-Magic-Flute/dp/098023350X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205362459&sr=8-1) (comes out mid-June).


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: schild on March 12, 2008, 03:33:04 PM
I've almost bought the art books like 50 times though.

Where do you find these? All I ever found were ones on Amazon.fr and I don't wanna go through the trouble.

http://www.ankama-shop.com/en/c10-artbook/


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Signe on March 12, 2008, 04:26:15 PM
Iain, that description really sucks.  It didn't even contain the words furry or twat in it! 


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Bungee on March 13, 2008, 09:31:16 AM
Iain, that description really sucks.  It didn't even contain the words furry or twat in it! 

I don't know what I should be more sad about now.
Being compared to a guy that has to have said words in a description of him, or relying on a source provided by said person :sad_panda:


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Nevermore on March 13, 2008, 10:06:51 AM
I don't know

He's the only poster I know of

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what I should be more sad about now.

who was so annoying

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Being compared to a guy

he has a method of posting

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that has to have said words in a description of him,

named after him

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or relying on a source provided by said person

called

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:sad_panda:

SirBrucing


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Simond on March 13, 2008, 10:54:32 AM
Bruce is Sir Bruce (http://www.mmogchart.com/).

MMO commentator and stat collector of old. Famous for his 'robust' views on games and game design.
You forgot the dogfucking.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: stu on March 13, 2008, 11:38:27 AM
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/stuabrtow/pie_guilty.jpg)

The pie is tainted.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: tmp on March 13, 2008, 11:45:27 AM
Iain, that description really sucks.  It didn't even contain the words furry or twat in it! 
I must say the term "furry twat" combined with that forum avatar created some mental scars that won't heal easily. If ever.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: UnSub on March 13, 2008, 05:48:54 PM
Iain, that description really sucks.  It didn't even contain the words furry or twat in it! 
I must say the term "furry twat" combined with that forum avatar created some mental scars that won't heal easily. If ever.

Also, the appearance of those terms has just seen the number of people coming to this thread through Google jump 3000%.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Signe on March 13, 2008, 07:42:23 PM
oops.  sorry.   (http://www.woolywonder.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)  i was just trying to adhere to f13 standards. 


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Miasma on March 14, 2008, 06:54:18 AM
(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7085/mmogpiebw5.gif)


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Bunk on March 14, 2008, 07:18:55 AM
Iain, that description really sucks.  It didn't even contain the words furry or twat in it! 
I must say the term "furry twat" combined with that forum avatar created some mental scars that won't heal easily. If ever.

Also, the appearance of those terms has just seen the number of people coming to this thread through Google jump 3000%.

Hey, now Schild knows how to bring up traffic when needed...

Crap, I was going to drop in a pic of Bruce, but amazingly I can't find him on GIS. Oh well.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Murgos on March 14, 2008, 11:01:54 AM
Damn, Nebu beat me to the top of the list by 1 second!  That bastard!  :mob:


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: sidereal on March 14, 2008, 12:36:13 PM
Back on topic!  Which is pi.

Today is Pi day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day).  Pi minute is in about 54 minutes pacific time.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: eldaec on March 14, 2008, 12:54:23 PM
mmmm... pie....

(http://www.springville.ca.us/applefest/Images/PieContest.jpg)


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: eldaec on March 14, 2008, 12:59:21 PM
Back on topic!  Which is pi.

Today is Pi day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day).  Pi minute is in about 54 minutes pacific time.

The discussion page on that wikipedia entry is an absolute classic.

Reading wikipedia people get excitable about whether stuff like 'pi day' is notable is always good for a laugh.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: Nebu on March 14, 2008, 01:00:23 PM
Damn, Nebu beat me to the top of the list by 1 second!  That bastard!  :mob:

I think I was idle too... I was teaching at the time.  AFK FTW!


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: WayAbvPar on March 14, 2008, 01:20:30 PM
Back on topic!  Which is pi.

Today is Pi day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_Day).  Pi minute is in about 54 minutes pacific time.


Epic Fail. Today is http://www.steakandbjday.com/, n00bler.


Title: Re: The MMOG Pie
Post by: sidereal on March 14, 2008, 05:29:19 PM
Do you really want to go around celebrating a holiday invented by this guy (http://www.myspace.com/birdsey)?

 :rock_hard:  :rock: :rock_hard: