Title: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Simond on June 11, 2007, 02:57:41 PM http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=14275
Quote "FreeRealms is fantasy, but it’s whimsical fantasy. It’s not RMT per se, the idea of selling special customizations is key. You can play the game completely free. It’s ad-supported, you can customize your avatar to your heart’s content, then there will sort of be an additional catalogue of items we’ll be selling that will allow people to customize even further." He particularly noted: "It’s our first experiment in the fantasy space with this concept, what we call the ‘velvet rope’ model. We’re taking our cues from some of the other successful games in the Asian market, titles like Kart Rider. You know, Mario Kart except you buy your power ups? Games designed around that concept can be very successful, without the problems we see in unsupervised RMT. I want to expand the concept of customization into player selling to one another, and creating for one another. FreeRealms is going to be a big push in that direction." When pushed further on some of the unique aspects for FreeRealms, Smedley explained: "One of the key features of the game is the notion of creating content for other players. We don’t want to evoke the feeling of ‘typical MMO’, we want a ‘crazy place you go to have fun.’ One day you might be on a race track, one day you might be on a soccer field, the next day you might be playing chess … or, you know, you can go fight some trolls." He continued: "Our big goals with the game are whimsy and accessibility. User-generated content: I want to get it out of the space of buzzwords and into the game. Everybody talks about it, but it’s hard to pin down. I rather give people some lines, and say “color inside these any way you want.” Then you can’t just generate whatever you want, but you have users creating content themed towards our goals." So how is this going to be possible? "We’re developing fairly robust tools towards that end. How about letting players make their own mini-games? The UI toolset we’re using is called ScaleForm, and our goal is to take UI customization to a level no one has seen before. This is being created right now, as we speak, and one of the goals is modification of the client/server interactions in ways that other players can see. It’s going to be pretty awesome." http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/11/business/worldbusiness/11sony.html?_r=2&ref=business&oref=slogin&oref=slogin Quote While the company’s traditional fantasy and science-fiction games have been aimed at a hard-core male audience, Free Realms is basically aimed at children, especially girls. The game will be free to play in general, but will require paid membership for access to special zones and activities (hence the term “velvet rope”). In terms of microtransactions, players will be able to buy virtual in-game items like pets and clothing à la carte. And there may also be advertising inside the game. To reach out to girls, Mr. Smedley realized he had to hire more women. The creative director and art director on the game are now women. “I just can’t explain to a 30-year-old single male why 10-year-old girls like horses,” he said. “We were trying to figure out what pets to put into Free Realms and before, the lead designer was a guy and he definitely wanted things that could fight. And when we got more women on the team, it was like ‘No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there.’ ” I...I just don't know. :| Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Nonentity on June 11, 2007, 03:09:45 PM I... huh.
This sounds kind of like the thing that Three Rings is doing (the puzzle pirates guys), in that 'Whirled' game. http://www.threerings.net/whirled/ Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Venkman on June 11, 2007, 03:17:09 PM I don't either. Honestly, this concept by itself has potential in that it's derivative of the types of MMOGs targeting emerging audiences by lowering the barrier to entry. But the reason SOE is shooting for numbers far larger than WoW is because this model (microtrans, with or without ad-revenue) requires far larger numbers than WoW, and because they think it's achievable due to what Habbo, Maplestory, Audition, Krazykart and a few others have achieved.
At the same time, all of that achievement has happened everywhere except the one market in which SOE has seen the bulk of its success. Quote the lead designer was a guy and he definitely wanted things that could fight. And when we got more women on the team, it was like ‘No, no, no. We need puppies and horses in there. This is both sexist and, unfortunately, quite true of the industry. Nobody needs to look any further than the vast majority of games being sold to see the percentage of men in this industry. We're not talking "more than half" here either. It's how far into the 90th percent we are.You need a good team that can look beyond their own rose-colored past, to understand consumer research, and has the support of their management. The notion that only one gender can talk about that gender is why things are in such a mess to begin with. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: schild on June 11, 2007, 03:31:19 PM Paging Mahrin Skel.
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Krakrok on June 11, 2007, 03:58:40 PM Word Mark FREEREALMS
Filing Date July 27, 2005 Owner (APPLICANT) Sony Online Entertainment Inc. CORPORATION DELAWARE 10202 W. Washington Blvd. Culver City CALIFORNIA 90232 Domain Name: FREEREALMS.COM Name Server: NS1.SONYONLINE.NET Creation Date: 28-jun-2005 So it's been in developement for almost two years exactly. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Righ on June 11, 2007, 06:59:58 PM Maybe more, maybe less. They pre-emptively register lots of domains, and they may assign games to them later for all we know. Perhaps they once intended to call it sadbird or soapwheel. ;)
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Krakrok on June 11, 2007, 07:09:05 PM They should just cut straight to the chase and call it 'Horses, Kittens, and Puppies, Oh My!'. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Righ on June 11, 2007, 07:14:06 PM Rabbits, ponies and kittens, oh my! RPK Online.
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Viin on June 11, 2007, 08:55:03 PM Well, at least they decided to hire two women into the team. Having 2 women out of ~50 positions will surely help them reach out to women gamers.
Err. Green. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: pxib on June 11, 2007, 09:11:05 PM Sorry, Sony. There's no there There (http://www.there.com/).
Just because it's your accounting department's wet dream doesn't mean it's anybody's reality. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Trippy on June 11, 2007, 10:39:26 PM There didn't have horses, though.
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Raph on June 11, 2007, 11:31:33 PM And actually, There has done just dandy in its new skins "Virtual Laguna Beach" "The Hills" and "Pimp My Ride." Together, they're definitely larger than EQ, possibly larger than EQ + EQ2.
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Endie on June 12, 2007, 03:56:25 AM The second I read the OP, i thought "Raph". Were you involved back in its early days? Did it draw on some stuff you wrote about?
And, um, does it compete in the same space as a certain other upcoming product about which just about everyone has had a guess (http://endie.net/cs/blogs/endie/archive/2006/12/22/Raphcasting_and_Areae.aspx)? Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Hoax on June 12, 2007, 07:25:32 AM Good idea, about time a western dev house w/ some money took this game model seriously. I'm not super thrilled they are going with the kiddy/girl/social/pet/avatar angle, but I'm not surprised and I dont think its a bad idea either.
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: HaemishM on June 12, 2007, 09:37:33 AM My first thought was, "It's SOE. You know they'll fuck it up somewhere."
But then I saw IT HAS PUPPIES! And I knew everything would be all right. PUPPIES! Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Yegolev on June 12, 2007, 10:44:25 AM Reading that, I suddenly smelled fat stacks of cash. I predict it will do well. Big name, casual market, etc.
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Merusk on June 12, 2007, 02:35:02 PM Good idea, about time a western dev house w/ some money took this game model seriously. I'm not super thrilled they are going with the kiddy/girl/social/pet/avatar angle, but I'm not surprised and I dont think its a bad idea either. You don't have a little girl. It's very fucking hard for daddy to say, "No." Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: SnakeCharmer on June 12, 2007, 02:40:21 PM My first thought was, "It's SOE. You know they'll fuck it up somewhere." But then I saw IT HAS PUPPIES! And I knew everything would be all right. PUPPIES! (http://arniemarge.tripod.com/arniepups5.jpg) Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: schild on June 12, 2007, 02:49:21 PM (http://arniemarge.tripod.com/arniepups5.jpg) (http://pulse2.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/geocities_logo.png) Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Nonentity on June 12, 2007, 02:51:40 PM Jesus - people still use Tripod?
That's like hosting an animated gif on Geocities. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Signe on June 12, 2007, 03:25:15 PM Love this game.
(http://arniemarge.tripod.com/arniepups5.jpg) (http://pulse2.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/geocities_logo.png) (http://af.lygo.com/d/common/logo.gif) Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: schild on June 12, 2007, 03:27:05 PM Love this game. (http://www.teevblogger.com/images/aol_logo0406.jpg)(http://arniemarge.tripod.com/arniepups5.jpg) (http://pulse2.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/geocities_logo.png)Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: raydeen on June 12, 2007, 04:28:27 PM Love this game. (http://www.teevblogger.com/images/aol_logo0406.jpg)(http://arniemarge.tripod.com/arniepups5.jpg) (http://pulse2.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/geocities_logo.png)Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Montague on June 12, 2007, 04:34:22 PM Love this game. (http://www.teevblogger.com/images/aol_logo0406.jpg)(http://arniemarge.tripod.com/arniepups5.jpg) (http://pulse2.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/geocities_logo.png)(http://www.gamesindustry.biz/images/IonStorm_logo.jpg) Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: schild on June 12, 2007, 04:45:40 PM Shit. Wicked burn.
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Montague on June 12, 2007, 05:00:59 PM Shit. Wicked burn. I didn't want to have to go nuclear but with the rapid escalation I felt I had no choice. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: schild on June 12, 2007, 05:34:03 PM Shit. Wicked burn. I didn't want to have to go nuclear but with the rapid escalation I felt I had no choice.Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: SnakeCharmer on June 12, 2007, 05:36:04 PM I'm missing something and I have no idea what it is.
The puppies are cute though, you have to admit. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: schild on June 12, 2007, 05:46:17 PM I'm missing something and I have no idea what it is. The puppies are cute though, you have to admit. You linked to a picture that you no doubt have cached that was hosted at Tripod. Obviously the joke isn't funny anymore. Can't be helped. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: SnakeCharmer on June 12, 2007, 07:24:37 PM Actually I did a search for boxer puppies after the big blazin' exclamation by Haem.
*shrug* I'm not up on my intarweb humor I suppose. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Simond on June 13, 2007, 02:56:15 AM Rule 94: Thou shalt not leech images from random site you find on Google, as they can be replaced with goatse at any time.
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Endie on June 13, 2007, 03:04:47 AM Actually I did a search for boxer puppies after the big blazin' exclamation by Haem. I'm sorry I missed that now: I love boxers. As in the dogs. But according to the wife they drool too much so I have collies instead. They'll have to suffice instead. Sadly, I was unable to host them on compuserve. (http://endie.net/images/blog/misc/16122006222.jpg) Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: MrHat on June 13, 2007, 04:27:51 AM Rule 94: Thou shalt not leech images from random site you find on Google, as they can be replaced with goatse at any time. I'm still sorry for that incident. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: vex on June 13, 2007, 05:20:42 AM I'm sorry I missed that now: I love boxers. As in the dogs. But according to the wife they drool too much so I have collies instead. They'll have to suffice instead. Sadly, I was unable to host them on compuserve. Why wouldn't you just keep your dogs at home with you? V Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Endie on June 13, 2007, 06:47:48 AM I'm sorry I missed that now: I love boxers. As in the dogs. But according to the wife they drool too much so I have collies instead. They'll have to suffice instead. Sadly, I was unable to host them on compuserve. Why wouldn't you just keep your dogs at home with you? V :rimshot: I'll keep setting 'em up, you keep knocking 'em away. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Slayerik on June 13, 2007, 08:08:14 AM Good idea, about time a western dev house w/ some money took this game model seriously. I'm not super thrilled they are going with the kiddy/girl/social/pet/avatar angle, but I'm not surprised and I dont think its a bad idea either. You don't have a little girl. It's very fucking hard for daddy to say, "No." As hard as it is, there is no way I'm letting my little girl near an SOE product. Daddy has learned over the years! That will most likely cause her to rebel and see SOE anyways, but fuck it...I just couldn't live with myself if I didn't try to stop the madness. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Signe on June 13, 2007, 09:04:43 AM I admire your bizarre parenting style.
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Righ on June 13, 2007, 09:14:26 AM If he does that, daddy's little girl will probably get caught fellating a CCP dev in 0.0 space instead.
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: SnakeCharmer on June 13, 2007, 09:19:40 AM That's just beyond fucked up, man.
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Slayerik on June 13, 2007, 09:22:04 AM If he does that, daddy's little girl will probably get caught fellating a CCP dev in 0.0 space instead. Oh, I got a shotgun for those immoral, cheating CCP bastards! Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: CharlieMopps on June 13, 2007, 09:47:43 AM So they are making a game that will appeal to gradeschoolers... that the players can script their own content into... anyone else see a problem with that?
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: HaemishM on June 13, 2007, 09:49:15 AM It's being made by SOE?
But... PUPPIES!!!! Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Yegolev on June 13, 2007, 10:34:47 AM So they are making a game that will appeal to gradeschoolers... that the players can script their own content into... anyone else see a problem with that? Considering what else is available, no. For that matter, if electronics collapse they can just pass dirty notes around class again. I didn't need SOE to show me pictures of dicks and pussies scrawled on the bathroom wall in middle school. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Righ on June 13, 2007, 01:16:49 PM I didn't need SOE to show me pictures of dicks and pussies scrawled on the bathroom wall in middle school. On the other hand, the school janitor wasn't such an attractive target for mommy and daddy's predatory lawyers. Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: Yegolev on June 13, 2007, 01:25:01 PM Touché.
Title: Re: SOE's *other* new MMOG - FreeRealms - is either genius or insanity Post by: tmp on June 20, 2007, 04:52:58 PM This sounds vaguely like Second Life. Well, in Second Life the puppies would have scripted penises and stuff, but you get the idea.
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