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http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/wowmini/en/

Oh, this is just pure joy.  A WoW tabletop miniatures game.  Fan-bloody-tastic  :awesome_for_real:

Can I AFK camp AV for phat lewt?  :awesome_for_real:

If Blizzard really wants to mess with GW, all they have to do is price their miniatures about 10% below the WARHAMS going rate.

Next up - Starcraft tabletop with space marines vs tyranid zerg.  :awesome_for_real:

I like that the first three posts all end in  :awesome_for_real:.

Well, four now.  :awesome_for_real:

No wai! This has nothing to do with Warhammer - Blizzard has the most original ideas ever.  :awesome_for_real:

Not the same market :oh_i_see:

Can I solo any of the campaigns?   :uhrr:

Err... isn't that just playing with your dollies?

Action figures!

I want to cover my desk in peons and have BS player on auto-repeat with an MP3 that just repeats "oooooh k, yes boss, i'll get right on that."

Thought they had that one out already.

(http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20050207.jpg)

lol, i own the board game...and that rules not in there, lol. But its funny.

Reading the FAQ, it sounds more like Heroclix than Warhammer.

Prepainted minis, 1-5 characters per side etc.

Interestingly though the figures are designed and 'paint detailed' by Mike McVey (http://www.studiomcvey.com/). Those of you as beardy as I am will remember him as GW's painting wunderkind who went on to be a sculptor before leaving GW at around the same time that I did.

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Yes, i know. The grammar snake and spelling skunk are at constant odds with me. Thanks for bringing it up.   :cry2:

I must report that the Grammar Snake has just resigned in disgust.  We are actively seeking a replacement snake.

I'm sorry.

According to the main WoW page, there will be rules to raid with the miniatures.

...

 :ye_gods:

I'll probably get some so my Decepticons have some gnomes to step on.  :grin:

Hopefully they remembered to put option for Master Looter in, just imagine all the ninja drama otherwise.

How about a grammar & spelling monkey. I think I posted one in another thread.

He seems like a double threat. And he works for bananas.

Grammar midwife: it's a contraction!

Does the G&S monkey fling poo?  If so, I vote yes!

As long as all the figurines can fit in one square (hex?), like they do in-game when people raid some of the boss encounters.

If it's small-scale (meaning individual rather than squad activation, a la Mordheim) and the minis cost less than a testicle and a half each (a la GW) I will setup a separate checking account to pay for an army right now.

Exactly.

Even to this day I am compelled to stop in front of GW stores and oogle the miniatures on display, before remembering that I also need money to eat, and that my attempts to paint the minatures were  :ye_gods:

I have always preferred inaction figures.

(http://www.jpbenterprise.com/Pictures/D0086-ClerksBobIAFB.jpg)

GODDAMIT BLIZZARD, JUST TAKE ALL MY DAMN MONEY AND TIME!  I DON'T NEED TO EAT OR OR HAVE A LIFE!

hehe I shouted on teh intarwebs

I'm not sure this is a good idea. I think anybody who's going to buy this is probably already broke from the card game.

That's why God made credit cards.  :ye_gods:

This is another step in the insidious monkey plot to assume control of the site!

Edit:

(http://services.tucows.com/developers/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/language_war_monkey_knife_fight.jpg)

So odds on a GW lawsuit after all these years since Blizz just jumped in the toy soldier pool?

2 thread for the price of 1. Combined with that necro-post, this has been quite the day for readers everywhere.

Too late.

I've never found any concrete information that GW actually ever sued Blizzard for IP infringement. A lot of people on the intertubes SAY that GW did it but there doesn't seem to be one whit of proof.

I think the popular rumor is Blizz developed on their own, or on part of GW, warcraft and were then turned down, or GW backed out, and they renamed stuff and released it.

Right, which I've heard as well. But there's never, to my knowledge, been a lawsuit. It probably won't happen. I'm just tossing out that on the slim chance it did I wouldn't be surprised. Company with their back against the wall financially pulls the trigger when something 90% like their stuff visually comes out and invades their core business? Just saying...

To my knowledge there never was a lawsuit, nor any suggestion of one.
As to the popular rumour that Warcraft was originally intended to be a Warhammer RTS and that Blizz had to remove GW's IP at the last minute, I really don't know. It is a persistent rumour and I remember asking Andy Jones about it years ago (AJ was the licencing manager for GW), I didn't get a conclusive answer though.

Unless some old time Blizzard devs want to come out of the woodwork, I doubt it will ever be proven one way or the other.

I can't believe no one's posted this yet.

(http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2006/20060410.jpg)

One of my Favs. I want to get the t-shirt with it on it.

Anyone else think those things are hideously ugly?

The cartoons? I do, yes.

Err, what?

And now WoWtards will play with miniatures and think Blizzard invented them too.  :oh_i_see:

They didn't?

It's been said before but these won't hit the same market at all. Prepainted preassembled minis for a small scale battle just aren't in the same league as unpainted multipart models for large-scale battles, and this won't affect GW any more than heroclix or battletech or DnD minis did. Also, the overall miniature quality is pretty unimpressive.

Saying these are unimpressive and liking the graphics in WoW is a pretty lol situation to me. These look like 1:1 copies of the WoW models. Which is to say, even polygon (or lack thereof) is accounted for.

Just shows you how lowtech that shit is when it's put into a tangible form.

In fact, having looked at them again, the models look better than their in-game counterparts.

Unfortunately, still completely ugly.

Except that those things were and are competition? I know people firsthand who simply didn't have time to paint miniatures anymore so got their toys on a chessboard fix with the games you just mentioned. Hell, go to any GW focused messageboard and the great hope AND fear (depending on who you ask) is that GW makes a move to pre-painted

Hell, I'm still kinda pissed they went to plastic models. :angryfist:

I would think that GW would be happy about this - there's going to be some part of those 10 million WoW subscribers that get introduced to minature battles via WoW minatures.  Seems like GW could use a few new customers.

Not sure if there's much to be happy about for them... i.e. how many MMOs got new subscribers out of 10 mil. WoW players, large part of which got introduced to MMOs via said WoW?

Or how many people gave up miniatures and tabletop for the instant gratification of MMOs. I don't think it's a coincidence that GW's stock dropped and tabletop games across the board had sales drops at the same time that MMOs became the Big Entertainment Thing.

Fuck that. Plastic is easier to assemble and mod.

True.


But its rather easy to make the connection just by looking at the two products. Even the art style...

In comparison the line of action figures based off WoW characters looks great, and while they are larger it's easy to see that just increasing the amount of detail (turning some of the texture detail into actual geometry) makes them stand out a lot better.


Heroclix type stuff is great for people who are transitioning from MtG to miniatures or something like that but there's just a vast difference between the time investment and depth of gameplay between those and games like Warhammer. Also, most GW focused messageboards are full of mouthbreathing idiots, and that's really not an exaggeration at all.

And besides, it's not like the WH40k set is ignoring eBay. One buddy of mine makes all his gaming cash on painting miniatures. Five other buddies spend all their gaming cash on painted miniatures.

The WoW thing is different.

This isn't really competing with GW.

The main people who have something to potentially worry about here IMO:

www.wizards.com/minis

The games market is not necessarily divided into tabletop gamers and computer gamers, as the intersection between both is quite big. It's the gamer, having a hobby, like soccer or tennis, who wants to have fun, sharing his hobby with others. A MMO has the advantage of high accessibility, as you don't need a schedule to meet others in RL. You can just go online and start playing.
A fast food table top, like the Blizzard one, can introduce players into the table top world and is going to be more for the good of GW, then to the bad. MMO in general took their share of the gamers community (market), and let the table top games suffer from that...that's were the collapse of table top games started....of course the mighty TCG shit as well took a good portion of it.