f13.net

(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2859/f13shirtcl4.jpg)

Ok. So, lots of people ask, particularly after the hastily thrown together wallpaper, where are shirts. Right. Well, here's the problem. Cafepress is dick and I don't want to have to deal with shirts, so if someone has a company who will make, ship, and Not Take All the Profits, here's the deal. I'm willing to design shirts (and another person on the board is willing to also). But where do we have them made? While I'll be posting shirts in this thread, I suppose the more important part is the how, not the what. Anyway. Help? Anyone have a printing press or own a t-shirt company? (i lolled).

(I'm thinking of changing the grind background into a gear or treadmill shape)

I'd say the best bet for the initial run is to let people pre-order them.  This allows you* to get a correct volume quote, and order enough to fill demand without having to keep a stock.

*Or whatever shmuck you con into doing the legwork.

IMO, you can't go wrong with Black & White, but yeah, a background change would help. You have a cluttered background behind a distorted logo. Something solid and easily recognizable like a gear or treadmill would add weight and legibility to the foreground. But that's just me. I like clean and simple design because there is no goofing around involved.

I'm not really sure if you were looking for a critique or not  :-D

http://www.apollonova.com/warrenellis/index.html (http://www.apollonova.com/warrenellis/index.html)

Meh, I've put out a shitton of marketing material over the years, and I think it looks just fine.  The grinds in the background are fairly muted and don't overpower f13.
Also, I don't mean to be an ass, but that link you posted wasn't meant to be a brag book was it?  If so, I'm terribly sorry, I really am.

No, that's a link to the warren ellis logo with a gear behind it. I didn't mean gear so much as to put the grinds in a circle :P

As much as I love the site, I don't know about T-Shirt grinding as the means to get more epic loots. Why not let Signe design one?  :wink:

It will have lots of very cute penises.

I don't get the grinding for loots joke. I can change the word in the background to "internet" or "cockstab" or "zombie" as necessary.

I'd buy one. Maybe two.

Get back to me when we have f13.net shot glasses.  And maybe Haemish can whip up some Thundercunt coffee mugs.

Schlid, I could have it done in Tampa for about $9 apiece if you could get it down to straight black and white. Currently I'm working on a Chuck Norris's tears cure cancer shirt :)


I've used customink.com before and your design is somewhere around $14 USD per shirt.



Edit: I also don't mind running around looking at the T-Shirt design places around here. I live about five minutes from the USF campus and there are at least five places that make shirts. I wouldn't mind getting quotes/doing your bitchwork for you as long as I can get a shirt for free! :D

I think it'd look better with just the logo.

I'll buy three of the ones with cute penises.

I demand a Crotch Pheasant shirt. I would definitely buy the F13 one if it didn't have the grind in the background. The logo itself is love.

Get me a B/W of the f13 cutout; I can have a sample to you by Thursday of next week. *poke*

I have my own line of Game Angst shit, but since I not allowed to link to it from this site, I'll just be pissy and say that's a good idea I should have already thought of.

Since this *is* a gaming site, how about a mouse pad or similar?

I have enough black shirts with random logo on the front .. (not that I don't like the logo, I think it looks cool!).

I don't even get the joke, that's how deep it goes. How about a carrot on a stick with the F13 logo under it?

EDIT: Better yet, fuck shirts. Let's put the F13 logo on Berets. Do you realize how awesome that would be?

Don't start fucking with a gamers mouse surface.  Mine was created with a secret formulation of plastic, win, and the foreskins of freshly circumcized arab children (you don't think they let the mohels in training practice on jews, do you?).
Berets are just too french, why not just print the logo on some white flags? You've got a built in market if you're targetting the french.

My vote goes for hats/visors.
(http://www.pricebustergolf.co.uk/ishop/images/1035/MI_visor.jpg)

I'll take one in black.

Come on, someone must have a lot of free time....

http://nomediakings.org/doityourself/howto_silkscreen_posters_and_shirts.html (http://nomediakings.org/doityourself/howto_silkscreen_posters_and_shirts.html)

No mouse pads- my LtM one is still working fine  :-D

I am good for at least 1 shirt of every design, provided that they come in the proper size. Just knock the poles out of tent, slap the graphics on it, and ship it to me.

People still use mousepads?

Also, we used to silkscreen our own shirts for the band. But no, not gunna doit.

The scraping sound of a mouse across a desk is annoying. Plus I like the angle of my hand on the mouse better. Plus it is from LUM! It is old school and cool and shit.

I'm still using my LtM mouse pad too!  It's rather ragged at this point though and I'd love to retire it with the help of an f13 replacement.  I'd buy a shirt too.

If I had f13 pads, I'd want them made by Razer or IceMat.

Holy crap. (http://www.icemat.com/products/icematgear/custom-branded_icemats)

What are you waiting for? Get us a mouse too while yer at it.

How about a big vinyl sticker for the hood of my ricer too?

I was thinking of making laser engraved carbon fiber hoods.

Ill take a shit if they get made. As long as they arnt in that crappy super thin t-shirt material.

Also, what about changing "Grind" to "Hate".

It's not 1997.

Teenagers don't even wear shirts with the word "hate" on them.

Edit: Sorry if that sounded like a slight, I just felt no reason not to be blunt.

Also, grind goes better with cute penises.

Not with mine.

I'll just pop in and say that I too would enjoy wearing a shirt to work that confused everyone around me. Just no ground up penisi please.

You could have a tiny hamster wheel for the 'dot'.

Isnt that be a positive? Or is the point to sell f13 shits to emo teenagers?

I see what you tried to do there.

I'd buy one, just so people would ask what f13 means.

I'd buy one of the ones in the OP. And an F13 Icemat pad for home, since I have my bitchin' real-leather Witcher mousepad at work.

How about some white or grey or anything-but-black shirts after this one, though? I have enough black in my closet as is.

I only picked black because of the grey and white stuff in this particular picture.

Actually, I think it'd look really wicked on a hat ..

Yea, a hat would be neat, I'd have to find an AWESOME embroidererererer.

Fuck it, I'll buy two, because I really really want them to get made.  Tell me where to send the money and I'm so there.

My friends would probably be glad I was wearing something random and confusing as opposed to bright orange Bengals gear on the weekends.

Plus once I put the shirt on I can go to Sega and Linden Labs and the other companies still in SF and harass people and they will email Schild about it to bitch, which would be awesome.

Now that's an idea, I wonder how much it costs to do!

http://www.icemat.com/products/icematgear/custom-branded_icemats (http://www.icemat.com/products/icematgear/custom-branded_icemats)

From the Icemat site-



And you want to trust these retards to do something besides eat boogers and whack off to anime?

They're Danish.

The pads are edible too?

It's all automated stateside, and you won't start seeing any pricebreaks using starving chinese until the orders hit 200K+/lot.

Only problem with the Icemats is the minimum order of 200.

Unless someone's interested in breaking glass mouse surfaces with their awesome kicks, I don't know how feasible of a number that is.

Sure we can. "If you want to be eligible for an X beta invite, simply buy a mousepad!"

I'd go for a hat fo' sure.  I'm full up on T-shirts, seeing as I only wear them 2 days a week.   Hell, I'm still wearing some from my first year of college and they aren't tattered/ faded.


Tinkerbelle's been spanked, hasn't she? Awesome naughty avatar.

I have too many black shirts.  Everyone makes black shirts these days.  Make a shirt in anything other than black and I will buy it.

(edit) This place (http://www.clothingwarehouse.com/custom-imprinting.html) makes decent enough shirts.

But black is slimming, and you look edgy.

I agree with black.  You can never be too slim or too edgy.

No idea if the embroidery price is standard or cheap for the industry, but a 6" X 1.5"  logo winds-up around $166 using their numbers.  That's a lot of items to make-back that cost.  Pity. 

I was thinking more along the lines of printing.  The wallpaper design is one-color, which means a one-time setup charge of $15 for a minimum of a dozen shirts.  That's pretty dang reasonable.  And they use third-party shirt brands, so you get some measure of control over the quality of the shirt itself (unlike, say, Cafe Press, which used to use some really horrible paper-thin shirts for all their stuff).

I got one of Haemish's "SB.EXE" t-shirts for Righ from Cafe Press, the organic one, and it was really nice. 

I did say used to.  The last time I got one the quality had improved dramatically.  I still don't entirely trust them.   :angryfist:

I figured, but I still like the hat idea.  And hay, they do towels and duffels and coats too!  :-D

Just black with this logo pls:

(http://forums.f13.net/Themes/f13/images/f13logo.jpg)

YES! F13 Towels! Hai guyz lookit mah f13 towel of sexyness!


I think I'd actually buy a duffel though.

(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9092/collisionzomgpq1.jpg)

I liked the original design schild posted. I'm currently oversubscribed with black T-shirts though. You should have put the logo on a pair of Vans slip-ons.

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5025/chartszomgxx2.jpg)

I know these suck, but leave me alone - I'm having fun.

If it were a real chart, I'd buy one. Instead it just looks like a horrible penis on a graph.


Would it be possible for Samprimary to license schlid to put his comics on the t-shirts? You'd sell hundreds.

You need to visit your physician as a matter of some urgency.

You took out the word horrible. I'm calling shenanigans on ur lulz.

I see your failed lulz and raise you one. Yay ellipsis?

It is so tempting. I just read a primer on silk screening T-shirts. It is a cottage industry. And as some one else said theres money floating around these forums. You could do it and keep your day job. My only problem is it would interfer with my drinking or my drinking would interfer with it.

I think I'm going to screw around in MSPaint and come up with something to put on a t-shirt resembling f13 at this local place. I'll take a picture and post it.

Well played...

and come to think of it...

(http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/6849/zomgmemevz9.jpg)

Come on!! You can work "I polish my armor with your tears" in there some where!

And I only remembered FIFY about two seconds after posting ...  :cry:

An "Internet Detective" shirt might be amusing also.

Taglines can be rough to write.

How about Meow, meow, we like carebear tears?


Edit: Where'd the A come from? :P

That's your Google-fu that is. Mine comes at the top.

Thats money. Do you take debit cards?

I screen-printed all of my own (stupid, political) t-shirts in high school, and worked at a sports company as a screenprinter full-time for a year before college. It is hell of easy. I am NOT volunteering, but I'm sure you can find someone here with a press and a lightbox to do this shit for you.

I would buy a couple of those designs in a gray baby-doll.

ME TOO!

Improving on the meme thing - I forgot the armour/tears one again...

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7462/zomgmemeye9.jpg)

And as per request above...

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/376/idszomgdp4.jpg)

Well played. Thanks. :)

Blah. I guess I'll have to take a picture of myself with it on. Imageshack yanked my picture. It wasn't even obscene, and plus, I drew it myself.

Bullshit.

What's a brag book? No it wasn't a link to anything I own. I just noticed that one of the Ts had a gear in the background and linked it.

P.S. And I would pay money for a coffee mug with "Thundercunt" on it.

I'll try to knock one out this weekend. Since, you know, there's money involved.

Hmmm, these shirts are kinda muh.

I don't know what "muh" means.  Google didn't help me.   :oops:

It's a Muhxican thing. He wants more gang symbols and virgin mary statues.

How about Mary throwing a sign and holding a NeoGeo?  That would be awesome.

Ha that would be a funny shirt. No I was just stating that the shirts were kinda boring. I have seen Schild make better shirts so. Yeah. I guess I am just not too crazy about the logo. But at least there is a shirt though, so that is cool.

Whatever; give me a link and I will purchase.

Same, more shirts less faggy crying about having too many black shirts kthx.

anandtech thread (http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=40&threadid=2083054&FTVAR_STKEYWORDFRM=&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear) I have not used these guys but they are cheap and the anandtech guys usually weed out the scammers and whatnot given a bit of time.

I was talking to VDL last night about chef aprons and decided I wanted an F13 apron that said "Grinding 4 Cooking Skillz"

Bake Bread 2 Crush?

To be fair, said Virgin Mary should be depicted in a half-bathtub backdrop for authenticity.

Srsly, where's my fucking shirt guys.

The details are being worked out. Patience, young one. Not all of us have backyard screen-printing presses, just VDL.

These are awesome. I'd buy them :)

Make one with the original awesome chart. The one that has negative post-trammel subs :)

Or.. PK'd ur flax!

I'll buy one to go with my I PWN hat.

I've submitted some questions to Icemat about what a 200 piece run would cost and what the turnaround time would be. I don't know if we can get 200 people to preorder such a thing, but if we did - aweeeeeeeeeeesome. Don't ask any questions about it, I'll post pricing as soon as I find out what costs will be. Since they run $25-$40 at retail, I'd have to assume around $50. Trust me when I say it's an amazing mouse pad though.

mouse pad < shirt

Unless people are wearing their mouse pads in public.  I have not gone to the mall lately, but I thought we were still in the baggy-pants era.

Two mouse pads for the womens.

If CafePress is dick did you try Zazzle? Looks like Zazzle only gives you 17% though. I thought you can make as much as you want with CafePress. There is a baseline price for the items and you tack whatever price you want on top of it. The CafePress printing isn't as shitty as it use to be.

Its the materials not the printing that sucks for cafepress, I think you can make them use non sucky cheapo cotton but it costs a bunch more.

Can something be done with this?  Maybe somewhere's discrete?

(http://images.escapistmag.com/thumbs/84324.jpg)

I'm going to be working on this a lot after my surgery. It's written in stone. Because I'll have nothing to do for a week or two.

Shirts.



Fuck yah.

Genius.

Any News?

News will come when there is news. Shirts are, at the moment, not at the top of the List of Things That Need Doing at the moment.

You said "at the moment" twice in the same sentence!  (http://www.invision.smileyville.net/smilies/girl%20(14).gif)

Have you thought about using  :awesome_for_real: on an f13 shirt? That emote seems to be the mascot of this den.

I'd buy that, but it needs to say "Totally awesome. For real." somewhere

Some of my faves from this place that sells t-shirts.
 (http://threadpit.com/store/home.php?flyer=burger)

(http://threadpit.com/store/watermark/picgen.php?src=null&wmk=245.png&img=245&make=master&productid=245)

(http://threadpit.com/store/watermark/picgen.php?src=null&wmk=241.png&img=241&make=thumb)

(http://threadpit.com/store/skin1/images/clear.gif)

Schild, we all want to give you money, give us some motherfucking shirts!

How hard is it to put  :awesome_for_real: on a shirt with f13.net somewhere, someone needs to get on this and rape my wallet.

Yeah I want a mousepad too, been putting off getting a legit mousepad for awhile because you said you were going to make one...

f13 :awesome_for_real: net

Will have news on this uhmmmm, this week.

Because I've already put money into it.

Key Things to Know:
Each Design Will Be Limited.
Designs will last a month a piece.
I would like to have a new design each month, I might make a thread for submissions.
There will be things besides t-shirts.
Girly bits of clothing will probably be limited to like 2 or 3. Because uhhh, I think we have 7 girls here.

What if I want something for my wife?

I'm pro-shirts period but does it really make sense to do monthly limited runs?  I mean how many f13 shirts can a single person own before it gets kinda... odd.  Besides you that is Schild, since its your site.  I've always imagined there would be "the f13 shirt" not that I mind, I could see myself owning 2-3 if the f13 part is a bit low-key on most of them.

Also lol @ girlie bits, what's the prize for first person who posts pics of a girl wearing said girlie bits?  This is the internet afterall, that really has to be a competition doesn't it?

P.S.  Does this mean I should buy my own icemat that doesn't say anything cool on it?  I'm guessing yes.

If there were 366 f13 shirts schild would wear one everyday and dream of wearing that last one on the next leap year.

Buying a F13 item for your wife sounds dangerous.  I'll stick with gift cards.

...I don't really have a wife.  Schild or Ookii were supposed to chime in with something about how pathetically single I am, and I was going to saw something like "Well, I might someday..."

Poor planning on my part =(

Can I say that I mean the Royal You?

I'm going to allow it.

Owning a shirt would be like admitting that I know you people.  I need to think about this. 

I was going to but I didn't want to embarass you in this public forum of your peers.

Suck it fatty.

How limited are the designs going to be? I don't want to have to camp the boards like EQ just to get a shirt.  :uhrr:

Was going to do new designs either once a month, or once every 2 weeks. Haven't decided.

And a lot, none of them will say .net prominently some might not even say f13.

There will be smiley shirts also. Those will be seperate and not limited I think.

I don't know about the pricing. Mostly because it depends on the design. T-shirts, depending on whether they're heavy-knit or light knit will be between $16 and $20. Polos will be $25-30. Things like that, etc.

There will be a shitty cheap mousepad with :awesome_for_real: on it. I might do one for each smiley though. Or a series. Haven't decided.

Icemat runs are too expensive.

Heh.

If the polo isn't loud, I'm totally buying one to wear when I work Gamestop.

Apropos Advertising, yo. :oh_i_see:

Technically speaking, there will be loud and not loud variants of most of the shirts.

Also, plans for a couple hoodies.

If they are awesome I will buy heaps no matter that I am dirt poor. I love t-shirts!

I believe you also need money hats....or some other thing involving money hats.

OR...the Necropost guy.

Alright.

Prototype of a shirt and another item have been ordered by myself and a few others. Will post pictures and launch when they arrive.

Every item is limited from 25-50 of them.

I'll be forward with you - there is a $2-$4 commission on every item. This shit took time to put together.

Anyway, yea. News with arrival.

Here's a preview:

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1986/awesomeforrealrx1.png)

Store Announcement this afternoon. Probably around 9-10PM EST.

You're a cock tease. I swear to god it better be a :awesome_for_real: shirt. I've been pimping that smiley all up in everyones face for the past month or so. I even went so far to make a 50x50 gif for MSN so it was more "IN YO FACE!"

Also, does this run include femme shirts?

No femme shirts.

You're still a cock tease.