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Title: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Riggswolfe on October 22, 2007, 11:07:05 AM
They now have the 80gb version with Motorstorm packed in for $499. Literally sitting next to the 60gb for the same price.

I also got a coupon to send in for 5 free Blu-ray movies.

With it I got: an HDMI connector, another controller, a usb charge cord, a Ps2 memory card converter and Folklore. I plan to get Resistance soon, maybe this month, maybe November. Seeing the 80gb at $499 was my breaking point.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Yegolev on October 22, 2007, 11:11:51 AM
That's a pretty good pack.  I'd pass on Resistance and get Ratchet & Clank, but YMMV.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Riggswolfe on October 22, 2007, 11:36:14 AM
I'm usually into the more "Mature" games. Or perhaps I should say more serious. I generally don't go for comedy in my games.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Ragnoros on October 22, 2007, 11:45:21 AM
Ratchet & Clank is not about comedy. It's about Pew Pew.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: stray on October 22, 2007, 11:45:47 AM
I think even Insomniac would tell you to get R&C.


To be serious though, the one thing that Insomniac has as their trademark is weapon design, and you're going to find them playing more to that strength with R&C than Resistance (though the weapons are cool there too); plus, there will be more gameplay diversity there than just a straight up shooter; for what it's worth, it's a better technology demo (same engine, just better).


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Yegolev on October 22, 2007, 12:03:51 PM
There is plenty of comedy in R&C, but the cartoony style probably makes people think it's not really about blowing up shit.  It's really all about using huge, insane weapons to blow up tons of shit.  There's plenty of platforming, swinging from grapples, some gliding/flying/tanks, but it's all about exploding things.  The weapons are as big of a star as Ratchet or Clank.  The vehicles are pretty good, too, but not quite as good as the general run-and-gun.  But it is funny and goofy, no doubt.  Robot zombies?  The whole Captain Quark arc?  Funny layered on top of solid gameplay.

Resistance was Insomniac's PS3 testbed.  I expect great things from R&CF.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Riggswolfe on October 22, 2007, 01:24:24 PM
Well, I also enjoy storylines in games, even FPS. Sooo....it looks like these games will have to do me for now. Does R&C have co-op?


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Yegolev on October 22, 2007, 01:40:24 PM
Co-op seems unlikely.  Deadlocked had it, but not in the main game (IIRC).  There could be co-op multiplayer maps but the main game won't be, I'm sure.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: rattran on October 22, 2007, 01:58:55 PM
If you can wait until Nov 20 or so, I'll send you my copy of Resistance. I've gotten all the fun out of it I can, as I totally suck at the game.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Riggswolfe on October 22, 2007, 02:23:35 PM
If you can wait until Nov 20 or so, I'll send you my copy of Resistance. I've gotten all the fun out of it I can, as I totally suck at the game.

Too late but I appreaciate the offer. Besides, my girlfriend is stressed and wants to kill weird Aliens. Now! lol.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Strazos on October 22, 2007, 03:26:39 PM
80gb version is sans BC, yes?

I hate that I will eventually need a PS3 if Persona 4 turns out to be awesome. I'll hate it more if it can't play my old games.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Velorath on October 22, 2007, 03:41:49 PM
80gb version is sans BC, yes?

I hate that I will eventually need a PS3 if Persona 4 turns out to be awesome. I'll hate it more if it can't play my old games.

80GB BC is partly hardware and partly software.  It supports less games than the 20/60GB, but better than nothing.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Fabricated on October 22, 2007, 04:07:25 PM
Get a good TV if you don't have one. I got a new Bravia and holy shit Ratchet and Clank, Folklore, and Resistance look great. Download tons of demos, goof with the rather neat remote play feature if you got a PSP, run Folding At Home for the hell of it.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: LK on October 22, 2007, 04:40:16 PM
So Folklore got better after the shit-tastic intro?


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: schild on October 22, 2007, 04:53:00 PM
Folklore is more than fun. I'm hoping Fab reviews it. :awesome_for_real: For real.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Velorath on October 22, 2007, 06:31:09 PM
It seems to have gotten very "meh" reviews.  Defiantly sounds like a style over substance kinda game.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Fabricated on October 22, 2007, 06:39:12 PM
The camera and targeting system kinda suck. It is however enormously pretty. Six-Axis sucks though.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: schild on October 23, 2007, 05:55:40 AM
It's the least invasive six-axis however. Substance wise it's a murder-mystery-catch-em-all.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Riggswolfe on October 23, 2007, 06:26:04 AM
If you can wait until Nov 20 or so, I'll send you my copy of Resistance. I've gotten all the fun out of it I can, as I totally suck at the game.

Ok, I take it back. I didn't get Resistance and yes, I can wait until Nov 20 if your offer is still open. :)


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Riggswolfe on October 23, 2007, 11:30:09 AM
Just for shits and giggles I figured I'd do a sort of mini-review: PS3 vs XBOX 360 now that I finally own both of them.

Games:
For quantity and I'd argue quality I think it's no question that the 360 is currently the winner.

Interface:
This is probably a personal preference but I don't want the PSP interface for my gaming console. It's not as intuitive as the 360 interface. I'm giving this point to the 360 right now.

Graphics:
Folklore looks nice. So far I haven't seen a clear advantage to either system and don't expect to for a year or more. If Devs take advantage of the PS3 I think it'll have the edge here eventually.

Sound:
A tie as near as I can tell, though I did notice the PS3 supports DTS which I prefer over Dolby. I need to check whether or not the XBOX does before I can judge. Right now I'll give a slight edge to the PS3.

Construction:
PS3 wins easily. It seems to be more stable and also has built in wireless and HDMI.

Controllers:
I'm not sure I like the Sixaxis stuff. It feels...gimmicky right now OTOH they already have rechargeable batteries and I only need a USB cable to charge them. I'm going to call this one a tie also.

So, a tie with the PS3 probably taking the lead in a year or two when their library looks better and the graphics mature.

Oh, and I didn't get Resistance. I got Virtua Fighter and a cheap copy of Dark Kingdom. The last because my girlfriend and daughter both love the Baldur's Gate/Champions of Norrath style of "action RPG". I am hoping to get Heavenly Sword and maybe Resistance soon but it'll probably be January since we're coming up on Christmas time.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: stray on October 23, 2007, 11:37:23 AM
PS3 has 7.1 Dolby TrueHD, Dolby, DTS, SACD, and has better codec/playback support (i think the 360 is DTS and Dolby)... It's not really a slight edge.



Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Riggswolfe on October 23, 2007, 11:57:14 AM
True Stray.

So, my games are:

Motorstorm: More fun than I thought it'd be but I don't think it'll last long
Virtua Fighter 5: Fun but I hate that movement appears tied to the thumb pad and not the stick. WTF?
Folklore: Interesting. It's very creative and unique but it feels like it has something missing so far.
Dark Kingdom: I'm fully expecting this one to suck but as I said before I got it for my girlfriend and daughter.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: stray on October 23, 2007, 12:03:44 PM
Motorstorm is fun, but I think the idea will be better served in a sequel.

Graphics wise, you might want to download the R&C and Heavenly Sword demos to see the hardware being taken advantage of (for the time being....). Although Motorstorm is pretty too.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: schild on October 23, 2007, 12:04:41 PM
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Virtua Fighter 5: Fun but I hate that movement appears tied to the thumb pad and not the stick. WTF?

It's a fighting game. DPads and Joysticks only, analog sticks need not apply.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Velorath on October 23, 2007, 12:14:07 PM
Oh, and I didn't get Resistance. I got Virtua Fighter and a cheap copy of Dark Kingdom.

Did you forget that the 360 has a better version of VF5 coming out in a week?


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Riggswolfe on October 23, 2007, 12:40:43 PM
Quote
Virtua Fighter 5: Fun but I hate that movement appears tied to the thumb pad and not the stick. WTF?

It's a fighting game. DPads and Joysticks only, analog sticks need not apply.

Possibly but then again, an analog stick is the closest to a joystick I have right now. At least let me change it in the options. The thumb pad starts hurting my thumb in a fighting game because I push a bit hard when I get excited.

Oh, and I didn't get Resistance. I got Virtua Fighter and a cheap copy of Dark Kingdom.


Did you forget that the 360 has a better version of VF5 coming out in a week?

Yeah, pretty much. I realize now that I have a PS3 that with most multi-system games I'll probably have to wait for reviews to see which system it is better on. Which sucks because I like the preorder perks.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Yegolev on October 23, 2007, 12:55:42 PM
I didn't know people played vs fighters with analog sticks.  I don't even like the solid-disk type d-pads for fighting games.

On cross-platform games, I have to consider that the 360 version is going to have Achievements.  I love me some Achievements.  The 360 is a piece of junk but XBL is awesome, while the PS3 is like a Cadillac but PSN is balls.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: schild on October 23, 2007, 01:00:02 PM
Analog stick is nothing like joystickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Yegolev on October 23, 2007, 01:02:06 PM
Should I have said thumbstick?  You know what I mean.  The nub on your Sixaxis.  Arcade joystick is a different matter.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: schild on October 23, 2007, 01:05:11 PM
Analog Stick and Thumbstick are the same thing.

D-Pad is D-pad. or Control Pad.

Now I have zero clue what you're talking about :|


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Riggswolfe on October 23, 2007, 01:07:32 PM
On cross-platform games, I have to consider that the 360 version is going to have Achievements.  I love me some Achievements.  The 360 is a piece of junk but XBL is awesome, while the PS3 is like a Cadillac but PSN is balls.

True. I mostly got the PS3 for the RPGs that will come and Metal Gear. I'm still torn over Assassin's Creed. It looks awesome but I have a sneaky suspicion it'll play like ass.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Yegolev on October 23, 2007, 01:45:26 PM
Analog Stick and Thumbstick are the same thing.

D-Pad is D-pad. or Control Pad.

Now I have zero clue what you're talking about :|

Time to rewrite?

I did not know people used the thumbstick to play fighting games.  I woudn't, and I don't even like to use the disk-style D-pad.  I prefer the four-button D-pad found on the PS controllers.  These comments don't have anything to do with an arcade joystick because that's a completely different animal.  I would not like using a D-pad on an arcade machine.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Velorath on October 23, 2007, 04:36:51 PM
Analog Stick and Thumbstick are the same thing.

D-Pad is D-pad. or Control Pad.

Now I have zero clue what you're talking about :|

Time to rewrite?

I did not know people used the thumbstick to play fighting games.  I woudn't, and I don't even like to use the disk-style D-pad.  I prefer the four-button D-pad found on the PS controllers.  These comments don't have anything to do with an arcade joystick because that's a completely different animal.  I would not like using a D-pad on an arcade machine.

If I pick up VF5, I'll likely have to get one of these (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802191) to go along with it.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: rattran on October 23, 2007, 05:36:01 PM
Okay, I'll mentally put Reisitance in a bucket for you. Just try to drop me a note at some point.

Dark Kingdom was fun for a bit, but got tedious pretty quickly. Seemed like the control of the toon wasn't enough for the enemies attacking. Or perhaps I just sucked on that game too.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: stray on October 23, 2007, 07:40:18 PM
I like D-Pads! Though not the PS2 or SixAxis really...but it's functional.

On the 360 however, it's imperative to get a stick. That is literally the worst D-pad ever.


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: MisterNoisy on October 23, 2007, 08:32:29 PM
I like D-Pads! Though not the PS2 or SixAxis really...but it's functional.

On the 360 however, it's imperative to get a stick. That is literally the worst D-pad ever.

It's pretty bad, but the 'worst D-Pad ever' title belongs to the GC controller, unless you're about five years old, in which case it's sized just for you.  :P


Title: Re: So, I got a PS3 finally
Post by: Velorath on October 31, 2007, 08:22:47 PM
On a PS3 related note, MGS4 has been pushed back yet again and is now expected sometime in Q2 2008.