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Title: Mad moneyz
Post by: Jobu on May 22, 2007, 05:45:25 PM
http://www.vivendi.com/ir/en/news/Vivendi_Q1.en.php
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Vivendi Games

Revenues

Vivendi Games’ revenues of €291 million were 117.2% higher than the same period last year (up 132% on a constant currency basis).

This strong increase is primarily driven by the very successful January 2007 release of World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade, Blizzard Entertainment’s first expansion pack for its subscription-based, massively multiplayer online role-playing game World of Warcraft. In its first month of sales, The Burning Crusade set a new one-month record for PC game sales by selling approximately 3.5 million copies in North America, Europe, Australia and New Zealand. Blizzard launched The Burning Crusade in Korea in February and in the regions of Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau in April. Blizzard is currently working to release the expansion as soon as possible in mainland China.

$392 million in revenue. In one quarter. I wonder how much Blizzard might be chomping to get into a self-publishing deal, and toss Vivendi aside. Or maybe they like their French overlords.


Title: Re: Mad moneyz
Post by: bhodi on May 22, 2007, 06:17:41 PM
SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS


Title: Re: Mad moneyz
Post by: Viin on May 22, 2007, 06:21:04 PM
Just to be clear, revenue != profit.

But, 400mil in revenue is pretty good. I wonder how much of that is from WoW and not their other divisions.


Title: Re: Mad moneyz
Post by: Trippy on May 22, 2007, 06:26:53 PM
Just to be clear, revenue != profit.

But, 400mil in revenue is pretty good. I wonder how much of that is from WoW and not their other divisions.
( 4.0 million subscribers * US$14.95 * 3 months ) + ( 3.5 million copies of BC * US$20 per copy) = US$249 million

gives you a rough upper bound. The revenues they get from China is pretty small, relative, and are being ignored.

Edit: typos


Title: Re: Mad moneyz
Post by: Viin on May 22, 2007, 07:27:14 PM
Is the 4 Million subs US, US/CA, or US/CA/EU?

I had thought the 4 million included China, but I haven't been following WoW lately. 200mil a quarter is damn good - there are well known companies that sustain on much less than that.

Maybe Blizzard's "next gen" MMO will be self-published .. I can't imagine Vivendi brings much to the table once the retail boxes have shipped.


Title: Re: Mad moneyz
Post by: Azazel on May 23, 2007, 01:50:09 AM
$392 million in revenue. In one quarter. I wonder how much Blizzard might be chomping to get into a self-publishing deal, and toss Vivendi aside. Or maybe they like their French overlords.

Aren't they fully-owned by Vivendi?



Title: Re: Mad moneyz
Post by: Trippy on May 23, 2007, 03:01:40 AM
Is the 4 Million subs US, US/CA, or US/CA/EU?

I had thought the 4 million included China, but I haven't been following WoW lately. 200mil a quarter is damn good - there are well known companies that sustain on much less than that.

Maybe Blizzard's "next gen" MMO will be self-published .. I can't imagine Vivendi brings much to the table once the retail boxes have shipped.
WoW was at 8.5 million worldwide in March. At their current growth rate they are expected to break 9 million in June. When they were at 8 million, 3.5 million was from mainland China. 3.5 million was from NA (plus Aus/NZ) + Europe, ~0.5 million (by my estimate) was from S. Korea and the remaining ~0.5 million was from Taiwan, Singapore, and other territories not mentioned earlier.

My 4 million subscriber number comes from adding NA + Europe + S. Korea, all of which are based on a monthly subscription model of around $14.95 a month (Korea is actually higher). I don't know what its costs to play in Taiwan and Singapore so I left them out, along with mainland China which I mentioned.



Title: Re: Mad moneyz
Post by: Trippy on May 23, 2007, 03:02:29 AM
$392 million in revenue. In one quarter. I wonder how much Blizzard might be chomping to get into a self-publishing deal, and toss Vivendi aside. Or maybe they like their French overlords.
Aren't they fully-owned by Vivendi?
Yes.