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Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Arcadian Del Sol on October 15, 2004, 06:11:19 AM I'm leaving my super duper elite secret security position with a DoD contractor to be a General Manager for Chik-Fil-A.
I love food service and customer service jobs. Yes its a huge loss in income for me, and the hours are nuttier, but I thrive at a job where people show up because they know that they're going to have fun at work. Its an odd feeling, after driving to this federal building for nine years, and putting up with nine years of bullshit and unilaterally immature management - I guess when you work in the gorilla exhibit, you can't be indignant over the feces throwing. You just have to realize one day that you're tired of having to pick up thrown monkey feces, and you need to do something different - something with other humans. So buh-bye CACI, International - hello, sweet brine chicken breasts. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Mesozoic on October 15, 2004, 06:19:22 AM ..the hell?
Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: toma levine on October 15, 2004, 06:23:11 AM If this is serious, I sincerely hope you've worked in the fast food industry previously and you know exactly what to look forward to.
Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: schild on October 15, 2004, 06:24:17 AM This shit should be on /.
I mean, if you're happy then congrats are in order...I think. If this is a joke. Don't do that, it's just too strange. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Dren on October 15, 2004, 06:30:53 AM How'd you skip fry duty? And assistant manager? You lucky bastard!
Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Dark Vengeance on October 15, 2004, 06:31:23 AM Emphasis on GENERAL, not on Manager. My expectation is that Arc has landed a job overseeing several locations. Unless I'm mistaken, he isn't actually going to be handling chicken or working a register. Back in my convenience store days, we referred to this as a district or regional manager.
I can see how this would still be a big pay cut, without necessarily taking him into the realm of wearing paper hats, plastic gloves, and earning roughly SQUAT per hour. Bring the noise. Cheers............ Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Mi_Tes on October 15, 2004, 06:52:08 AM At least you will have Sundays off - isn't Chik-Fil-a one of the only fast food restaurants that isn't open on Sundays?
Good luck, but having done food service jobs part time and summers in college, those kinds of jobs aren't like what you see in the "FISH" video of the Seattle fish market where people are having fun at work, it is pretty much the opposite, with people there just for money, and not much of that. And given any management job, know you may find yourself filling in at any other position under since you are now responsible. Hands on management is not nearly as glamorous as it looks (it is like being a kindergarten teacher for adults and all their HR issues - the lower level the employee, the more issues you have). I hope you know what you are getting into and have left open the possibility of getting your old job back in 6 months when reality takes hold. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: El Gallo on October 15, 2004, 07:06:45 AM I flipped burgers back in high school, so I have a soft spot for the industry. Be sure to hire lots of buxom high school students to work the counter.
Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Arcadian Del Sol on October 15, 2004, 07:17:37 AM points:
1. I just wanted to share a milestone among friendly company, and get your support/advice, et. al. 2. its no joke 3. General Manager of a specific franchise 4. I've been a restaurant manager before, and it was the best job I ever had. Now to clarifiy why this isn't a 'drive-thru attendant' job: Chik-Fil-A is a network of independant private businesses. The store I'm going to is owned by a lifelong friend of mine who is the outright owner. He pays the rent and he writes my paycheck. My job will be to make sure that when he's not there, he's still there - get the meaning? Its not BAD money - I'm going to make about 5k less than I do here, and I'll get a % of the profits as a monthly bonus. I realize I 'fill in' for holes in the schedule - but I do live 5 minutes away. Presently, my job is 2.5 hours away. I'll STILL be home more hours than I've ever been. I'm not saying its slacker-work - its hard work, but with the right management, a business like that CAN be fun, and people CAN care. Our best crew leader right now is 17 years old, and he's the most responsible and mature 17 year old I've ever seen. For an outfit like this to really work, you need a good owner, a good manager, and at least 2 good crew leaders - so we're 1 good hire away from having a huge success. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: schild on October 15, 2004, 07:21:11 AM Hm, maybe I should come by and order a #....uhm, yea, I don't really have the menu memorized, but I do love me some Chik-Fil-A. What location are you running (I assume it's in NoVA, DC, or MD).
And since it's serious, congrats. the Fil-A is a nicer joint than most of the other crap out there and their chicken recipes are superb. Edit: On second thought, I don't even want to know what the location is. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Signe on October 15, 2004, 07:23:10 AM When you quit your l33t job, can I have your stuff?
Edit: oops... and good luck to you! If you have to work anyway... I'm all for it being a job you enjoy! Save me a leg! Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Nebu on October 15, 2004, 07:24:41 AM The goal all of us have is to work at a job we like getting up for in the morning. If this is that for you Arc, then I say it's a great move. Making a little less cash is nothing if you're going to be happier in the rest of your life. I personally turned down a job a couple of years back that paid over double what I currently make because the atmosphere would have made me insane. It's all about what you value in life.
I guess the cliche is that you can't put a price on happiness. Sounds to me like you have made a solid move. The only concern that I'd have is having a friend as a boss. That can either be a great or nightmare situation without much room in the middle. In any event, good luck! The transitions in life can be a lot of fun. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Jayce on October 15, 2004, 07:29:16 AM Funny, I never saw you as a DoD type. That makes your writings for CGW et al even more impressive (I thought you were a journalist type for some reason).
I haven't always agreed with your opinions on ... well, almost everything, but I respect someone who takes a pay cut to do something they love. I had a cinema manager job in college and it was one of my favorite jobs too. Fortunately my post-grad job is just as fulfilling, so I don't have to agonize over whether I should think about a similar move ;) So to summarize, fame and renown (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=kudos&searchmode=none) to you for making the move. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Dren on October 15, 2004, 07:29:43 AM Quote from: Dren How'd you skip fry duty? And assistant manager? You lucky bastard! I wasn't joking just in case you thought I was Arc. Well, ok the first part was a joke (from Coming to America.) The last part I truly meant. Good luck to you. As long as you can provide for you and yours AND you actually enjoy yourself, you are in the chips. (or fries in this case.) Now that you've given more details it also sounds like something you could turn into much more. I'd try to learn the biz from your friend and start your own store once you get the experience and the cash. If you are getting along with your friend, make it a joint business opportunity. Sounds good to me. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Soukyan on October 15, 2004, 07:33:38 AM Congrats Arc!
P.S. Eat Mor Chiken Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: DarkDryad on October 15, 2004, 07:39:31 AM As a supar secret gubbment contractor who works 4.5 hrs from home I can fully understand your logic. I'm actually looking for something else in my pay range as well. Good on ya brotha.
Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Jayce on October 15, 2004, 07:43:47 AM Quote from: Soukyan Congrats Arc! P.S. Eat Mor Chiken Oh yeah, thanks for bringing this up. One request, for what it's worth: THE COWS ARE PLAYED OUT. Talk the national advertising people into coming up with something fresh. Ok, thanks, just had to get that off my chest. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Arcadian Del Sol on October 15, 2004, 07:48:20 AM in 24 months, a new 'stand alone' unit is being build 5 blocks away. The golden rule when it comes to awarding new franchises is when a present owner is going to be impacted by a new location, that owner gets 'first dibs' and we both want the new unit BADLY.
But if we dont get it, we're going to find something else. Somebody in the thread said they pegged me as a journalist instead of a DoD IT tech based on my writing - and not to self-indulge here in this very self-indulgent thread, but I have a story I'd like to share... I was working at a local mall many many years ago and the bookstore down the hallway was having a book signing by a well known fantasy fiction novelist. Because I worked the mall, it was pretty easy to get early in line - but when the biggest snowstorm in 8 years hit that morning, I WAS the line. So I got several books signed, and this author was kind enough to invite me to hang around and talk about his books, what I thought of the ongoing storylines, and when he asked me if I had aspirations to be a writer and I said, "i dunno, maybe" he gave me one of the most important rap sessions of my life. He said, and I paraphrase because my memory fails me: Quote "The difference between being a writer, and being a successful writer is very narrow. A writer will eat peanut-butter sandwiches for dinner, but a successful writer will eat tuna sandwiches for dinner on Sundays. So the question is, other than living in a cardboard box and eating peanut butter to survive, how can anyone be a writer? They take jobs as clerks, as waitresses, they sweep floors and they drive trucks. They deliver pizza and they find work as subtitute teachers - they even take jobs working at the local shopping mall. "When I do book signings or bookTV spots, people ask me how to break into the writing business, and I guess I'm surprised because its really so uncomplicated that I'm afraid to let the cat out of the bag - but I tell them, the key to being published as a writer, is to be a good writer - and the key to being a good writer, is to read good books. Grammer skills and spellings skills, of course - and its assumed those are already learned, but ultimately, no degree in literature or journalism is going to get you a four book deal - the only way to get a book deal is to simply write a good book. No book gets published because someone says, "I would like to write a good book." They get published because someone raises a hand and says, "I have written a good book." So you want to be a writer? Go down the mall to a card shop and buy yourself a journal, a pencil, and a pencil sharpener - when the book is out of pages, go back and buy another one. If you're not asleep, write something. If you're not at the dentist getting a tooth drilled, write something - write until you absolutely cannot write another word because one of two thing will happen - you'll either find it tedious and boring and you'll quit, or you'll get addicted to it. If you find it tedious, then you've just saved yourself from a lot of wasted time. If you find yourself addicted, well, I share your pain and I wish you all the success in the world." So I asked him more about the 'working at the mall and waiting tables part' and specifically, asked why, just buying a journal and a pencil makes a store clerk into a writer... Quote Never let others define you. Tell them what your definition is. Never be defined by what you do. Be defined by what you are. The guy who busses tables at Shoneys to pay for guitar strings for his band that plays bars on weekends isn't a bus-boy: he's a musician. The guy who works at the supermarket bagging groceries and goes to school at night to be a doctor isn't a bag boy - he's a med student. Your paycheck isn't who you are, its how you pay your bills, and nothing more. That writer was Robert Salvatore, and in the space of about 15 minutes, he made a profound change in my life. From that moment on, I've always considered myself a writer, and never defined myself by what I did to pay the mortgage. My paycheck is not who I am, its just how I pay my bills - and nothing more. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Paelos on October 15, 2004, 07:50:35 AM I have a spot in my heart of the Chik-Fil-A people since they are headquartered in my home town of Atlanta. Oh, and because I get breakfast biscuits there every weekend.
Chicken biscuits r0xx0r my b0xx0rs! Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Sky on October 15, 2004, 08:53:09 AM Hey, I'm glad you're moving on to something that makes you happier, it's something everyone should consider occasionally. Being happy trumps just about everything else, in my book.
But I have to ask....do you have to wear a hat? :p Quote The guy who busses tables at Shoneys to pay for guitar strings for his band that plays bars on weekends isn't a bus-boy: he's a musician. Words of wisdom. 11 years after the death of my professional music career, I still refer to myself as a musician when someone asks. The arts are like that, they are in your blood, or they probably never will be. And the only way you'll know is to jump in and try for a couple years. I can also empathize with looking for equitable re-employment, state and county budget cuts are about to render me unemployed (all libraries in the country have been slashed 25% across the board). Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: personman on October 15, 2004, 08:54:11 AM Brave move, and I wish you the best. Follow your bliss, no matter how many hollow fatgrams may be entailed... :-)
Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Fargull on October 15, 2004, 09:04:34 AM I have had the pleasure of sitting in on several panels that Bob was talking in and the part about being who you are is spot on from what I remember. The only damn thing to strike me strange was his accent, I was just not prepared for it.
Robert Jordan is another writer I have had the pleasure of sitting on a panel with, he acts like a DI untill his wife is around.... Congratz, damn, if I could find a wait job paying what I make now I would be all over it. Never had more pussy than when I was waiting tables... Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: stray on October 15, 2004, 09:19:44 AM Quote from: Sky Words of wisdom. 11 years after the death of my professional music career, I still refer to myself as a musician when someone asks. The arts are like that, they are in your blood, or they probably never will be. And the only way you'll know is to jump in and try for a couple years. I can also empathize with looking for equitable re-employment, state and county budget cuts are about to render me unemployed (all libraries in the country have been slashed 25% across the board). Good luck to you too, man. My old man works in a library, but he's about to leave too. Would you rather work in a totally unrelated job, or something still slightly music-oriented? I highly doubt that I'm going to be a rockstar or something, but I get some good work making royalty free music and such for my bro's web design/multimedia business. It keeps me happy, at least more than something non-music related. Same goes for acting. I'm still shooting for stars there, but I'll take working in, say, a "theater-themed" restaurant, rather than fast food. You went to sound engineering school too, right? You're probably a lot more qualified than I am for music and sound work. Have you looked much? Or can you move out of state to do it? Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: kaid on October 15, 2004, 09:23:37 AM Good luck with the new job. Heck the time savings from the commute ALONE would justify the move in my mind. Even if you work nuttier hours I would much rather be at work doing something rather than stuck in a car wasting my time for that much of the day.
And with gas prices/car wear the way they are heck the pay rates probably come out to be a wash. Kaid Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: WayAbvPar on October 15, 2004, 09:27:58 AM Quote I realize I 'fill in' for holes in the schedule - but I do live 5 minutes away. Presently, my job is 2.5 hours away. IMO, that more than makes up for the 5k difference in salary. Having an extra 10+ hours a week of leisure time is a GOOD THING. I am resisting the urge to make a snarky comment about Salvatore. Just pretend I said something unkind but amusing here =) Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: AOFanboi on October 15, 2004, 09:30:24 AM Quote from: Paelos I have a spot in my heart of the Chik-Fil-A people since they are headquartered in my home town of Atlanta. So, you also drink Coca-Cola and watch CNN, then? :) Congrats to AdS for escaping Purgatory. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Paelos on October 15, 2004, 09:35:18 AM Quote from: AOFanboi Quote from: Paelos I have a spot in my heart of the Chik-Fil-A people since they are headquartered in my home town of Atlanta. So, you also drink Coca-Cola and watch CNN, then? :) Congrats to AdS for escaping Purgatory. Coke? Damn right I do. CNN? Only if I have to. My cold republican heart likes the easy listening tones of FoxNews. It's your network for evil. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: ArtificialKid on October 15, 2004, 10:17:25 AM Quote from: WayAbvPar I am resisting the urge to make a snarky comment about Salvatore. Just pretend I said something unkind but amusing here =) Ya me too. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Jayce on October 15, 2004, 10:23:38 AM Quote Presently, my job is 2.5 hours away. Wow, I missed that edit. Speaking as someone who moved halfway across the country to (among other reasons) get away from Houston's 1 hour commute, I think you will be MUCH MUCH happier if only for that. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Riggswolfe on October 15, 2004, 10:57:28 AM I am glad to hear you found a job you enjoy. I'm in a job that isn't as bad as I feared it would be but who knows, a year from now I may be in your shoes. Keep us informed.
BTW, if you ever need someone to test new Chik-Fila products I'm around. Your guys food rocks compared to most other fast food Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Joe on October 15, 2004, 11:05:18 AM Congratulations, Arc. Realistically, are you really losing much? A 5 hour commute (though probably not by car, I'll assume) can't be much cheaper than $5k yearly, no?
Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Sky on October 15, 2004, 11:39:09 AM Quote Have you looked much? Or can you move out of state to do it? Right now I'm waiting to see how the budget falls out. I've put together plans for a nice little ranch on which I'll have a nice little studio and do freelance work in the area, if I keep the job. If not, I'm keeping all options open. I'm downloading the free version of ProTools this weekend and getting reacquainted with computer-based recording, I haven't worked on mixing software since 1992 ;) nor touched a board since 1994 or early 95, so I'm pretty damned rusty (and only 3 semesters in music school before band pressures forced a move up the coast to Frisco). The most attractive option I'm considering right now is heading up to Potsdam to the Berklee School of Music and finishing off my studio engineering degree and then whoring myself out to the entertainment industry (including game developers). Sorry for the mini-derail, Arc. The morlock in me, I guess! Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Polysorbate80 on October 15, 2004, 11:40:05 AM Man, I live directly across the street from a Jack-In-The-Box, but I still wouldn't work there no matter *how* fast the commute is...
Just kidding, congrats :) (Actually, my job is only about 3 blocks further away, anyhoo. Although, with traffic, it's about a 10-minute walk. Goddamn college towns; several thousand commuters, and everyone's so damn busy trying to beat the traffic by avoiding the main streets that it's actually faster to drive on those main roads because everyone's avoiding them. So much for higher edumacation teaching people to think...) Title: Could do worse than Chik-Fil-A Post by: AlteredOne on October 15, 2004, 11:50:10 AM From what I've seen, Chik-Fil-A is the upper tier of fast food. Don't know how their franchise model works, but I've never had a negative experience at a Chik-Fil-A, so they must be doing something right with quality control. Hardee's is the absolute worst, and KFC is pretty miserable too. I've never found a badly kept Chik-Fil-A with nasty bathrooms and such, and the food always seems fresh and juicy.
So there ya go, sounds like it might just beat the hell out of working for a nefarious faceless government military contractor. You can look at all those happy children munching on chik nuggets, and feel a sense of power over their culinary destiny! Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: personman on October 15, 2004, 11:57:46 AM I think it's just the idea of fast fried food - bleh. I used to do a lot of long-term projects in Atlanta and immediately got sick of CFA as everyone else on my teams felt compelled to go everyday for lunch.
I liked Atlanta for the people - in all other respects it made me think of a prettier version of Houston dropped into East Texas. I love East Texas but I hate Houston passionately. (I've learned three times the hard way it's the wrong town to be in when the economy tanks) Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: WayAbvPar on October 15, 2004, 12:01:58 PM WTF is Chik-Fil-A anyway? Never heard of 'em. I am guessing it is an Eastern Seaboard/Deep South thing? Can anyone draw any parallels to something us Left Coasters might be familiar with?
Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Fargull on October 15, 2004, 12:07:11 PM Hmm...
They are famous for this Ad Campaign (http://www.chickfilapressroom.com/images/eatmorchikin/3-cows.jpg)... I do believe they are more of a south-southeastern chain. No hamburger. All christian. All chicken... Title: Oh yeah, Christian Post by: AlteredOne on October 15, 2004, 12:15:01 PM I hadn't given it much thought, but CFA is not open on Sundays. And yeah they're probably mainly Southeastern, there are tons here in North Carolina.
Title: Re: Oh yeah, Christian Post by: Mi_Tes on October 15, 2004, 12:22:31 PM Quote from: AlteredOne I hadn't given it much thought, but CFA is not open on Sundays. And yeah they're probably mainly Southeastern, there are tons here in North Carolina. Closed Sundays. It's part of the Chick-fil-AŽ recipe. Admittedly, closing all of our restaurants every Sunday makes us a rarity in this day and age. But it's a little habit that has always served us well, so we're planning to stick with it. Our founder, Truett Cathy, wanted to ensure that every Chick-fil-A employee and restaurant operator had an opportunity to worship, spend time with family and friends or just plain rest from the work week. Made sense then, still makes sense now. (http://www.chickfila.com/Closed.asp) Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Paelos on October 15, 2004, 12:23:10 PM Here's a link to their company profile (http://www.oracle.com/pls/cis/Profiles.print_html?p_profile_id=3127)
Currently they operate 950 restaurants in 34 states, with the most density in the SW, South, and some in the NE. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Morfiend on October 15, 2004, 12:30:54 PM Can i have yur stuffz?
Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Signe on October 15, 2004, 12:52:29 PM Quote from: Morphiend Can i have yur stuffz? I asked first, damn you. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Abagadro on October 15, 2004, 01:09:34 PM Quote All christian. All chicken... This should be its new national tag line. Personally, I would need a gun to my head to go back into the fast food industry. Pure hell. But, I admire the switch. It takes guts. I just did the same thing (sort of). I just jetisoned my 8 year legal career, quit my firm and sold back my shares. Going back to school to get a Ph.D. Why? Who knows. Was sick of the other shit so why not. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Paelos on October 15, 2004, 01:17:46 PM Quote from: Abagadro Quote All christian. All chicken... This should be its new national tag line. Personally, I would need a gun to my head to go back into the fast food industry. Pure hell. But, I admire the switch. It takes guts. I just did the same thing (sort of). I just jetisoned my 8 year legal career, quit my firm and sold back my shares. Going back to school to get a Ph.D. Why? Who knows. Was sick of the other shit so why not. There are some people who go to college for 7 years, we call them doctors. (http://www-tech.mit.edu/V115/N15/tommy.gif) Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Abagadro on October 15, 2004, 01:30:12 PM Technically this will be my second doctorate with my J.D. I look forward to being wildly overeducated and underemployed in the near future.
Hold open the pickle station for me Arc. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Fargull on October 15, 2004, 02:01:36 PM Quote from: Abagadro But, I admire the switch. It takes guts. I just did the same thing (sort of). I just jetisoned my 8 year legal career, quit my firm and sold back my shares. Going back to school to get a Ph.D. Why? Who knows. Was sick of the other shit so why not. Girl I work with was a young lawyer with a budding career when the stress caused a pulminary event and she ended up having open heart. Now where I work is not stress free, but I want her on my side of the table whenever an arguement over how something should work or doesn't is tabled. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Triforcer on October 15, 2004, 04:23:28 PM Good for you Arc...life is way, way too short to spend the whole of it doing something you dislike. When you can meet your responsibility to family and still find something you love to do, you win.
P.S. I'm glad R.A. Salvatore inspired you, but if you ever create a character as soul-crushingly hackneyed as Drizzt I'm pretty sure you could legally be beaten about the head with a sack of doorknobs in several states. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Jayce on October 15, 2004, 05:31:30 PM Quote from: Triforcer a character as soul-crushingly hackneyed as Drizzt I'm pretty sure you could legally be beaten about the head with a sack of doorknobs in several states. I think the original Drizzt was just a good character. Subsequent generations of fanbois did the hackneying. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Merusk on October 15, 2004, 06:34:05 PM Wow Arc. Big change, wish you all the best & lots of luck. Is the $5k drop in salary before or after your monly profit bonus? If before, hell, you stand to do better this way I'd think.
Quote from: Abagadro But, I admire the switch. It takes guts. I just did the same thing (sort of). I just jetisoned my 8 year legal career, quit my firm and sold back my shares. Going back to school to get a Ph.D. Why? Who knows. Was sick of the other shit so why not. Hmm.. Doctor unfrozen caveman lawyer . A whole new angle! Quote from: Jayce Quote from: Triforcer a character as soul-crushingly hackneyed as Drizzt I'm pretty sure you could legally be beaten about the head with a sack of doorknobs in several states. I think the original Drizzt was just a good character. Subsequent generations of fanbois did the hackneying. Yes. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: HaemishM on October 19, 2004, 12:30:41 PM Working at something you enjoy for less money is always a much wiser decision than just taking the money because it's there. Being broke has taught me that money is fairly easy to make, even if it's not as much money as you'd like to make. As long as you aren't a complete moron, you can always make money.
As for Chick-Fil-A, the employees must be having fun. Years ago, when I worked in the mall, there was a CFA there. There always seemed to be more employees behind the counter just talking and laughing than actually cooking or serving the food. They had fun; I just wanted my peanut-oil fried sandwich. Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Ookii on October 19, 2004, 12:45:42 PM Can I have your security clearance??
Title: After 9 years, I get a new job Post by: Fraeg on October 20, 2004, 11:50:33 AM /cheers
Good to see someone making changes in their life that will ultimately make them much happier. Hmm I am looking forward to some rather humorous anecdotes on your site re: your new career. -nat |