f13.net

Seems like Google is modern age equivalent of RealNetwork - you can hardly get anything without annoying googlebar installed. I'm restoring my SO's machine and looking for Firefox 2 download without googlebar. Is it even possible to get it anymore?

Are you sure http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/) has the Googlebar integrated? I always use this link and I don't think I ever had it install that crap.

If you're talking about the google search box (which isn't the toolbar, just that search box), you can turn it off either in options or by right clicking the toolbars and deselecting the google search box.

Al Gore sold Google the Intarweb for a song after he lost the primaries in 2004.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

I love that little search bar! Wikipedia, Google Maps, CPAN, if search here didn't suck, I'd make one for F13.

It's not a googlebar.  It's a search window that can do google, yahoo, answer, amazon, ebay, creative commons and whatever the fuck else you want to configure it for.

Are you sure you should be navigating the intarweb without supervision?

Seems like Firefox and firefox.com got hijacked by google and only unbundled site left is Mozilla. Not surprisingly google is biased in its search toward google-bar bundled sites. Strangely, if you do search for firefox out of firefox you get directed to mozilla site.

I was talking about  this (http://www.mozillafirefox.us).

Never seen that before in my life.

What does this have to do with PC/Console Gaming?

You haven't heard of the underground No-Google-Toolbar Firefox Game? It's amazing. It's much better than any game currently on the market.


Fair question; why not just off it to the Den?

People have been treating the forum as a generic pc forum for a while.

Yeah.  If you use the firefox.com site, you get the normal Firefox (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/).  Surfing the net must be hard for you.


Oh and by the way, typing in www.firefox.com led me to the URL in that link above.  So Google hasn't hijacked shit.  In fact, the link you provide isn't even owned by Mozilla.  Here's the Whois lookup (http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=mozillafirefox&tld=us) for that URL.

I retract my earlier surfing the net comment.  It IS hard for you.

I have always just gone to mozilla.org . Never realized that people would google for firefox to find it.


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Google pays people to get other people to install FireFox w/ the bundled toolbar. That's why there are a bunch of sites with it.

Why the hell would you NOT want the Googlebar?  The Googlebar is love.  I can't even imagine using a browser without built-in Googling at this point.  It'd be like using a mouse with one button and no wheel.

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As mentioned above Firefox already has a built-in Googling feature and you can point it at other search engines if you want. It doesn't have all the features of the toolbar (can't view Page Rank, for example) but if you just want to search it works exactly the same way except for one thing: searches appear in the active tab which bites big time. Hence I have the toolbar installed in my Firefox because that you can configure to open a search in a new tab.

All but certain this is default behavior... if you middle-mouse-button click on the search button next to the bar, it'll open up the search in a new tab. Works the same way as middle-mouse-clicking on links in general.

I don't want to middle click on anything, that's way too inefficient. I want to hit Enter after I type in the search string and have it open in a new tab. Opera and Safari do this correctly but Firefox doesn't.

I middle click ALL DAY. I frickin love middle click, since I rest my index finger on the rollbar.

Sure, when my hand is on my mouse I middle click all the time to paste stuff (in my terminal app) and open up links in new tabs, close tabs, etc. However if I'm typing a search string my hand is off the mouse. Making me reach for the mouse just so I can open it up in a new tab, which should already be the default behavior or at the very least configurable, is bad.

Same reason I wouldn't want RealPlayer or Bonzai Buddy on my machine.

Highlight a word, rightclick, pick "search for xx on <engine in search bar>"

It even opens it in a new tab. Oooh, ahhh.

The built-in Firefox search box is a barely passable substitute.  Where's the image search button?  Where's the search term highlighter?  Where's the magic "common searches" suggestion dealy so I almost never have to type in more than the first five letters of a search before it's on the screen?  D minus.

Also, highlight and right click?  I guess that might be useful in the 1% of cases where I'm searching for something that's conveniently referenced on the page I'm already looking at.

I suppose power web browsing is beyond me then, because if I'm googleing something it's usually because it IS referenced on the page I'm reading.  The other stuff you've mentioned? I've done one of them, an image search, and those are usually just for the image relation threads.   Not to mention I hate running extra apps on my machine.. applets that startup at windows login drive me fucking batty.  The fewer things in my systray and resident memory, the happier I am.


"googleing" to the dictionary.

Try setting up some quicksearches. I can tyle 'gis Moobs' in my address bar and it will do a google image search for Moobs. 'imdb David Bowie' will search IMDB for David Bowie and 'wikip Encyclopedia' will search wikipedia... 'wikiw' for wowwiki and 'wowh' for wowhead. it's really easy too, just make a bookmark and put the url for a search in with '%s' susbstituted for the search string like:


and in the Keyword textbox put the abbreviation you want to use to trigger it.

Mine works this way.  If you go to Options -> Tabbed Browsing -> User Interface, look at the bottom.

I don't see such options in my Firefox 2.0.0.4. I see Options -> Tabs and then some selections but no "User Inteface" section.

There's a tabbed browsing plugin that adds those.  I think this (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/158) is the one.

Yes. This is why most of us don't install software from strange URLs owned by people trying to maximize ad revenue at the expense of unrelated software developers through dodgy URL camping.

Hey, well now I don't need the toolbar anymore.

I was under the impression that the TabbrowserPreferences plugin was standard.  It Makes Tabs Tolerable.  Sorry for the confusion.