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Title: New PC Build
Post by: NiX on January 06, 2008, 01:59:11 AM
Jist: I need a new CHEAPish PC. I have parts to move over, so I don't need to buy everything.

Things I need:

Case
CPU
Mobo
PSU
RAM

I don't need cutting edge. Right now I'm running an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ w/ 2GB RAM and an 8800GT and haven't had many problems, but the system is starting to age and shows it. Suggestions? Please use NCIX or Canadacomputers for listing. Newegg doesn't ship up here and we don't get the crazy stock in any of our stores that you get from them.


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: SnakeCharmer on January 06, 2008, 07:43:42 AM
Quad core barebones for 564.97 + shipping from Tiger Direct (http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3517497&Sku=P450-9102%20J)

Edited:  From the Canadian Tiger Direct website


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Trippy on January 06, 2008, 10:58:57 AM
Define "cheapish".


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: LanTheWarder on January 06, 2008, 11:15:04 AM
I'll piggy back on your thread as well. I have around a thousand to spend on a computer over the next three months or so.

I have already picked up the following a few months ago when I though I was going to be building it but fund ran out and Christmas happened.

PSU Corsair HX520W
Some Dual Layer DVD Burner
Apex X-Cruiser Case

I need CPU, Ram, Video, Motherboard, Hard Drive and anything else inside the machine I might have left out. I don't overclock. This machine is used for everything from Photo Editing and Web Design to Gaming in all regards if that really makes a difference. When I was originally looking I was going to put together an E6600 machine because it was the best bang for the buck but I am sure that has changed a ton since then.

I currently have an AMD 64 3200+ 2 gigs of Ram and a PCIE Radeon X800 and it's not cutting it. Which has lead to me playing my Xbox a whole lot more than I used to.

Thank you ahead of time for any suggestions.


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Trippy on January 06, 2008, 11:23:02 AM
Start a new thread. It's going to be too confusing cause NiX needs parts sold through Canadian retailers.

Also, need a BUDGET! Asking for build advice without a budget is useless.


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: NiX on January 06, 2008, 12:41:40 PM
~$500 CDN. That barebones is nice, but I always prefer to build it myself. Don't ask.


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Soukyan on January 06, 2008, 01:03:14 PM
That barebones is decent. I was considering it as well, but a friend pointed out that if I am not doing SLI, then I could save 40 or 50 bucks on the motherboard.


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Trippy on January 06, 2008, 01:32:42 PM
Do you need Windows?


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: NiX on January 06, 2008, 02:19:24 PM
Nope.


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Trippy on January 06, 2008, 02:36:49 PM
Well if you like that barebones you can take it apart and put it back together again :awesome_for_real:

Otherwise something like this would fit your budget:

E6750 $206.99
http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=014834&cid=CPU.84

ASUS P5K SE $114.43
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25139&vpn=P5K-SE&manufacture=ASUS

Corsair XMS2 DHX 2048MB Dual Channel PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB) $44.97 (after rebate)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3089875&sku=C13-6076

Antec Sonata 3 $123.40
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=24294&vpn=SONATA%20III%20500&manufacture=ANTEC

If you were willing to go over $500 to $540 you could throw this in:

Sunbeam Tuniq Tower 120 $49.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17867&vpn=T-120&manufacture=Sunbeam


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Strazos on January 06, 2008, 02:49:00 PM
And to think my rig was $1300 a few years ago.  :|


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: NiX on January 06, 2008, 02:53:13 PM
Stupid question: That supports IDE drives, right?


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Trippy on January 06, 2008, 03:04:40 PM
It has only one IDE connector on the motherboard so it supports 2 IDE drives.


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: NiX on January 06, 2008, 03:46:15 PM
Eh, I don't use my DVD drive anyway.


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: MrHat on January 06, 2008, 03:51:41 PM
Eh, I don't use my DVD drive anyway.

My SATA DVD-RW drive was like $30 bucks.


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: NiX on January 06, 2008, 03:59:00 PM
You're making this harder, Hat! MUCH HARDER!


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Mortriden on January 08, 2008, 10:26:35 AM
Late to the party, but my mobo was the next step up from the one Trippy listed and it rocks all kinds of socks.  The TT cooler is awesome as well, but the weight and size on the thing is just tremendous.  Make sure your case has room and don't muff the instalation. 


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: NiX on January 09, 2008, 01:30:45 AM
So I went looking at Canada Computers and changed a couple things. I don't do the rebate thing cause they never work out from Canada Computers for some odd reason. Anyway, here's what I came up with and added questions/notes beside the product names...

E6550 (How does this compare to my 3700+? Does it crush it beat it?) - $180.99
http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=014823&cid=CPU.84 (http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=014823&cid=CPU.84)

Asus P5K-SE (What about this? (http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=015328&cid=MB.157) Is it a lot worse? I don't overclock and never will, so I don't need a fancy MoBo that ensures all that crap.) - $109.99
http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=014629&cid=MB.157 (http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=014629&cid=MB.157)

Corsair XMS2 2GB (2x1GB) - $82.99 (Rebate - $47.99)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=013891&cid=RAM.346.307 (http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=013891&cid=RAM.346.307)

Antec Sonata III - $109.99
http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=016276&cid=CS.664 (http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=016276&cid=CS.664)

It comes out a lot cheaper because I'm not paying for shipping from 2 different places. I can just walk into Canada Computers and buy all of this. Comments?


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Slayerik on January 09, 2008, 11:41:42 AM
Asus make great boards. I have been buying them the last 10+ years and can't say I have one complaint, besides having one chipset fan take a shit on me after like a couple months. Those fans seem pretty cheap. But Asus is as solid as you can get IMO.


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Trippy on January 09, 2008, 04:24:09 PM
E6550 (How does this compare to my 3700+? Does it crush it beat it?) - $180.99
http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=014823&cid=CPU.84 (http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=014823&cid=CPU.84)
Use this to compare:

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html

Quote
Asus P5K-SE (What about this? (http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=015328&cid=MB.157) Is it a lot worse? I don't overclock and never will, so I don't need a fancy MoBo that ensures all that crap.) - $109.99
http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=014629&cid=MB.157 (http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=014629&cid=MB.157)
Is that a lot worse than what?


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: NiX on January 09, 2008, 04:28:43 PM
Compared to the Asus P5K-SE


Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Trippy on January 09, 2008, 04:44:15 PM
The G31 is the P31 with onboard video. I.e. it's a gimpier version of the P35 with onboard video you aren't going to use. In particular the P31/G31 does not officially support a FSB of 1333 MHz so ASUS has had to hack their BIOS to support it. I would avoid it.