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Title: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: stray on December 06, 2007, 05:16:08 AM
Link (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9051202&intsrc=hm_list)

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A North Carolina man last week was sentenced to 110 years in prison after admitting that he and a co-conspirator hacked into computers used by young girls and used illicitly gained data to blackmail them.

Ivory D. Dickerson, 33, a civil engineer, admitted that he conspired with the other person to send e-mails or instant messages to underage girls as part of a scheme to trick them into opening a file containing the Bifrost Trojan horse. The malware would then give Dickerson and his co-conspirator control over the victim's computer, and they would try to use hacked information to coerce the girls into creating and then electronically sending them lurid photos of themselves, prosecutors said.


I mean...Sure, they should be punished (severely)... But come the fuck on. I'm afraid that this is less about the actual crimes commited and more about the Fear of Technology gone awry.


Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: Tebonas on December 06, 2007, 05:24:06 AM
That wasn't a a hacking crime but a  :pedobear: crime, though. Wasn't it?

110 years for a pedophile sounds about right.


Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: stray on December 06, 2007, 05:28:45 AM
Unless I read the article wrong, the  :pedobear: stuff were seperate charges. This sentence was tied in to computer intrusion and extortion. Of course, I have no problems with child pornography crimes being punished to the utmost, but this seems kind of iffy.

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In conjunction with the evidence found on Dickerson's computer in relation to his hacking and extortion scheme, the U.S. Attorney's office reported that FBI agents also found more than 600 pornographic images of children.

"Typically, most of the computer crime cases here in this office are of people collecting child pornography that's already out there," said Handberg. "In my office in Orlando, I've never heard of anyone hacking to extort child pornography."

Dickerson had pleaded guilty in the Orlando court in August to two counts of unlawful computer intrusions and to one count of conspiracy to manufacture child pornography. He pleaded guilty to two more child pornography charges a month later.

Handberg said that the investigation is ongoing and a second arrest has not yet been made.


Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: Tebonas on December 06, 2007, 05:31:10 AM
It was the hacking and extortion of minors charge, though. Extortion of minors is bad shit as well.

Usually not 110 years bad though, granted.


Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: UD_Delt on December 06, 2007, 06:14:38 AM
Unless I read the article wrong, the  :pedobear: stuff were seperate charges. This sentence was tied in to computer intrusion and extortion. Of course, I have no problems with child pornography crimes being punished to the utmost, but this seems kind of iffy.

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In conjunction with the evidence found on Dickerson's computer in relation to his hacking and extortion scheme, the U.S. Attorney's office reported that FBI agents also found more than 600 pornographic images of children.

"Typically, most of the computer crime cases here in this office are of people collecting child pornography that's already out there," said Handberg. "In my office in Orlando, I've never heard of anyone hacking to extort child pornography."

Dickerson had pleaded guilty in the Orlando court in August to two counts of unlawful computer intrusions and to one count of conspiracy to manufacture child pornography. He pleaded guilty to two more child pornography charges a month later.

Handberg said that the investigation is ongoing and a second arrest has not yet been made.

I read that to mean 110 years was for the two counts of intrusion, one count of conspiracy to manufacture child porn and 2 more child porn charges. The separate charge sounds like they are going after someone else.

To me 110 years for this is totally justified. Fuck it just execute the motherfucker.


Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: Soukyan on December 06, 2007, 06:20:48 AM
Fuck it just execute the motherfucker.

/agree


Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: Phildo on December 07, 2007, 11:17:18 AM
I say let them go with a stern warning and gigantic signs to put on their houses that say "I Create Spam Emails"


Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: geldonyetich2 on December 07, 2007, 02:10:07 PM
Smaller sign below: "and pedophilia."

Personally, I'm surprised young girls can be coerced in this way.  What horrible blackmail incentive is MySpace and Neopet passwords?


Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: Riggswolfe on December 07, 2007, 02:16:23 PM
You'd be surprised what young girls do these days. I know of at least one early teenager who claims to put lurid photos onto her private myspace-type account. (This girl needs a responsible parent ASAP but that's another story.)


Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: Merusk on December 07, 2007, 05:58:39 PM
You'd be surprised what young girls do these days. I know of at least one early teenager who claims to put lurid photos onto her private myspace-type account. (This girl needs a responsible parent ASAP but that's another story.)


Anyone who's hung out on /b/ for a day or three knows this is not only a claim, but true.  They've hacked into more myspace accts than you can shake a stick at, and posted the results.

Of course, I hear "young girl" and I think 15-16.. maybe you guys are talking 12 year olds.


Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: stray on December 07, 2007, 06:02:06 PM
I doubt those pics stay up for long. I think myspace monitors people's profiles. My friend had a pic of her arm with some cat scratches on it, and then one day myspace removed it, saying in an email that they prohibit depictions of "torture" and "mutiliation" and whatnot. I think they thought she was an S&M freak.


Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on December 07, 2007, 06:30:52 PM
I doubt those pics stay up for long. I think myspace monitors people's profiles. My friend had a pic of her arm with some cat scratches on it, and then one day myspace removed it, saying in an email that they prohibit depictions of "torture" and "mutiliation" and whatnot. I think they thought she was an S&M freak.

Kitty porn? :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: Samwise on December 08, 2007, 03:04:55 PM
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Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: Riggswolfe on December 13, 2007, 02:09:45 PM
You'd be surprised what young girls do these days. I know of at least one early teenager who claims to put lurid photos onto her private myspace-type account. (This girl needs a responsible parent ASAP but that's another story.)


Anyone who's hung out on /b/ for a day or three knows this is not only a claim, but true.  They've hacked into more myspace accts than you can shake a stick at, and posted the results.

Of course, I hear "young girl" and I think 15-16.. maybe you guys are talking 12 year olds.

I think she was 14 or so at the time. She's 17 now though that still qualifies as a young girl in my mind. It wasn't Myspace it was some place called Elf-something-or-other.


Title: Re: 110 Year Sentence for...Hacking?
Post by: cmlancas on December 14, 2007, 07:48:30 AM
As angry.bob would say, first to the wall.