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What we need is people joining f13 corp and chat, and really showing some initiative to learn to pew pew. Sign your name here, say you want to join us/help. You lurkers/posters around here take some time out from your big alliances and stop by for some fighting with an alt of yours. 


Sunday, 4pm EST (21:00 GMT, eve time): F13 Wolfpack Hunt (time changed to be more Euro Friendly)

Should be able to fit: Afterburner or Microwarpdrive (preferred)
Warp Disruptor
Any one of these: Statis Webifier , Tracking Disruptor , Remote Sensor Dampener, ECM
Guns or missiles

Feel free to ask for a PVP fit for your ships, one of us will have one for you.

Bring a frigate or a cruiser anything you want. Expect it to go boom by the end of the night. I'll hook people up with some isk to cover loses. Please, post saying if you are going to come help...as well as your relative experience level...Come on peeps step on up!


(http://www.eve-online.com/bitmaps/icons/itemdb/shiptypes/64_64/587.png)Slayerik - Rifter or Stabber - Experienced in small gangs, not the best scout/scanner
(http://www.eve-online.com/bitmaps/icons/itemdb/shiptypes/64_64/594.png)Thrawn - Noob in an Incursus :)
(http://www.eve-online.com/bitmaps/icons/itemdb/shiptypes/64_64/627.png)Endie - Experienced : Blasterax
(http://www.eve-online.com/bitmaps/icons/itemdb/shiptypes/64_64/632.png)Bhodi - Noob: Blackbird (not total noob because you at least know your role!)
(http://www.eve-online.com/bitmaps/icons/itemdb/shiptypes/64_64/602.png)Chenghiz - Frigate :)
(http://www.eve-online.com/bitmaps/icons/itemdb/shiptypes/64_64/629.png)Dwindle - Experienced, will be flying something Minmatar  I assume
(http://www.eve-online.com/bitmaps/icons/itemdb/shiptypes/64_64/627.png)Vedi - Thorax - played for a while, but limited PvP experience
(http://www.eve-online.com/bitmaps/icons/itemdb/shiptypes/64_64/24698.png)Slapshot76 - Unknown - Gang Experience (I'm making you fly a bait Drake bro)
(http://www.eve-online.com/bitmaps/icons/itemdb/shiptypes/64_64/594.png)Drogo - Noob in an Incursus :)
(http://www.eve-online.com/bitmaps/icons/itemdb/shiptypes/64_64/22456.png)Sparky - Dictor Alt FTW

I'd definitely go, but I'll be at the Giants vs. Redskins game.

Thrawn - Experianced in running level 1 missions and accepting ISK handouts.

I'll look into it but I'm not sure if I'll be able to handle a Microwarpdrive before Sunday.  But I can just toss an afterburner and a couple standard missile launchers on my Badger II and use that for PvP right?

I can come, and i will come.  I'll be trying out my thorax, with web, point and MWD, blaster fit for decent damage.

My experience level is high so long as we get another 149 people.  Otherwise only moderate :)

You will need: Navigation IV , Afterburner IV , High speed Manuevering I ...thats like 3 days of training tops...navigation skills are always good, on any ship :)

You will need Electronics 3 for propulsion jamming as well.

I'll be flying a blackbird if someone will buy it for me or cover the platinum insurance or whatever. Total Noob.

I'll have high speed maneuvering by tomorrow. I have propulsion jamming and EW 2, I can fit webs, disrupters, dampeners, ECM if someone decides we'd rather have a tackler.

3x Assault Launchers (kin loaded, exp and EM in hold) (if I can't fit, these are the first to go)
1x Smartbomb (for drones)

5x 'Compulsive' Multispec jammers (maybe just jammer 1s)
1x Supplemental Scanning CPU

1x 'Compulsive' Signal Distortion Amp
1x 800mm or 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plates depending on fit capability.

Tactic: lag behind main group, warp in at 70, piss them off by keeping the most dangerous locked down, stay aligned, keep at range, book out if I see people come for me because I'm tin foil. No idea how the ECM actually *works* but I guess I'll find out.

I should be able to fit that, or something very close to that. I should have engineering and electronics IV by Sunday as well. I need the scanning cpu, my targeting sucks right now. For some reason, quickfit doesn't seem to import my XML correctly, it says ithas an error, both from the evemon download and directly from the website.

I can most likely come in a tackling frigate. No MWD but I can fit an AB and so on. Actually I might be able to MWD too, we'll see.

edit: no MWD

You're way better fitting racial jammers.  Yes, it can be tricky remembering which ship is which race, but it's good practice and someone will shout it out if you ask (or find a chart).  The strength of a racial jammer against the correct target is waaay higher.

Also, I use eft instead of quickfit, myself.

I think you'll cap out pretty quick with multispecs. Try a mix of gallente and caldari facials and one multi. Double check EFT or Quickfit to make sure I'm remembering right.

Cap is also an issue, though with a BB and since they cut the cap needs for jammers by 40% it's not like it used to be.

If there are a few new players then let me know roughly where we'll be based and I'll haul up a bunch of ships and fittings from my alt's corp.  I have a frigate cache with a hundred or so ships there right now for my newer pvping members, together with thousands of modules and hundreds of thousands of ammo, so I can provide decent remounts for anyone who needs them to get back into a fight quickly.

So you coming or what Dwindle? :)

This is presumably a joke, but GF ran a battlebadger op a couple of months ago which locked down a carrier and might just have had the dps to finish it, although if i remember rightly, some other people turned up (I think it was Tri?) and finished it off.

Location? I'm coming with my main or not at all.

The only f13 office I know of is olo. So I guess that is as good a place as any to form.

So should I make sure to have extra turrets and jammers and guns and whatnot sitting at the f13 office to get myself back in space after I go boom?  This is all new to me, I can't wait to get blown up in a blaze of lasers and missles while mooning a battleship out my cockpit window.

Previous to our little adventure, I will be making people check that they have updated clones so that if they get podded they wont lose skill points. We will also set our clones to a common place, somewhat near the action.

Having a couple outfitted frigates or cruisers isn't a horrible idea.


My other idea, is quite a profitable one. It involves killing AFK haulers in High sec, though some people may have some moral problems with it :)

You want Uedema. It's the only .5 security system between Jita and Rens. Those extra few seconds before Concord shows up make a difference. :)

We're playing EvE, not WoW.  AFK = free loots even in high security if you've got the balls to blow em up in front of Concord....at least as far as I understand the game so far

I just realized though, I'm gonna loose all my implants if I get podded aren't I?

Indeed! I'll buy ya a new set. I just won 325 mil last night in a 50 million buyin game of Hold em.

Thanks for the eurofriendly time!

Vedi - Thorax - played for a while, but limited PvP experience.

I set up Thorax since it seems most have chosen tackling or EW so far and we'll need some DPS. I can also scout, but then I'd like to break the implicit "no-T2-expect-inties" rules and bring a Falcon so I can participate in the pewpew. Or I can bring a Crow and tackle. Tell me if any of that is preferred to the Thorax.

Gah, Slayerik, you're one of those killing afk haulers? That has cost me around a billion :P. I've actually been killed in a T2 indy two times in highsec, which is a bit more impressive.

Thrawn, yes, you'll loose the implants then.

You can bring any ship you want as long as you understand it probably won't be coming home :)

And I have only killed one AFK hauler in my day, though I have some friends that make tons doing it.

I will be there...

PVP experience in gangs. 

Not sure on the ship..

Rifter setup for tackle or..

I could bring some DPS... whatever is needed.

I'll play, though I may be an hour late. I'll probably just see what ship we need and bring that.

We have an office at Olo, but we also have an office in Akora (0.3 system) - Akora is where all our spare modules are right now.

Slayerik, this is a great idea. Edit your post to show where we are meeting so we can make sure we are there in time. :)

If Slayerik wants to FC, I will scout in a Stiletto I suppose. Somebody practice directional scanners before, though.

May I suggest that Akora sucks and blows for PvP? The Geminate area is super blobtastic (no offense intended, those guys really bring it). The lowsec string there is just small and was relatively unpopulated last time I cruised through (granted, 'twas a very long time ago). I personally would suggest Syndicate, as it hopefully doesn't have any blues for TRI or RSF and does have some residents worth blowing up. I generally go in through Reblier.

I think we ought to go to 0.0 because the aggression rules are complicated enough without trying to throw in a criminal flag on top of that, and nothing kills an op like waiting for a 15min timer to expire.

Syndicate is a good idea, especially now MC have buggered off.  Are bruce still down in Fountain or did they just take the station from Rise then naff off back to Syndicate?  They really, really like to hot-drop carriers if they are around.  Seriously.  if we turn up on a gate with half a dozen small ships and don't keep moving fast enough there is a very real chance that someone from bruce will drop a carrier into a damn bubble just to get us.

I dunno, I might bring the 3x gyro Rupture so we have some dps between me and Endie's Thorax.

I will be there, total newb at the game and PvP. I will be bringing a frigate with whatever I can fit on it from the list. I had been working on learning skills mostly so far, but I will do my best to change over and get the needed PvP skills before Sunday. Vendann is character name. I am Gallente. Can someone throw out which frigate I should use and a decent fit I should aim for?

Also, are we just going to join F13 corp on Sunday or do we need to join before then?

Another quick question, do we have a vent or TS to use?

F13's Teamspeak.

Join the f13 chat channel, ill get ya some cash. You can join the corp at your leisure.

Buy an Incursus.

Try to get Propulsion Jamming 1 and High Speed Manuevering 1 by then, if possible.

I was thinking we might need a heavily tanked bait ship, to get some noobs to aggress at a gate camp. I might bring my main in a crazy tanked Myrmidon or Deimos, just for baiting. I have a deimos that tanked a 20 man MM gate camp long enough to get back to the gate, and all but 1 of our guys got out.

But A ruppy with some punch is cool.

I don't believe that i am endangering goonfleet by revealing that this is our most basic incursus fitting:

Highslots
3x 125mm Railgun I's
Midslots
1x 1mn MWD(or 1mn Afterburner if you can't get high speed manuevring in time)
1x Stasis Webifier
1x Warp Disruptor
Lows
2x Overdrive Injector System (or 1 OD and 1 capacitor power relay)
Drone
1x Warrior

You can go with a blaster fitting, but your dps isn't huge anyway and this way requires a tiny bit less thinking about ranges.

I've not used Gallente ships before (just trained it), so the Thorax is new to me. I've just set up some basic fits, and it seems the optimal is really, really short when using blasters (around 2+3 km with Electron IIs). Anyone know if that is ok or will I not be able to track with my own transversal? Suppose running an MWD while orbiting at that range is just silly?  :uhrr:  Might be a fun surprise if the fool webs me and is suddenly hit with 350 dps of course ;).

Should probably do some testing on random rats.

You can't orbit with MWD on at that range. You'll push out to 4-5km easy. Plus, you don't want to orbit in a Thorax. Approach for maximum pew pew.

Yeah I've been playing with it a bit on Sisi, since it's so different from Rokhs/Eagles etc.

Thanks for the advice, Dwindle.


What's your fit, Endie?

The only Thorax fit is 3x mag stab, neutrons, 5x hammerheads, point, web, mwd, DC, and your choice. ;)

Ouch, glass cannon fit! Probably more DPS than any battleship I fly though. I'd better bring a dozen.

edit: 535 dps with T2 modules and T1 drones according to EFT. Heh.

That's pretty close to my fit, but fitting constraints on my newish character mean that I'm fitting ions instead of neutrons.  I'm at work, so I can't remember the exact version of each, but it comes to:

5xIons

MWD, point, web

2 mag stabs, DC, SAR and 400mm plate or third mag stab.

The temptation of the plate is that it only increases my align time by .2 seconds and drops my top speed by 21m/s (with MWD going) while increasing my armour by 60%.

If someone has a small remote armour repper then that could go for another mag stab instead of the plate, but being put out of the next fight by taking significant armour damage in the first one and not having repping would be a pest.

The other lowslot config I thought about was nano, OD, istab, DC & mag stab, which sees me doing almost 2km/s but cuts my damage by 40/s, which is kinda counter-intuitive for a thorax.  It's not quite fast enough to reliably speed tank and not quite agile enough to choose to orbit within range of my guns (except with longer range ammo), but was just in case everyone else (except the dot-in-the-distance blackbird) was going for a speed gang approach.  Has anyone used nanite paste yet?  I notice I can do almost 3km/s second with this fit by overloading the mwd, and the overloaded web approaches domi stats.

What's this op going to do?  If we're going to 0.0 I could bring a dictor alt, but my corp is blue to BRUCE (I think Goonswarm is too) so that might be a problem if they're still in Syndicate.  Failing that I could supply a cov ops on the same character or a newbie corp cruiser of some description.

Yeah, that's it. I tested a medium repper and a 800 plate, but that meant downgrading to electrons and only two mag stabs. I have to use a RCU to fit five neurons, so I might check out what using ions and your smaller tank does to the damage. Fun ship, this.

Dictor alt would be awesome.

Quotin dis.  The range of tactical options it opens up are huge.  I'll also chip in for replacement if our first-time-out-together gang gets you killed.

Edit: faction fittings not included in offer.  Terms and conditions apply.  See website for details. :awesome_for_real:

My thoughts for this initial run will be to scout out some gates to 0.0  and find one that has a few ships on it. We then bait them to aggress, bring in the dictor, and take em out. Once we take out a gate camp we roam over to another camp. Im guessing it will be the best way to find some non-blob action and using noob alts we can sum up the odds decently before hand.

Anyone know of particular 0.0 entrances that might fit this bill?

Normally I would suggest the entrances to Providence from Dital and Kari/Esa, since they tend to attract newish pirates, and we'd be given positive encouragement by CVA if we made sure to inform them what we were doing, first (ie busting pirate camps).

However, as Slayerik knows, Tri are currently the very-fucking-far-from-newish-pirates who are most likely to be camping those (and the Misaba entrance), and while we have a pretty decent little gang going there from the look of it, it might not be the wisest move to try it out first on half a dozen fully-nanoed vagas and inties.

Well whatever we do us newer pilots are going to learn a ton of stuff from it I'm sure.

Thanks but that's not necessary, I crosstrained from minmatar just for cheaper dictors.  Long as we aren't popping blue to PL it's all good.  If they come along I'll have to warp off and leave you to die while laughing or something.

Someone figure out where we are staging so I can go setup and office and pre-place some frigates. :)

Just to clarify my role...

I created an noob alt that I am training for scout/tackle.  I should be able to us MWD and Jammer by Sunday.

But... if needed I can fly the following with my main

Dictor
Intercepter
Drake - Tank
Drake/Ferox - DPS
Covert Op - stealth

Ok, I guess we'll try a little northern Tour. We'll start in Torrinos.

If any vets can get a noob alt scout in m-o , p3en, or BWF (try to make a safe within scanning range of Empire Gate)

Any objections or other ideas?

Let's rock. Still need to fit the plate, but I'll do that on-site. I did some play-pvp last night, so I have a good idea of what I need to do and how ECM works.
Edit: Old outdated fitting.

Go ahead and upgrade your clone to a bigger size. That's the only part that costs money. Moving your clone to a different station is free.

Well, 5,600 isk ;)

Req, make an alt and join us. :)



Bhodi, you might need to look at fitting a MWD. You will want to haul ass away from the fighting and ECM people, not be up close with your paper ass! Drop a multi for it.

Can-do. I wasn't sure about it, and none of the fittings online have suggested I need to do it. My cap is pretty miserable so I'm not sure how useful MWD is. Afterburner instead?

Afterburner is pretty pathetic really, I'd probably just slow boat it instead of using your mids for 2x your speed.

I do understand the cap concerns though. Have you looked into Eve Fitting Tool at all? Most fights don't last all that long, but if it is a bad problem you could consider a cap booster (my apologies if this is a horrible idea, I don't fly Caldari or EW boats). I would probably remove the multi anyways and run like 2 Gallente 1 Caldari and a Minmatar racial. Screw amarr :)

OK, then we need to make some calls. Here's the situation. EFT really breaks it down well for me.

With 2 SDAs in the low plus a MWD, my jamming strength for a multispec is 3.364 per, 5 active. That means, if I do the eyeballing right, that I can keep 2 ships locked down for sure, and 3 ships locked down most of the time. The downside on this is that multispecs have shit range and chew cap. 48km optimal + 15km falloff for 1m12s.

Racials give me almost double that (6.322 primary, 2.10 other), use half the cap (2m48s), and have double the range (79km+25km falloff). It sounds like I probably want racials, if for the range if nothing else. They seem to be, in terms of cap just as good as multispecs for a strength / cap ratio on the wrong sensor type. They're a great deal on the primary sensor type.

Unless you think we're going to be fighting hordes of small ships, or I need to be able to lock down more than 2-3 ships, I think fitting racials is the way to go - 2 gallente, 2 caldari, 1 minmatar. If wanted, I can ditch the MWD for a 6th or a LSB. At 200m/sec, I'm pretty much a sitting target and would rely staying aligned, warping to and from the battle to stay out of danger. I don't have enough PvP experience to tell if this works. Also, if I ditch the MWD, my cap TRIPLES, making me effective into the 6 minute range. Probably shorter though since I'll have to be toggling the LSB or warping in and out...

Capacitor power relays don't seem to give me enough of a boost to make it worthwhile, at least for for t1 completely disposable modules. an extra 15% of time isn't worth the hit in jamming strength. Neither is the plate, IMO. I'd rather put a LSB in mid slot rather than take out an SDA from low. As for cap boosters, Again, I'd have to remove one of the SDAs -- this brings my jamming strength down from 6.32/2.10 to 5.55/1.85. it's the MWD that cripples me and my cap.

Now, maybe I have the amount of time battles take all messed up and am front loading my jamming too much. If we really do need 5-6 minutes of a smaller amount of jamming, I can put in cap boosters.

Questions:  use a cap-crippling MWD or do warp-in-out to stay out of range plus a LSB to handle random hits? use SDA to boost my strength, or put in cap rechargers to have less strength for longer? I am leaning towards 2 SDAs, 5 racials, 1 LSB. Maybe switch out that LSB for a medium, maybe swap for a med capacitor booster, or a battery, if fights might last a long time. I just don't have the experience yet to know :)

I assume rigs aren't worthwhile and too expensive?

Left click the checkmark by the MWD to turn it off. Figure out your sustainability with MWD off but fitted. In a boat like this with skills like yours you're only going to egage the MWD for a cycle or two to gtfo.

Upgrade to T2 or named mods before upgrading to rigs. Good mods are more effect/isk.

T2 stuff is also way cheaper than best-named in a lot of examples*, although do check you can fit it.

*I'm trying to keep war stuff out of this thread, but on a purely factual and informative level bob lost a lot of moon mining stuff in feyth and is losing more in delve now (10 moon mining poses so far today alone) so t2 prices will presumably continue to rise, not least since goons are way too lazy to put up the same number of replacements, so supply will fall.

Like I say that's just in case anyone is looking at maybe trading in T2 components.  I'm not suggesting it is war-winningly awesome.

Oh, those figures were with it *off*. I have about 28 seconds with it on. The severely reduced ability is due to the inherent cap penalties.

I heard about this event in the f13 channel. I've been only doing missions for the past 7 trial account days and still learning the ropes. No PvP experience whatsoever and just recently learned to armor tank.

Would like to join though. Let myself be amazed. I'm flying a Tristan. With an engineer character I don't have much combat skills, but I'm happy to eats some hits for the glory of it all. I already have replacements for my implants.

Char name: Nelke Cronspect

PS: I'm using the "Linux client" which tends to crash irregularly after a warp or when something blows up or when I'm generally not careful.

Ok, you're signed up! :)

Try to get some stuff to torrinos guys.... WORD

Do bear in mind that you can get a pretty damn good character out of the box if you just create an alt.  Use the goonfleet character creation guide (http://wiki.goonfleet.com/index.php?title=Recommended_Base_Stat_Builds), choose the minmatar pvp build and what do you know, you're golden!  You can, if you're keen, train up propulsion jamming (do train propulsion jamming!) to fit a web and a scrambler.  But basically it's a great guide to shooting on day one, and it's open to all.

Also, if you look at the goonfleet educational services videos on youtube you'll find intros to everything you need: overviews, tackling and more.  I linked to them in this or the other thread on the F13 corp.

By the way I'll be flying a Punisher. 3x medium pulse, small nos, web, AB, stuff, stuff.

Something I totally discovered today: Because your cap recharges at a fixed percentage rate, fitting cap batteries passively increases your charge rate as well. By more than a capacitor recharger in my case. Even enough to fit a MWD without any issue. New fitting options, able to run the EW indefinitely on both:

2 assault launchers
1 medium smartbomb
5 racial EW (2 gallente, 2 caldari, 1 minmatar) t1s
1 large cap battery
2 signal distortion amplifiers

OR

3 small smartbomb
4 racial EW (1 gallente, 2 caldari, 1 minmatar) t1s
1 large cap battery
1 10mn MWD
2 signal distortion amplifiers

It will be a rush to the MWD, it won't be finished until slightly after 4 EST tomorrow. I'll be able to just dock and fit it once we get to where we're going. Which do I fit?

Really, I'd fit a plate instead of two signal amps.  Your chances of warping out increase greatly.

Also, the small smartbomb is unlikely to ever be in range of anything ever.  Maybe drones, but just jam what is tackling you, warp out and warp in again.  They stay jammed for the rest of the cycle after you warp out, anyway.

OK, I'll fit a plate. The issue is that it destroys my high slots and makes me into a brick, but especially on my first time out, I'll probably need that damage cushion.

The smartbombs really are only for drones which are the bane of blackbirds -- I can jam anything else. If there's a better weapon for drones, I'll fit it instead. I can't fit the medium smartbomb though, not enough cpu/pw. I'll be standing off 70-100km anyway, and won't be in range of anything else. The launchers are for frigate/inty discouragement, and my launcher range is only 30km anyway. I'm not the DPS of the group and hopefully will never be in range.

We have an office in Ibura now, Ibura IX Moon 12. It's next door to Torrinos and is a 0.6 system.

Please use this place to stage so if you need something from the corp hangar it is right there :)

I'm in.

Even though I've played Eve on and off for a couple of years, I have exactly zero pvp experience.

I'll bring my main - name is Uriq. 

I think I have a cruiser that I can spare.

Nice ! Will be good to have a decent SP noob with us :)

Can't make it, guys, sorry. Have fun!

2007.12.16 22:35:00

Victim: UMEE
Alliance: Knights Of the Southerncross
Corp: Nocturnal Damnation Corp
Destroyed: Vexor
System: Taisy
Security: 0.3
Damage Taken: 8048

Involved parties:

Name: The Groundskeeper
Security: 0.0
Alliance: NONE
Corp: F13
Ship: Thorax
Weapon: Thorax
Damage Done: 3256

Name: Vedi
Security: 2.8
Alliance: NONE
Corp: Link Death
Ship: Thorax
Weapon: Thorax
Damage Done: 2269

Name: Daala Phage (laid the final blow)
Security: -0.2
Alliance: NONE
Corp: Guristas
Ship: Thorn Rocket
Weapon: Havoc Heavy Missile
Damage Done: 1191

Name: Thorn Rocket / Guristas
Damage Done: 1191

Name: Bhodii
Security: -0.3
Alliance: NONE
Corp: F13
Ship: Blackbird
Weapon: Bloodclaw Light Missile
Damage Done: 321

Name: Doris Dents
Security: -0.1
Alliance: NONE
Corp: Jita Highway Patrol
Ship: Eris
Weapon: Eris
Damage Done: 108

Destroyed items:

Cap Booster 400, Qty: 9 (Cargo)
Hobgoblin I, Qty: 4 (Drone Bay)
Salvager I
Small Proton Smartbomb I (Cargo)
Medium Armor Repairer I, Qty: 2
Medium Capacitor Battery I
Widowmaker Heavy Missile, Qty: 200 (Cargo)
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Hammerhead I, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay)

Dropped items:

Charred Micro Circuit, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
Tripped Power Circuit, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Hobgoblin I, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay)
Salvager I, Qty: 2
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Conductive Polymer (Cargo)
Burned Logic Circuit, Qty: 8 (Cargo)
Capacitor Power Relay I
Small Tractor Beam I, Qty: 2
Scorched Telemetry Processor, Qty: 3 (Cargo)
Fried Interface Circuit, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
Medium Brief Capacitor Overcharge I
Ward Console, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Initiated Harmonic Warp Jammer I (Cargo)





GO NOOBS!

Victim number two:

2007.12.16 22:43:00

Victim: PantrashMoFo
Alliance: RAZOR Alliance
Corp: GALAXIAN
Destroyed: Thrasher
System: M-OEE8
Security: 0.0
Damage Taken: 2535

Involved parties:

Name: Vedi (laid the final blow)
Security: 2.8
Alliance: NONE
Corp: Link Death
Ship: Thorax
Weapon: Heavy Ion Blaster II
Damage Done: 2163

Name: Dirty Mick
Security: 0.0
Alliance: NONE
Corp: Republic Military School
Ship: Rifter
Weapon: Rifter
Damage Done: 224

Name: Bhodii
Security: -0.3
Alliance: NONE
Corp: F13
Ship: Blackbird
Weapon: Bloodclaw Light Missile
Damage Done: 148

Destroyed items:

Power Diagnostic System I
Small Hull Repairer I (Cargo)
Iron Charge S, Qty: 100 (Cargo)
Small Energy Neutralizer I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Small Energy Transfer Array I (Cargo)
280mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Qty: 3
Small Capacitor Battery I (Cargo)
Uranium Charge S, Qty: 120 (Cargo)
280mm Howitzer Artillery I, Qty: 2
Sabretooth Light Missile, Qty: 25
Small Brief Capacitor Overcharge I (Cargo)
Titanium Sabot S, Qty: 66

Dropped items:

Warp Disruptor II
Titanium Sabot S, Qty: 1745 (Cargo)
Small Shield Booster I (Cargo)
Small Nosferatu I (Cargo)
'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher I
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
125mm Railgun I, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Scan Resolution
Sensor Booster II
Small Shield Extender I (Cargo)
Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 117 (Cargo)
280mm Howitzer Artillery I, Qty: 2
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Titanium Sabot S, Qty: 25

I learn about sentry guns at gates and aggression timers!
(http://www.filedump.net/dumped/ouchy1197845915.JPG)

Ouch.

Anyway, here is some chatlog from the gatecamp we attacked, as they gank someone else beforehand:


Maldak, we avenged ye.

Oh, and nice work Slayerik.  That was brilliant fun and I hope you run some more.  I think it helped once you realised we were all completely relaxed about dying  :awesome_for_real:  We got kills, which was great.  I also enjoyed it once I got to pretend to be an FC and call primaries and stuff at the end.

Who was the genius with the scanner who got us the vexxor (and nearly a caracal, too)?

/me raises hand.

I'm glad those 10 minutes of scanner training paid off!

That was great!

I'd be happy to lose more ships at a later date. Thanks to Slayerik for setting it up!

I have to say, the Thorax/Blackbird/Scrambler-combo worked well! It's a bit annoying that we didn't get that Cerb - he was going down fairly fast by the end, but there's no tank on the Thorax so once he started pounding me, I went down much faster :P.

What actually happened there, did he target someone else first or did Bhodi keep him jammed ? I MWD'ed like 60 KM at 1.3 km/s in peace there.

That was a lot of fun, thanks for hangin in there as im not too experienced at running gangs.

Basically, worst move....Me jumping unscouted into EC- (next time i wont tie one on before it)

Best Move - bhodi MVP scan of the vexor (almost had his caracal buddy too).

Most entertaining - Watching the Raven beg for his life.

In all there were things we could have done better, but obviously it was just a good ole time. I look forward to the next one....Speaking of which...maybe throw out some preferred times during the week.

Tuesday and Wednesday nights both work for me until I start classes again in a month or so.

Slay, if the FC's worst move is getting himself ganked, then the op is a massive success!  I've been on ops where the FC gets himself ganked in a mothership and everyone dies hilariously.  Scouting in a myrmidon is nothing in comparison :)  It was partly my fault, too: I should have brought up an alt to scout, but got caught up in the 5-N pos defence op.

Fact is, we wanted fights and you got us not one but three, and kills to boot.  Nice work.

Next time, i think I'll fit rails: the time I spent mwding around to reach people running away meant I lost all the advantage from the blasters.  I loved the gallente drones, though.

That said, I have a covops character (currently lapsed and training caldari cruisers V) that I could bring next time.  With her setting up warpins and scanning down ratters, blasters are way better, and I can scan down targets in belts inside 40 seconds.

I have to agree on Bhodi being MVP: jamming that cerb out of the first fight on the gate (like Vedi, I went almost 100km keeping drones in range on mwd and he could do nothing), and getting the scan for the vexxor.  Bhodi, you are a Natural Born Killer.

I have to ask, though, what the vexxor and caracal were doing ratting in a 0.0/empire gateway system, with only six or so belts, in belt 1 at 0km, a bazillion miles from KOS space, anyway?!?

Edit: And Wednesday nights are good for me too, but I imagine I'll be going to bed too early for all you US types.  0130 Eve Time on Thursdays at the latest would be logoff time for me.

I jammed the cereb and warped away since his one volley took my entire shield down so I only got one jam cycle on him. By time I warped back it was pretty much all over; We fiddled around with him the second time and I was primary again -- same thing.

Monday+weds are best; I'll generally be home around 8 EST on tues and thurs is completely out.

Welcome to ewar.  Its effectiveness is reflected in your priority as a target, but then everyone on your side values you correspondingly.

And that is why i suggested a plate!

Yeah, props to Bhodi!

I am also on euro time, and must be off even earlier than Endie, usually. Let's say 01.00 Eve time at the latest. Any day is (generally) possible before this time, though.

Could we perhaps keep the Sunday timeslot? I imagine it'll be hard to get the Euro and US people all together on weekdays.

That was cool, I'm a bit embarrased dying in my own bubble on the cerb when I could've got away easy by burning out further before trying to find somewhere to align.  Great job everyone else though!

I had a great time. I got point on someone in the first camp we attacked and then got owned and podded as my screen froze. After that it was a lot of searching around for fights before we suicided into an 0.0 gate camp. I had loads of fun though. I am available most nights U. S. time, but I think Sundays at that time are great for getting the U.S. and Euros together. I hope we do it again. Today confirmed me to at least pay for a month even though I still detest the developers of EvE. Props to Slayerik, Bhodi and the guy who took over when Slayer left I think it was Dirty Mick or something. You all did a great job.

If you mean who took over primary-calling and marshalling our glorious retreat after slay had to warp then that was me.  If you mean that it actually went on afterwards then I am jealous.

The strange thing about calling primaries is that I found it far more nerve-wracking in that small-gang, just-for-lulz atmosphere than i did the only previous time, which was in D2 in a 200-per-side fleet fight (the FCs didn't have grid loaded so I called for a short time).  In fleet actions your overview is set up so as to dictate the order of primaries, and the rules on who to shoot, at what range and transversal are pretty clear.  Also, you're zoomed right out in them so there's not much distraction.

I'd be all over this if we had gimmick names like "Starbuck", "Apollo" and "Boxy"

I happen to think that The Groundskeeper is pretty damn cool, actually  :angryfist:

Did anyone get podded? I don't mind stripping my vexxor down to cheaper stuff (pulling off my T2 mission stuff), but I've got implants I can't be arsed to replace and I'm not set up for a jump clone at this point.

5 of us wandered around for a few hours under Dirty Mick, eventually at the end of the night we were so far from home we all just suicided into the nearest 0.0 bubblecamp. We all got podded deliberately and bounced back to the torrino-area and went home. I don't think that counts, though.

I made a combat character...you can get a Minmatar with frig 4, Gunnery 5, small projectile 5, some decent Navigation skills all from character creation and never have to worry about implants. I'll train her up to about 1 mil SP from the 800k she started with and basically use her a just a fun little tackler bitch :)

I thought about that, but I really want the practice with my Vex and evil drones. Which means either leaving my corp (to set up a clone), grinding up standing until I can set a jump clone at an NPC facility, or just eating my implants if I get podded.

Next time, let's be the kitty!

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You keep ganking shit and I'm going to have to resub! :awesome_for_real:

In best F13 tradition, this calls for a chart:

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Pure ownage.

I resubbed and made a new character named Flameboy.

Although we had the interdictor, I felt we kinda lacked the ability to chase down, web and scram kiting ships like the thrasher the first time and the cerberus the second.  The Groundskeeper is only about a week away from Gallente interceptors, so unless someone else wants to do this and already has a million points in navigation skills I'll train him for a fairly ghetto inty setup for the first gang we run after Christmas.


This is awesome :)

I can also do the interceptor thing. Actually had one fitted for last time as a backup. Since this is my main, I can do quite a few roles so just go for it if you want.

We still need that Thorax DPS though...A ceptor and a rifter fit for speed should do just fine for tacklers. Our next serious run will be very cool methinks!

Have you decided where we will base the next run from? I'd like to bring in some replacement ships in advance.

I personally like the Taisy/Obe area, but its cause I'm a northerner. Torrinos turned out bad... Saranen could be a possibility. Any ideas???

They suckered me in with their $9.95 re-up email today.