Title: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Ookii on August 30, 2007, 01:57:03 PM Found this off of Digg:
Quote Fan death is an urban legend that originated in South Korea, but has since spread to other countries in the Far East. The belief is that an electric fan, if left running overnight in a closed room, can result in the death (by suffocation, poisoning, or hypothermia) of those inside. This belief also extends to air conditioners and the fans in cars. When the air conditioner or fan is on in a car, some people are apt to leave their car windows open a crack to avoid "fan death." Fans manufactured and sold in Korea are equipped with a timer switch that turns them off after a set number of minutes, which users are frequently urged to set when going to sleep with a fan on. Not only does this sound totally unbelievable, but I couldn't believe I haven't heard about it before. Apparently: Quote According to urban legend study and reporter Cecil Adams, when informed that the phenomenon is virtually unheard of outside of their country, Koreans have suggested that their unique physiology renders them susceptible to fan death. I mean hell this was printed in the Korean Herald: Quote On Friday in eastern Seoul, a 16-year-old girl died from suffocation after she fell asleep in her room with an electric fan in motion. The death toll from fan-related incidents reached 10 during the past week. Am I alone in my ignorance of this urban myth? It's utterly fascinating to me. Linkie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death) Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: schild on August 30, 2007, 02:25:41 PM (http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/879/relpievi9.png)
I believe it. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Paelos on August 30, 2007, 03:17:01 PM I'm thinking Mythbusters could probably prove "fan-death" doesn't exist. Moron.
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Xerapis on August 30, 2007, 03:52:46 PM Well, that explains why both of the fans I've bought in Korea have stupid timers on them.
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Nebu on August 30, 2007, 04:29:42 PM Schild has demonstrated what I had wondered for years: That pac man does believe in god.
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Oban on August 30, 2007, 05:49:10 PM I am in an enclosed office in Korea at the moment. Just realised why there is an oxygen generating machine in the office.
Ha. Never seen it anywhere else. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Righ on August 30, 2007, 06:18:32 PM Do you think that cats could be sneaking into rooms at night and using the fans to suck the breath out of people bigger than infants?
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Signe on August 30, 2007, 06:31:56 PM I don't believe in all that urban myth nonsense either. I'm sure it must have been cats.
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: schild on August 30, 2007, 06:46:19 PM I'm thinking Mythbusters could probably prove "fan-death" doesn't exist. Moron. Some should fill a room with electric fans and just video tape himself sleeping for like 12 hours. Maybe video cameras negate this. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Paelos on August 30, 2007, 09:23:58 PM Exactly what is the thinking here? Fans consume oxygen? Fans create noxious gasses? Movement of air in confined areas creates violent urges to kill?
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Trippy on August 30, 2007, 09:44:39 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: MrHat on August 31, 2007, 04:27:37 AM Schild has demonstrated what I had wondered for years: That pac man does believe in god. I think it's more like God is Pacman. Those who believe in Him become part of Him. Those who don't get chewed up. Edit: Why is this stickied? Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Trippy on August 31, 2007, 04:29:52 AM Cause Ookii has the power to do that?
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Selby on August 31, 2007, 04:38:49 AM I've slept with fans on all night since I was 3 years old. As a matter of fact I can't sleep without one. This must mean I am immortal, people should start to fear me. Look out world, no fan can stop me now!
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: bhodi on August 31, 2007, 07:16:09 AM My friend has just spent 30 minutes trying to justify her belief to us.
It's pretty much an irrational fear at this point. We tried to nail it down. It alternates between "very hot days people just pass out maybe it's evaporation caused from the fan" to "well when I'm in a breeze for a while even if it's 90 degrees I get chilled to the bone". She had it instilled in her growing up, had ac in every room so she wasn't affected directly, but the fear is still there. We all think she's loony. Well, more loony than before. Krazy Koreans. Now she's all pissy. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: JWIV on August 31, 2007, 07:22:05 AM My friend has just spent 30 minutes trying to justify her belief to us. It's pretty much an irrational fear at this point. We tried to nail it down. It alternates between "very hot days people just pass out maybe it's evaporation caused from the fan" to "well when I'm in a breeze for a while even if it's 90 degrees I get chilled to the bone". She had it instilled in her growing up, had ac in every room so she wasn't affected directly, but the fear is still there. We all think she's loony. Well, more loony than before. Krazy Koreans. I just realized that all it would take is a single CSI episode where someone died this way and 60% of the US would become converts to the Fan Death theory. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Merusk on August 31, 2007, 07:39:27 AM Exactly what is the thinking here? Fans consume oxygen? Fans create noxious gasses? Yep, just like plants! Damned if I can remember who, but I came across someone a few months ago who still believed that plants had to be placed outside of sleeping rooms lest they suck-up all the oxygen. Fuck, plenty of people in the US still believe you can't get pregnant her first time having sex, or that a woman on top eliminates the chance "cuz of gravity!" We've got bucketloads of stupid to go around, too. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Signe on August 31, 2007, 07:55:02 AM Fuck, plenty of people in the US still believe you can't get pregnant her first time having sex, or that a woman on top eliminates the chance "cuz of gravity!" We've got bucketloads of stupid to go around, too. Well, here you have some silly things that women believe. What are some silly things that men believe. Umm... that they're in charge? :lol: Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Ookii on August 31, 2007, 07:58:52 AM Schild has demonstrated what I had wondered for years: That pac man does believe in god. I think it's more like God is Pacman. Those who believe in Him become part of Him. Those who don't get chewed up. Edit: Why is this stickied? Wasn't me, I mean it's not THAT good of a thread. Twas schild. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Paelos on August 31, 2007, 08:18:37 AM Fuck, plenty of people in the US still believe you can't get pregnant her first time having sex, or that a woman on top eliminates the chance "cuz of gravity!" We've got bucketloads of stupid to go around, too. Well, here you have some silly things that women believe. What are some silly things that men believe. Umm... that they're in charge? :lol: Let's see: that we can find our way around without directions, that we can accurately predict sports outcomes before they happen, that every woman would be into us if they spent enough time around us, that an all-you-can-eat buffet is a challenge to your manhood, and that it's not cheating if you're in different zip codes. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Merusk on August 31, 2007, 09:09:34 AM You forgot directions are for pussies, Paelos.
It's not just women I've heard spouting that other nonsense tho, Signe, but how about tacking "Men are all easily-lead morons" onto that side. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: bhodi on August 31, 2007, 09:31:58 AM I'm easily led by my nether regions.
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Signe on August 31, 2007, 10:10:41 AM Stop agreeing with me. I am trying to inspire controversy!
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Samwise on August 31, 2007, 10:28:26 AM No you're not.
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Nonentity on August 31, 2007, 11:27:23 AM Signe, I am easily led by petite girls with cute haircuts.
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Oban on August 31, 2007, 06:38:51 PM So on the way to Inchon airport, in a van full of Korean engineers, I brought up this subject.
They all had heard of fan death but none of them could explain how it was possible... Need to find new engineers. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Megrim on August 31, 2007, 10:17:40 PM Why, because the old ones all died mysteriously overnight?
Ha ha, oooh... Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Raging Turtle on September 01, 2007, 11:00:46 AM Ah, I miss Korea...
I think. Maybe. Hmmm. Perhaps just the food and certain parts of Seoul. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Samwise on September 02, 2007, 10:55:26 PM I just now realized that schild's pacman chart is wrong. The yellow part of the pie is labelled as being half theistic, so that half of it should be part of the pacman.
SHENANIGANS! Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: tazelbain on September 02, 2007, 10:59:37 PM It's a well known fact that Pac-man was nihilist.
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Ironwood on September 03, 2007, 01:01:57 AM I just now realized that schild's pacman chart is wrong. The yellow part of the pie is labelled as being half theistic, so that half of it should be part of the pacman. SHENANIGANS! Just the most awesome avatar. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Samwise on September 03, 2007, 10:21:15 AM I aims to please. :-D Sometimes I even succeed.
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Signe on September 03, 2007, 10:49:41 AM Ceiling fans don't count, right? And the suction fan in the bathroom, right? God, I've left the master bath door open with it on and the ceiling fan in the bedroom while we sleep before. Am I dicing with death?
I still think these things are bollocks and it's much more likely that cats are sneaking in and sucking the life out of sleeping Koreans. It's really the only logical explanation. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Oban on September 03, 2007, 11:27:34 AM My guess is that a coroner in Seoul was trying to not dishonour a recently deceased person's family with the fact that they died choking on their own vomit after overdosing on soju... and from there, the myth began.
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Krakrok on September 03, 2007, 09:09:26 PM What, no one here has ever gotten a cold from sleeping in a draft before? I'm sure pretty much everyone has heard a version of 'don't sleep in a draft, you'll catch your death'. It could be the same thing except the Koreans have a fan woven into their version. There is all kinds of shit blowing around in the air (http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20030802/bob8.asp). You don't think if you're sleeping where there is a draft that particles of dust and diseases like Valley Fever or TB have a chance of blowing into your mouth and nose? Raise your hand if you think sleeping in a draft with your mouth open during the plague in Europe was a good idea. Here's some old book I found that talks about preventing disease in factories (http://books.google.com/books?id=TTlq4jfPhgQC&pg=PA9&dq=drafty+windows+disease+factory) by not having your workers work in a draft. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Samwise on September 03, 2007, 09:14:49 PM What, no one here has ever gotten a cold from sleeping in a draft before? No, not that I am aware of. And if it was cold why would I have a fan on? :? I sleep with a fan on when it's too goddamn hot to sleep without a fan on. I don't think I'm liable to die of hypothermia or whatever under those conditions. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Paelos on September 03, 2007, 10:01:17 PM Fans make the room warmer, people. They simply create a windchill effect in the room by causing sweat to evaporate easier off your skin, thus making it easier to eliminate your body heat. Most cases of hypothermia happen because the weather is cold. If you were going to die of hypothermia, the room would have to be cold enough to kill you without the fan on and completely soaked to the bone and loaded on drugs.
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Oban on September 03, 2007, 11:04:40 PM ... If you were going to die of hypothermia, the room would have to be cold enough to kill you without the fan on and completely soaked to the bone and loaded on drugs. Yes, the easy availability of drugs and the complete lack of credible porn in Korea are probably the root, cough, cause of these deaths. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Bunk on September 04, 2007, 06:26:25 AM I asked a buddy who met and married his wife in Korea. They actually had this discussion, quite seriously, over the use of fans.
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: schild on September 04, 2007, 07:21:21 AM It's hard to take a nation seriously when you find out that they are afraid of a device that MOVES AIR.
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Gutboy Barrelhouse on September 04, 2007, 08:01:34 AM I can see the Korean emergency alert system announce that "there are wind speeds clocked at 10 mph, so stay inside and play Starcraft!".
The real reason the Koreans spend so much time online............. Wind Fear! Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Polysorbate80 on September 04, 2007, 08:53:52 AM Is this a relatively recent thing? I lived in Seoul for 4 1/2 years and never heard of this rumor.
I also ran the fans non-stop day and night all summer, just like everyone else I knew. Because the apartments had zero fucking air conditioning. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: HaemishM on September 04, 2007, 09:50:13 AM What, no one here has ever gotten a cold from sleeping in a draft before? If I sleep with air of any kind blowing directly on my face, whether from the AC vent, ceiling fan or electric fan, I will wake up with one nostril completely blocked as if phlegm gnomes had built a nasal bypass during my REM periods. As a result, I tend to sleep with my head entirely under the covers. I've never died though, at least not that I know of. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Murgos on September 04, 2007, 10:49:26 AM :vv: ?
Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: WayAbvPar on September 04, 2007, 11:27:02 AM What, no one here has ever gotten a cold from sleeping in a draft before? If I sleep with air of any kind blowing directly on my face, whether from the AC vent, ceiling fan or electric fan, I will wake up with one nostril completely blocked as if phlegm gnomes had built a nasal bypass during my REM periods. As a result, I tend to sleep with my head entirely under the covers. I've never died though, at least not that I know of. My wife is the same way, which means I get to sleep in a stuffy room while she dozes peacefully. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: HaemishM on September 04, 2007, 11:27:36 AM :vv: ? I thirst for knowledge. I'm not sure if that translates into an insatiable desire to sup brains. Title: Re: Death by Electric Fan Post by: Murgos on September 04, 2007, 12:13:25 PM Well, you weren't sure if you had died. Just being careful.
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