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Hey, any movie bearing the title "The Passion of the Clerks" deserves both to be made and to be released.

It should really be animated though. Clerks was an art fags dream. Clerks 2 should be a wild saturday morning cartoon romp.

Interesting...I seem to recall him claiming J&SBSB to be the final movie in the "Jersey group".

I doubt I'll want to see "Clerks 2" since I liked the original ending of "Clerks" where Dante gets shot.

I am obviously missing something. Why would Clerks 2 be animated or anything other than live action? Did Smith ever say he was going to make an animated Clerks 2?

I don't follow the guy very much at all. I have seen Clerks (liked it a lot), Mallrats (thought it sucked ass, despised all the characters and was hoping strongly against a 'happy' ending for those fucktards), Chasing Amy (mediocre at best), Dogma (liked it a lot), and thats all.

Any outrage at a Clerks 2 movie is just baffling to me.

hehe. Every time someone mentions Clerks, I cant help but think of these guys (http://www.trooperclerks.com/).

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:39 am    Post subject: Thoughts on "C2" (UPDATED)  

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- This isn't gonna be a cameo-heavy affair, a'la "Strike Back." The only returning characters are Dante and Randal, and Jay and Silent Bob.

- This isn't gonna be a star-studded affair. The biggest names in the cast are gonna be Brian O'Halloran, Jeff Anderson, and Jason Mewes.

- This isn't an "I'm not even supposed to be here today... AGAIN!"-heavy, wink-wink affair. We barely refer to the first flick (though I do love Lynch's proposed tagline of "They Still Don't Like You"; considering the tone of the script, an even more appropriate tagline would be "They Like You Even Less").

- Jay and Silent Bob have about as much screen time as they had in "Clerks." This is Dante and Randal's flick all the way.

- The title makes sense. Sure, there's a bit of cheekiness in there, but it's pretty appropriate, based on the material.

- This is the funniest thing I've ever written. It's also really poignant.

- We'll still be making a "Clerks" cartoon movie, separate of this.

- This is not a grab at the green. Saying so is kinda laughable, if you're privy to what I make per film now, vs. what I'll make for this film. Part of the idea about doing "Passion" is to strip away the trappings of success we've been enjoying for the last few years, in an effort to get to the raw and pure. None of us are making our usual salaries on this flick; we're all doing it favored-nations style, with deferments. If the flick does well, we'll get paid our full-freight on the back-end. If not, we did it for the love. But if I was "all about the green", I'd be gearing up for "Hornet" or "Fletch" instead. This one's about the passion; the passion of the "Clerks."

- Some of the key players from the "Clerks" saga who've already read the 143 page first draft: Mos, Jeff, Brian, John Pierson, Bob Hawk. Jay's reading the new, refined 119 page second draft this week. Once they were all on board, any doubt or hesitation I might've felt about monkeying with the original's legacy disappeared completely.

- This isn't about "Jersey Girl." While disappointed that we didn't do double the theatrical business we crawled to, I understand why what happened to that flick happened (considering how poorly "Gigli" did, I consider us kinda lucky that we got to 25m). If this is a reaction to anything, it's more of a reaction to "Green Hornet", and the trajectory my budgets have been taking lately. Before (and if) I direct "Hornet", I wanted to do something small and more me-like. While working on the "Clerks X" dvd, it became clear to me that "Passion" was the way to go.

- We almost did this flick three years ago, instead of "Strike Back." I'm glad we didn't, because I was able to say much more now than I would've then.

- There are gonna be lots of folks expressing disappointment or downright hostility with the idea of this movie. Let 'em vent. If it's all that bad, Xtian will just sweep it off the board. But the last thing I'm interested in is opinions on what I'm doing this early in the process, if at all. The beauty of making that first flick was being able to do it in a vacuum. Granted, I could've kept my mouth shut about it 'til we were done shooting; but with "Clerks X" coming out, it just felt right to share. Regardless - I don't want folks running here with reports of what's being said about the idea of this film at other boards. Don't waste your/my time with the braying of the jackasses. There's not even a movie to bray about yet. Once there is, if you still still feel the need to tell me what some random, knuckle-headed Talk Backer has to say about the finished product, then God bless. But until then, leave it in the locker room.

- Oh, who am I kidding? This flick makes me so happy, I'm not even bothered by the bitching (could still be even happier without it, though). I'm in love with this flick. If other folks aren't, I can't really say I'm concerned. I've read the script; they haven't. I have the benefit of insight into the flick beyond the title and the notion of it; they don't. The reaction is pretty much what I thought it'd be: a ton of positive, and minimal amount of bitching. Even if the equation was reversed, I'd still feel as good as I do now.

- At this point in my life, this flick makes absolute fucking sense.

- I can't wait to shoot it, and I can't wait 'til you all see it.

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- That storyline about Dante and Randal shooting a movie about working at the Quick Stop is the plot of the "Clerks" CARTOON movie. It's secure. The plot of "PotC" is something completely different.

- The flick does NOT employ the tone of the "Clerks" cartoon. It's OG "Clerks" all the way.

- The flick's in both black & white and color.

- Having not seen "South Park" since season two (unless you count the movie), I was unaware they did an episode called "The Passion of the Jew." I don't know how (or if) this info will affect our title.

- There will be no "reunions" or "crossovers" in the flick. Again - the only characters returning are Dante, Randal, Jay, and Bob.

More info when the questions pile up...

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I am interested to see if it turns out well, and I'll probably go see it, but the title sucks.

Needs to be Clerks 2: Electric Boogaloo

It can't be. Passion of the Clerks is a parody, not a direct ripoff.

Electric Boogaloo would give the creates of "Breakin 2: Electric Boogaloo" a phat paycheck. The moneyz, as it were.

Nice use of the best Anthrax-song-that-doesn't-have-Public-Enemy-in-it

Necro'd for the teaser trailer, cause I know some of you guys just can't let this Kevin Smith shit go.

http://www.clerks2.com/teaser/

Nice use of the best Anthrax-song-that-doesn't-have-Public-Enemy-in-it, but a really odd choice to go with "no talking" for a guy whose whole shtick is awkward dialogue and nerdy in-jokes.

Efilnikufecin?
I am the Law?

Among the Law.  I'm hopeful for the movie.  Rosario is hawt.

She is hawt, but every time I have seen her outside of a script she has seemed like she Can't Understand Normal Thinking.

The thing I'm most surprised by, really, is that I would have thought that Affleck and Lee had "paid their debt" to Smith with that last one.  Guess not!

Man, I'm a huge idiot.  For some reason I thought Murgos was challenging my weak assertion by presenting better Anthrax songs.  But I'm pretty sure it's Among the Living...  The chorus is fuzzy in my head but there was some "receeding... he's falling... among.. the... living!".  Or something like that.

The thing I'm most surprised by, really, is that I would have thought that Affleck and Lee had "paid their debt" to Smith with that last one.  Guess not!