Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Morfiend on August 25, 2004, 04:08:52 PM Quote August 24, 2004 - In development for nearly five years, Fable is finally finished. Today on its website, developer Lionhead let it be known that Fable has gone gold. This means that the long-awaited RPG is done. Gimme gimme gimme now now now!!!! Title: Re: Fable Gone Gold Post by: schild on August 25, 2004, 04:09:45 PM Quote from: Morphiend Quote August 24, 2004 - In development for nearly five years, Fable is finally finished. Today on its website, developer Lionhead let it be known that Fable has gone gold. This means that the long-awaited RPG is done. Gimme gimme gimme now now now!!!! Oh noes. Social life just hit rockbottom in terms of priorities. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: WayAbvPar on August 25, 2004, 05:11:39 PM Giddyup! Of course, it will probably hit the shelf the same week I am going to Tahoe. Bollocks.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Liquidator on August 25, 2004, 06:55:18 PM I wish I had an X-Box and time.
-L Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: MrHat on August 25, 2004, 07:15:41 PM Quote from: WayAbvPar Giddyup! Of course, it will probably hit the shelf the same week I am going to Tahoe. Bollocks. Heh, I think I'm getting fired next week, so I might have lots of time. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Signe on August 25, 2004, 08:50:57 PM I have time, and XBox and I pre-ordered. Of course it's been so long since I've played anything at all, I may no longer be interested in games.
Gratz to WayAbvPar on the new word. It's spiffy. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: daveNYC on August 26, 2004, 07:22:36 PM Pre-ordered. Comes with a DVD for some reason. Stupid non pr0n DVDs.
Title: Choke on it, Arcadian. Post by: Shockeye on August 27, 2004, 01:44:41 PM So Team Xbox (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox/775/Fable/p1) and IGN (http://xbox.ign.com/articles/542/542632p1.html) have their Fable reviews up. TX gives it a 9.1 and IGN gives it a 9.3.
For those of you who don't want to bother with reading all those words, here's the closing comments of TX and IGN. Quote from: Team Xbox So was Fable worth the four year wait? Most definitely. Will the game come under heavy criticism for its short length and lackluster storyline? Absolutely. Regardless of its shortcomings, Fable is a breakthrough in many ways. The method in which you react with the game world and the fact that you can play at your own pace makes the entire Fable experience a truly unique one. There are many nuances and secrets that will only be found by playing through the game a second time, or a prolonged first go. The combat system and control scheme are both very clean and easy to use allowing you to simply enjoy the game; something many games cannot claim. Fable certainly falls a tad short on many of its original claims promising an epic adventure. When I think of epic, a strong story is first and foremost in my mind. Fable’s core story is very ordinary and even uninteresting and cliché at times. Most players will be able to guess the outcome of the game far before they reach it. My two biggest complaints are 1.) there are not enough quests in total and 2.) the choices you make do not affect the overall outcome of the story that much. Even though I truly enjoyed playing through Fable twice, I still can help but feel a little bit let down by the scope. This was an adventure that I didn’t want to end, yet it did far too soon. Fable isn’t very difficult which also hurts its longevity. While you can trade and purchase items there really isn’t much need being that most things you’ll require can be readily found during quests or when battling enemies. Health and Will potions are overly abundant and I only came close to dying once or twice. To further ensure that you won’t bite the big one, there are plenty of Resurrection Phials to be found that will automatically fully restore your health bar if it reaches zero. There is a lot of variation to the game, everything from the way that you complete quests, a multitude of mini-games, a deep expression and economy system, and a good amount of secrets. This game design of Fable will ultimately make it an attractive experience for various types of gamers, but it still has been scaled back tremendously from what we had originally been told. Does this make it a better overall game for the mass market? Possibly. Perhaps with so many years of Fable updates and information, we were expecting something that no game could possibly be; perfect. With that being said, Fable is still one of the must-have games of 2004. My advice…try to rid your mind of any previous expectations and simply take in the entire experience. You’ll be a better gamer for it. Quote from: IGN The ultimate question must be asked since Peter Molyneux proposed the idea several times during Fable's development: Is this the greatest RPG of all time? No. No, it's not even the best RPG on Xbox (KOTOR's engaging story retains that crown). Okay, so it's not the greatest RPG ever, but I have to say it's one of my personal favorites. I really dig playing Fable, even multiple times. I know that some folks will be disappointed, that some will complain about what isn't there, but I still had a lot of fun and marvel at how involved I have become in my hero's life. Fable opens a door for you, lets you see this wondrous treasure that the idea of an open world, competing heroes, and NPC interactions can offer -- but it doesn't let you through. There's a lot of great notions in the game that aren't fully realized. As I played, I kept thinking, "Why didn't they do this or that," but in the end I still had a blast playing Fable and to me that makes all the difference. Fable's freedom is allowing you to play how you want, to make your own choices as to how you will reach the climactic battle at the end of your adventure. You will be a hero, but you can be noble like Galahad, a rogue like Robin Hood, or a tyrant like Genghis Kahn. There's not a lot to the main story, but the path to reach its conclusion is full of extras, including secrets, a bevy of collected stats (including how many times you've gotten wasted), and a giant sandbox world to mess around in. It's very difficult to enter this world without thinking about the promises made (but not kept), all of the things that once had everyone so desperately hyped for Fable, but if you can go in with an open mind, I think you'll find a game that will become one of your treasured Xbox favorites. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Lakov_Sanite on August 27, 2004, 01:53:44 PM I read the first review, sounds like he said "great game, story sucks, way too short but hey its still great 9.1!!!!1!!"
i was left feeling a bit blech after hearing that, like the review was screaming it was a rental while still whoring to whatever game company is paying them to give a 9.1 Title: Choke on it, Arcadian. Post by: Shockeye on August 27, 2004, 01:58:00 PM I got the impression that the IGN review was more in-depth and that person spent more time actually playing the game than the Team Xbox reviewer. I can't remember the last time I had something good to say about IGN; I should probably mark this in a calendar somewhere.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Alluvian on August 28, 2004, 10:53:21 AM Other than the numeric scores, I find a lot of apologizing for the game and a pretty lackluster review.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Shockeye on August 28, 2004, 12:56:26 PM Quote from: Alluvian Other than the numeric scores, I find a lot of apologizing for the game and a pretty lackluster review. I got the feeling that the game could've been so much more and the reviewers were hoping it would be more, but in the end they had to service the almighty dollar and give it a high score. Will I buy it? Probably not. Will I rent it? You bet. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: daveNYC on August 29, 2004, 11:43:45 AM Worse case, I'll consider it my donation to the cause of improving in game AI.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Margalis on August 29, 2004, 01:42:22 PM It sounds like a game that would have gotten a 7 if it came out of nowhere.
The Molyneux games never live up to the hype, isn't that obvious? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: geldonyetich on August 29, 2004, 04:28:06 PM Sounds like a rental to me, but it's something i'll definately want to see out of game design interest alone.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Sky on August 30, 2004, 10:47:10 AM It seems to me that a lot of the dropped features were due to what is becoming my biggest gripe with the gaming industry, goddamned console development.
It's like an equestrian trying to ride a poodle. I bet this game would have been a lot better on the pc. I just hope it's as fun as the first level of B&W, I'll be happy if it's a decent little sandbox to fart around in for a couple days, I guess. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: HaemishM on August 30, 2004, 11:47:57 AM Complexity doesn't automatically equal better game. Molyneux developed his concept game on the PC, Black and White, and it was not better for having the PC's extra interface complexity.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Sky on August 30, 2004, 12:22:33 PM It wouldn't fix the story, but I was referring more to the repetetive npc lines and cloned models/textures, things that I'm sure will get annoying pretty quick, hurting the value I did expect to get out of it as mentioned above.
The models and npc textures in B&W were pretty bad, even for the time it was released, so you're probably right. I miss games like Syndicate and Dungeon Keeper. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: UnSub on September 01, 2004, 04:17:02 AM Quote from: Liquidator I wish I had an X-Box and time. -L I have an Xbox and no time. You win. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: kaid on September 01, 2004, 07:47:34 AM It will likely be a rental for me. I cannot justify 30 or 40 bucks on a game that even gets the happy reviewer people to comment on its short lenght. If you can play it and beat it in a weekend it is not going to earn much cash from me aside from a one time rental.
kaid Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Alluvian on September 01, 2004, 08:10:27 AM I will praise Beyond Good and Evil because it was $20. I would have been bitchy if I paid full price for it.
On the flip side, if Fable has a lot of replayability then it in effect becomes a lot longer. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Arcadian Del Sol on September 01, 2004, 09:17:25 AM much like KotOR, Fable's replayability will come in the form of "i'll try it with this kind of character next..."
I imagine I'll play through it at least 5 times, maybe more - on the assumption that after the second, I see a certain amount of distinction -- UNLIKE KotOR. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Alluvian on September 01, 2004, 01:34:37 PM Well, one of the shortfallings listed was that the plot didn't change much dependent on how you played. Still the same game.
And replay for me will depend on what the 'evil' path is like. In Kotor evil was homocidally mentally retarded. I could not play the 'evil' path because it was so fucking stupid and badly done. Why didn't I just wear shoes made from puppy heads? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Lum on September 01, 2004, 01:50:11 PM I'm looking forward to Grand Theft Auto: Puppy Head Shoes.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Pig Destroyer on September 01, 2004, 06:00:24 PM Quote from: Lum I'm looking forward to Grand Theft Auto: Puppy Head Shoes. Who isn't?! Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: hirebrand on September 01, 2004, 10:49:14 PM If it is such a great system, hopefully they will eventually release expansion(s) for it to make it longer.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Reg on September 02, 2004, 05:33:28 AM I feel much less bitter that this was released strictly as an Xbox game now. Looks like I'm not really missing all that much.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Alluvian on September 02, 2004, 06:40:09 AM Quote from: hirebrand If it is such a great system, hopefully they will eventually release expansion(s) for it to make it longer. It would be awesome to get some of that "premium content" for Fable, but is it even Xbox live enabled? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Trippy on September 03, 2004, 09:37:04 PM Quote from: Alluvian Quote from: hirebrand If it is such a great system, hopefully they will eventually release expansion(s) for it to make it longer. It would be awesome to get some of that "premium content" for Fable, but is it even Xbox live enabled? It's listed on the Xbox Live game list (http://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/live-gameslist.htm) as Live Aware (http://www.xbox.com/en-us/live/about/features-liveaware.htm) only, so no content downloading. GameSpot has their Fable review (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/rpg/fable/review.html) up now as well. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: AOFanboi on September 12, 2004, 12:12:36 PM Review on Gamespy (http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox/fable/546898p1.html?fromint=1). Seems to be yet another good-looking and short XBox action RPG, with some strange choices in the design.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: CassandraR on September 12, 2004, 03:07:16 PM Why can't we have more good 40-65 hour rpgs? 12 hours is over before you know it pretty much. I like my rpgs 1000 page novel sized.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Pig Destroyer on September 12, 2004, 05:56:49 PM Quote from: CassandraR Why can't we have more good 40-65 hour rpgs? 12 hours is over before you know it pretty much. I like my rpgs 1000 page novel sized. Perhaps Star Ocean 3 is more your speed? I am still buying Fable. I've waited too damn long for it, and I'm not about to let bad reviews get in my way... I'm such a consumer whore. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Dren on September 13, 2004, 08:10:34 AM Quote from: CassandraR Why can't we have more good 40-65 hour rpgs? 12 hours is over before you know it pretty much. I like my rpgs 1000 page novel sized. Tales of Symphonia seems to fit that category by their words anyway. I'm on hour 11 or so and am still on the first disk and only at the first plot twist. From what I've seen of the game, I have a long way to go. Plus, the replayability will be very good since you can play any of the characters as your main during combat. (Plotline stays the same of course.) I might spend some hours just using each one in different combats since the system is really pretty fun. Of course, you'd have to get a GC, which would bring your volume of new titles to a steady crawl for the future. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: geldonyetich on September 13, 2004, 11:22:40 AM Funny thing is, when it comes to the game being described as too short, the same thing was said about Black and White. Is Fable really 12 hours long, or is the game itself interesting enough that you can enjoy the sandbox-like aspects for a far longer period of time?
Although, it'd be tough for a RPGish game to have as much sandbox factor as a God Sim. But then, this is Peter Molyneux we're talking about... he would probably design a Tic Tac Toe game with massive sandbox factor. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Arcadian Del Sol on September 14, 2004, 09:10:51 AM If you did zero side quests and zero exploring and ran from Main Plot Progress Point to Main Plot Progress Point, you can marathon your way through Fable in 12 hours.
Thats what they're saying, anyway. Personally - I plan to spent a WHOLE LOTTA HOURS working on my haircut. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Morfiend on September 14, 2004, 10:25:13 AM I plan on playing through it twice, if it is as fun as it sounds.
Once as a evil bastard, i will try for as many different girls as possible. The second time I think I will try a goody good gay mage. *EDIT* Anyone picked this up yet today? Will ebgames have it today? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Shaftoe on September 14, 2004, 05:01:56 PM Well I cruised over to Best Buy after work tonight to pick up Fable, but was told it won't be available until Thursday. Anyone else have a similar problem? I'm in the midwest.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Merusk on September 14, 2004, 05:08:48 PM I know the Best Buy near me doesn't get shipments for the week until Thursday nights, so the soonest they ever have anything is Friday. Might be you're having a similar problem with yours.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Pig Destroyer on September 14, 2004, 05:10:58 PM Picked mine up today from EB with no problems. Only got to play about an hour, so no real review from me yet. Goddamn work.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Shockeye on September 14, 2004, 05:11:23 PM Outpost.com is showing Fable for $34.99 and Fry's Electronics (they own Outpost) will have Fable tomorrow for $36.99 in store.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Ardent on September 15, 2004, 08:22:29 AM I'm hoping that the sound of crickets in this thread is an indication that the people playing Fable are so absorbed that they don't have any time to post opinions.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Sky on September 15, 2004, 09:46:59 AM Quote from: Ardent I'm hoping that the sound of crickets in this thread is an indication that the people playing Fable are so absorbed that they don't have any time to post opinions. Waiting for ebgames.com to stop saying "Hold" and start saying "Shipped". Why the hell do I order through them, I know better. I'm actually quite absorbed in Gothic II right now. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: schild on September 15, 2004, 10:11:55 AM I was barely able to stop playing to post this message. It's like single player GuildWars with twitch. Just a heaping pile of love. After I go through it (which should be in a day or so.....Rosh Hoshana is tomorrow, sigh) I'll write something up..
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Rasix on September 15, 2004, 10:14:28 AM Hmm. Looks like I'll have to chance that nobody bought me this for my birthday and run out and get it.
I feel an illness coming on. I may have to leave work... the pain... Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: schild on September 15, 2004, 10:15:09 AM Quote from: Rasix I feel an illness coming on. I may have to leave work... the pain... That's just the rat poison you drank for breakfast. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Rasix on September 15, 2004, 10:16:02 AM Quote from: schild Quote from: Rasix I feel an illness coming on. I may have to leave work... the pain... That's just the rat poison you drank for breakfast. I saw the skull and crossbones and just thought it was a pirate drink. NOT MY FAULT MAN. I did, however, have a crappy breakfast. Nothing like eating a bag of Skittles that's been sitting on the floor of your Honda for 3 days. So, does this game invoke tingly sensations like KOTOR? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: MrHat on September 15, 2004, 10:34:22 AM lol I took the afternoon off yesterday, then went to EBgames and they didn't have it in yet.
So went late last night, picked it up, came home, slept, called work, and now I"m playing it. Silly girlfriend isnt' letting me do anything bad though... Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: schild on September 15, 2004, 10:42:39 AM Quote from: Rasix So, does this game invoke tingly sensations like KOTOR? Hmm. KoToR didn't give me any tingling sensation. In fact no RPG has since Planescape: Torment. Though, I'll tell ya, Fable is pretty fucking good. The writing is good. The graphics are Fantasmicastic. I mean so good that I had to invent a word. They have a really nice charm to them. Just fucking buy it. It's that simple. This is a Must Own Game. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: CmdrSlack on September 15, 2004, 10:51:02 AM I am on "shipment watch" for my local GameStop. They said it would be in and ready to purchase "sometime after noon."
It's now noon fifty, and I am debating whether to just ride my bike down there since I have another errand to run in the same area OR keep calling till I know for sure it's in. Since there's two gamestops within 5 blocks of my house, it's not too bad, I guess. If I piss off the one, I just go to the other. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Morfiend on September 15, 2004, 10:54:17 AM Quote from: schild Just fucking buy it. It's that simple. This is a Must Own Game. I wouldnt say its that good. I have about 3 hours played, and so far my feeling is, "Its pretty cool". The graphics ARE good, but I have also experianced quite a few slowdowns. I get slowdowns almost every time I open a chest, also some other times. The NPC interaction is ok so far, but not quite as good as I thought it would be. That GOD DAMN TARGETTING SYSTEM. Thi is one of my main gripes with this game. It fucking keeps targetting friendly npcs in the middle of battle. I have done several escort quest, and I cant count the times I have clicked the target button and then my Lightning attack only to have my toon pull a 180 and blast the npc I am trying to escort. Also, that bastard guildmaster keeps telling me to build up my combat multiplier. IM TRYING YOU FUCK. They keep hitting me!! My overall impression is: Its a fun RPG but it doesnt live up to the hype. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: schild on September 15, 2004, 10:59:41 AM Quote from: Morphiend Quote from: schild Just fucking buy it. It's that simple. This is a Must Own Game. I wouldnt say its that good. I have about 3 hours played, and so far my feeling is, "Its pretty cool". Yet, you've gone all Blizzard fanboi on us. So I have reason to believe that your playstyle differs greatly. I've gotten the combat multiplier up to 7. I think that guildmaster wants us to hit 10. Use the right analog stick to cycle through l-targeted people. Also, you only have to hit L-target once, if you hold it down it will go to the next closest thing after you kill an enemy - probably why you were targeting the escortees. Anyway, Morphiends just upset because he can't handle the twitch. Ignore him. Go to EB, Peter Molyneux needs new performance upgrades for his Bugatti. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Sky on September 15, 2004, 11:38:48 AM Hey, my ship status is changed from Hold to Open. Is that good? God I hate ebgames.com.
Quote I saw the skull and crossbones and just thought it was a pirate drink. NOT MY FAULT MAN. But why's the rum gone? ...I can't take time off work for games, my boss is also a gamer and knows when they come out...then again...he wasn't here all morning! The bastard! Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: CmdrSlack on September 15, 2004, 12:08:52 PM Quote from: Sky Hey, my ship status is changed from Hold to Open. Is that good? God I hate ebgames.com. Quote I saw the skull and crossbones and just thought it was a pirate drink. NOT MY FAULT MAN. But why's the rum gone? ...I can't take time off work for games, my boss is also a gamer and knows when they come out...then again...he wasn't here all morning! The bastard! It's good to be the King. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Morfiend on September 15, 2004, 12:20:14 PM Quote from: schild I've gotten the combat multiplier up to 7. I think that guildmaster wants us to hit 10. Use the right analog stick to cycle through l-targeted people. Also, you only have to hit L-target once, if you hold it down it will go to the next closest thing after you kill an enemy - probably why you were targeting the escortees. Anyway, Morphiends just upset because he can't handle the twitch. Ignore him. Go to EB, Peter Molyneux needs new performance upgrades for his Bugatti. Yeah, I know WHY im targetting my escort, I just dont like the fact that I AM. I didnt know about the R-stick to change targets, that should help a lot. Is any one else noticing the slowdowns Im talking about? Is my Xbox on the way out? anyway, like I said, its good. Just not the holy grail some people have been claiming. I have been thinking. My natural playstyle usually leades me to evil, not not totally evil, more like Neutral-Evil. I wonder if you get anything for staying neutral, or am I going to have to play one extreme or the other to get all the good stuff? Psychopath or Saint. P.S. Anyone get any man love yet? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: schild on September 15, 2004, 12:23:27 PM I get no slowdown.
I'm playing the first time through straight (as in the first option they give for everything) but I'm also stealing from houses. I've killed one merchant to see if he'd drop all his wares. But, he was a traveling merchant and no one gives a shit about gypsies. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: MrHat on September 15, 2004, 12:54:38 PM What I can't shake is this feeling that Fable could have been 2x what it is now if it were designed for a PC.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: NewGuy on September 15, 2004, 02:31:34 PM Quote from: MrHat What I can't shake is this feeling that Fable could have been 2x what it is now if it were designed for a PC. Because it is true? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: schild on September 15, 2004, 06:56:56 PM I wouldn't want to play Fable on the PC. Too much twitch. It's almost Soul Caliber like in terms of combat. It belongs on a console.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: MrHat on September 15, 2004, 07:25:07 PM Quote from: schild I wouldn't want to play Fable on the PC. Too much twitch. It's almost Soul Caliber like in terms of combat. Can't believe you even compared them. My current melee attack combo consists of X-X-X-X-X-X Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Merusk on September 15, 2004, 08:06:55 PM Quote from: MrHat Quote from: schild I wouldn't want to play Fable on the PC. Too much twitch. It's almost Soul Caliber like in terms of combat. Can't believe you even compared them. My current melee attack combo consists of X-X-X-X-X-X With handicapping on my daughter owns me in SC2 with that exact combo. Hell, she does it with a similar combo in Super Smash Brothers Melee without handicapping. Damn you, Pikachu! Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: murdoc on September 15, 2004, 10:14:18 PM So, I wracked up 5500 gold in fines in the first town I went to, and need to meet someone in said town.
Guess I'm going exploring to find the other 5000 gold I need just to go back to town. No slowdowns that I've noticed, but I haven't played very much yet. Only had a couple targetting mishaps, the first being me nuking the tester at the Heroes Guild as I was getting tested on my Will skills. He still gave me a A+ though, which I thought was decent for a guy I toasted a little. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Koyasha on September 16, 2004, 01:39:39 AM I still can't decide whether to buy this one or not. It irritates me that I understand there's no option to play a female character - and I even hear there's very little reason for it, as it would supposedly take little more than changing the dialogue.
I wonder why it is that some of the better RPG's have this huge glaring annoyance, at least for anyone who prefers female characters. Planescape: Torment pissed me off because of that too. Loved the game, but having to play as a guy annoyed me. Oh, well. I'll probably rent at least, and maybe buy it. Just felt like I needed to gripe about that, since it's annoying, for an RPG. Even lots of action-adventure games are giving a choice these days, for an RPG to not give one...kinda stupid for a game that by all reports I've heard is very, very open in all other aspects, letting you do whatever you want to with your character. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: schild on September 16, 2004, 05:21:11 AM Changing this game to be the story of a girl would be a monumental affair involving the changing of EVERYTHING including combat due to the skeletal movements of the male. It would be a different game and frankly, Lionhead was right in their decision. Women didn't "court" males back in the days of Fable. Men courted females, that's supposedly a big thing in the game (haven't gotten far enough to tell, even though I can sneer, flex, and flirt). Anyway, I don't think that asking for females is a gripe in this particular instance, it truly would be a different game altogether.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Arcadian Del Sol on September 16, 2004, 06:10:58 AM Short and sweet: Fable is worth the retail price. Its not a Morrowind 2 because the game is clearly busted up into 'stages' or 'chapters' and for some of these stages, the moment you enter them, the Deus EXBox dude takes you by the scruffy parts and drags you to the quest that will end that chapter and says, "have at it, chump."
at which point you can spend the next month of your life specfically NOT having at it, and enjoying the game. The quests are semi-dynamic. They are repetative, but you can self-dynamicize them by wagering part of your payment with great boasts. example: If an escort mission pays 500 gold, you can wager 200 for a payout of 600 to do the mission in your underpants. No, I'm not making that up. You can do the mission in your underpants for bonus gold and bonus reputation points. For those who are waiting to hear it: yes - this game has a Black & White style tutorial that consists of the entire first three 'chapters' of the game, and anytime you want to replay, you get to take this manatory tutorial all over again. There, happy now? The art and story-telling is "Shrek Style" - meaning, its clearly done in a 'nursery rhyme, fairy tale' kind of way, but some of the aspects and features tilt up and aim at a higher demographic. For example, the game is full of morality tales to children about how to be good human beings, and then it immediately makes a left turn and you're kicking some dead guy's head around like a soccer ball. And the stats include things like how much sex you've had, and breaks it down on a gender-to-gender basis. My character is in his early 20's I estimate now and I'm aiming for a heroic warrior with a dash or two of rogue thief. Basically, I do good deeds in order to spend those karma points on stealing things from villager's homes. I mean, who wants horns right? As a result, my character is becoming strong as an ox, but maintaining his lean, archer-like figure (due to having very fast reflexes and very high guile). I'm also becoming pale because I find night time to be the best time to steal things and to see bonus items on the ground from long distances (some items glow, you see). Result: I'm not getting sunlight exposure, so I'm turning into an albino fighter-thief. and I have a gryphon tattoed on my chest that makes the ladies purr when I'm shirtless in the tavern.[/b] Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Arcadian Del Sol on September 16, 2004, 06:12:15 AM Quote from: MrHat Quote from: schild I wouldn't want to play Fable on the PC. Too much twitch. It's almost Soul Caliber like in terms of combat. Can't believe you even compared them. My current melee attack combo consists of X-X-X-X-X-X maybe you should parry a little. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Sky on September 16, 2004, 07:47:32 AM Goddamned EB. I'll get Fable on monday.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: MrHat on September 16, 2004, 08:48:35 AM Quote from: Arcadian Del Sol Quote from: MrHat Quote from: schild I wouldn't want to play Fable on the PC. Too much twitch. It's almost Soul Caliber like in terms of combat. Can't believe you even compared them. My current melee attack combo consists of X-X-X-X-X-X maybe you should parry a little. There's no need. Don't get me wrong, I'm loving this game, really like the magic sounds and the way I go 'hey, that's cool'. I just don't think it's fair to compair the combat to Soul Caliber - the greatest fighter game ever created. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Tairnyn on September 16, 2004, 09:11:40 AM Quote from: schild Just fucking buy it. It's that simple. This is a Must Own Game. Would you consider the game (and the rest of them, I suppose) worth investing in an XBox? I'm tempted, but I fear Rome Total War will come out and then I'll never touch the console again. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Shannow on September 16, 2004, 09:55:57 AM Quote from: Tairnyn Quote from: schild Just fucking buy it. It's that simple. This is a Must Own Game. Would you consider the game (and the rest of them, I suppose) worth investing in an XBox? I'm tempted, but I fear Rome Total War will come out and then I'll never touch the console again. One week from today.... veni vidi vici! Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Morfiend on September 16, 2004, 10:20:25 AM Quote from: Tairnyn Quote from: schild Just fucking buy it. It's that simple. This is a Must Own Game. Would you consider the game (and the rest of them, I suppose) worth investing in an XBox? I'm tempted, but I fear Rome Total War will come out and then I'll never touch the console again. I would consider buying an Xbox for KOTOR and Beyond Good and Evil probably before buying one for Fable. But if you do buy one, you can get all of them. yay. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Alluvian on September 16, 2004, 10:30:07 AM Between fable, kotor2, and Jade empire I think the xbox purchase is worth it.
I thought I heard that kotor2 and jade empire were not going to make pc. but I could be wrong. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Ardent on September 16, 2004, 11:09:50 AM Quote from: Morphiend I would consider buying an Xbox for KOTOR and Beyond Good and Evil probably before buying one for Fable. But if you do buy one, you can get all of them. yay. I think there is also an obscure game called Halo 2 that might be kinda fun. But this is a Fable thread so ... I bought the game yesterday. Within 5 mintues, I was beating up a little boy and stealing his teddy bear. Good times. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Morfiend on September 16, 2004, 11:39:08 AM Quote from: Ardent Quote from: Morphiend I would consider buying an Xbox for KOTOR and Beyond Good and Evil probably before buying one for Fable. But if you do buy one, you can get all of them. yay. I think there is also an obscure game called Halo 2 that might be kinda fun. But this is a Fable thread so ... I bought the game yesterday. Within 5 mintues, I was beating up a little boy and stealing his teddy bear. Good times. I cant stand playing FPS games with a controller. Ill buy Halo2 if it comes out for PC. For Xbox? No thanks. As for Fable, can any one tell me where I change my title? I am getting real sick of being called Chicken Chaser. Also, where do I find a Tattoo artist or a hairdresser? I have some card but cant find any. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Signe on September 16, 2004, 11:45:30 AM Morphiend! I can't believe you're asking for hints! I am so disappointed in you....
Anyway, I didn't answer the knock on the door when delivery was attempted yesterday... I was in a mood... but I'll have it today. Please don't give Morph any clues. Maybe after he's been searching for a week or so, but it's still WAY too early for that sort of thing. Edited by Admin: Don't break NDAs. We aren't in that business. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Der Helm on September 16, 2004, 01:39:13 PM Quote from: Morphiend As for Fable, can any one tell me where I change my title? I am getting real sick of being called Chicken Chaser. Also, where do I find a Tattoo artist or a hairdresser? I have some card but cant find any. Talk to the gypsy. south of the starting village, she will give you directions to the tatoo artist after you did a little erand for her. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Signe on September 16, 2004, 02:09:03 PM Nein! Verderben Sie es nicht! He has to learn for himself, our wee Morphiend!
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Der Helm on September 16, 2004, 02:32:49 PM Quote from: Signe Nein! Verderben Sie es nicht! He has to learn for himself, our wee Morphiend! Sorry, could not held back that information. Ich will nur helfen !!! Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Merusk on September 16, 2004, 03:19:47 PM Quote from: Alluvian I thought I heard that kotor2 and jade empire were not going to make pc. but I could be wrong. Kotor2 is going pc, 2 months after the x-box release according to the Lucasarts website. Jade Empire's site says nothing about PC, though. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: SirBruce on September 16, 2004, 04:29:43 PM They made it clear at E3 (or maybe it was GDC) that Jade Empire would be X-Box only. Of course, it's always possible that could change if someone paid them enough money, I suppose.
Bruce Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: MrHat on September 16, 2004, 05:10:32 PM So I"m playing Fable and having a blast.
A question: I've bought 2 houses so far, and both times I chose to rent them out. How do I collect said rent? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: schild on September 16, 2004, 05:17:24 PM Quote from: MrHat So I"m playing Fable and having a blast. A question: I've bought 2 houses so far, and both times I chose to rent them out. How do I collect said rent? Kill the rentee and take their money. Then rent it out again. What? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: MrHat on September 16, 2004, 05:19:31 PM Quote from: schild Quote from: MrHat So I"m playing Fable and having a blast. A question: I've bought 2 houses so far, and both times I chose to rent them out. How do I collect said rent? Kill the rentee and take their money. Then rent it out again. What? It won't let me in the door. When it rents out the door closes.. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: schild on September 16, 2004, 05:21:35 PM Quote from: MrHat It won't let me in the door. When it rents out the door closes.. I was kidding. Maybe you automatically get zee moneyz. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: MrHat on September 16, 2004, 06:40:36 PM Quote from: schild Quote from: MrHat It won't let me in the door. When it rents out the door closes.. I was kidding. Maybe you automatically get zee moneyz. Have you bought a house yet? And so far I've had 5 ladies fall in love w/ me, but they won't sex me up. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: SirBruce on September 16, 2004, 07:03:43 PM I don't think you get sex until you marry them. At least, that's what Molyneaux implied.
Bruce Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Ardent on September 16, 2004, 09:27:17 PM Oooookay ... when you save your hero, it saves your XP, renown, inventory, and your stats ... but NOT your quest progress.
That's just boneheaded. I've had to do my childhood 3 times now, and if I have to do it one more time this motherfucker is getting sold on eBay. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: schild on September 17, 2004, 12:04:31 AM Finish the fucking childhood and pick "Save World.' RTFM.
Anyway, I finished the arena. Blah blah blah, i'm evil as fuck. Soooooooo, I went back to my wife all famous, she told my my mustache looked wonderful on me and then she got down on her knees. Sorta. Number of times you've had sex: 1. Soon 'Number of Times You've Been Widowed" will say 1 also. I really hate this bitches voice. And our house costs too much for my expensive will potion habit. It's tough being a drug addict sex fiend in a game that reflects those habits. Of course, the dialog went something like this. "Isn't that pretty" " I really do love you" "We should, you know, get more intimate......IN BED." "Comeon, take me now." *Screen goes black. There is moaning." "I really do love you." Then I walk out. It's amazing how realistic this game is............Does anyone else get the feeling Molyneux is in a loveless marriage? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Arcadian Del Sol on September 17, 2004, 04:39:41 AM rent
stand in front of the "do you want to sell this house?" sign and you get the money. titles vendor just outside the heroes guild doors, on the left (dont take the teleporter) x-x-x-x-x parry more. period. oh and the (a) button is your 'style' when youre combat modifier is high enough. use this pattern (without taking any hits inbetween): x-x-a-y-y-a (hit, hit, style, parry, parry, style) joy of being a "good thief throwing this out for those who care: I'm a good thief character and its fun. If you kill enough bad guys you can just be a town thief all day and still have a positive disposition. Last night I stole assassin gloves right in front of the face of the vendor in the hero guild. complaint: quests run dry so much for "open ended" - this game doesnt even have much of an open middle. I did two quests and all that was left was the "main plot quest" for my chapter - and when that was done, I was given the option to move along with the story, or remain behind and enjoy NOT ever doing any more quests. I was pretty sure I was supposed to be able to quest quest quest quest at any stage of the game doing side missions. wonder what happened to that. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Jayce on September 17, 2004, 06:35:09 AM Quote from: Arcadian Del Sol complaint: quests run dry I've been hearing this from a lot of people. It strikes me that a lot of features may have been put in that didn't work out, because if the entire thing was designed up front it would have taken far less than four years. Disclaimer: I haven't actually played it myself. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: HaemishM on September 17, 2004, 09:09:32 AM Bought this last night and made it through the tutorial area.
Holy shit, do I like this game. It's like an MMOG, without the second M or the O, but with tons of G. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: stray on September 17, 2004, 08:17:32 PM So I just passed the Arena..My favorite part of the game so far. Playing the goody-goody right now.
Question though: Anyone finding combat to be a little too easy? It seems like I'm shredding through everything, with hardly any harm done to myself. Can't be right. I specced mainly in Strength, Health, Speed, and use Battle Charge A LOT. Perhaps an overpowered combo? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: schild on September 17, 2004, 08:25:26 PM Quote from: stray I specced mainly in Strength, Health, Speed, and use Battle Charge A LOT. Perhaps an overpowered combo? I've used those. THe most efficient thing I've found though is Slow Time + Assassin Rush + Multi-Hit. That's just a ridiculously overpowered combo. Made the arena a walk in the park. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Jayce on September 17, 2004, 08:38:15 PM Quote from: HaemishM Bought this last night and made it through the tutorial area. Holy shit, do I like this game. It's like an MMOG, without the second M or the O, but with tons of G. A massive game? Is that something like Heavy Music? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: MrHat on September 17, 2004, 09:10:46 PM Quote from: schild Quote from: stray I specced mainly in Strength, Health, Speed, and use Battle Charge A LOT. Perhaps an overpowered combo? I've used those. THe most efficient thing I've found though is Slow Time + Assassin Rush + Multi-Hit. That's just a ridiculously overpowered combo. Made the arena a walk in the park. I went SpellWarrior style. Took all the Str perks. Magic consists of 3 main spells - multihit, ghost swords, and enflame. I use one other spell when it looks like I'm going to need it and that's the summon spell. Because I'm casting alot as well as fighting, I believe my avatar is 'scrawny'. He doesn't have that huge build that I was expecting from swinging around his hammer. For the arena, I used pretty much all my spells constantly, plus my giant hammer flying around. Was good times. Also, as much guile as I can. However, I'm not finding this as useful for buying/selling/trading as I would like, I still very rarely turn a profit buying from somone at a good price and selling to someone else. My rent business is booming though, 4 houses and counting - it's good for 1-2k every 'day'. Anyone else notice their avatar's age? Mine says 37 and I'm 8 hours into the game. Doesn't seem quite right. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: AOFanboi on September 18, 2004, 01:27:41 AM Gabe doesn't like it (http://www.penny-arcade.com/news.php3?date=2004-09-17). Just in case people thought it was universally applauded or something.
Me? I have no XBox, so I get to choose from the million or so PS2 and GC RPGs instead. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Liquidator on September 18, 2004, 01:51:17 AM Quote from: AOFanboi Gabe doesn't like it (http://www.penny-arcade.com/news.php3?date=2004-09-17). Just in case people thought it was universally applauded or something. Me? I have no XBox, so I get to choose from the million or so PS2 and GC RPGs instead. I think you're being a little to forgiving when saying that he didn't like it - saying that he hated it might be better. Wow, he made it sound like ass. I don't have have an X-Box so I guess I'll never know. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Signe on September 18, 2004, 06:09:53 AM I like the game... well, so far I like watching my husband play the game. I find it very entertaining. In fact, I liked it so much I just bought it for my nephew who also has no XBox. $50 for the game and $120 for a reconditioned XBox to play it on... at least it gives me a present source for upcoming birthdays and holidays.
Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Shockeye on September 18, 2004, 10:32:34 AM Quote from: Liquidator I think you're being a little to forgiving when saying that he didn't like it - saying that he hated it might be better. Wow, he made it sound like ass. I don't have have an X-Box so I guess I'll never know. His comments made me think he went into the game thinking it was going to be the second coming only to have a huge letdown and his rant was his needed catharsis. My feelings after investing some time into the game can pretty much be summed up as, "It could have been so much more." I'd rank it maybe a 7.5 to 8, but nowhere near a 9 like the whore sites have been giving the game. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: stray on September 18, 2004, 11:33:12 AM Quote from: Gabe Well you’re playing an extremely linear and limited hack and slash adventure game combined with a shitty version of the Sims mixed with animal crossing only minus all of animal crossings charm and inspiration. If you want to just play through Fable as fast as you can, it’s a boring but passable action RPG. After finishing it, I guess I'll agree with him up to a point. It doesn't live up to the hype, but I didn't think it was boring either. I also think he was expecting something else, and not enjoying it for what it is: Action/Adventure. It just has RPG elements to it. It's the X-Box's Zelda. It does a pretty good job at doing that, but anyone expecting more "RPG" than "Action/Adventure" will probably be disappointed. Quote Because I'm casting alot as well as fighting, I believe my avatar is 'scrawny'. He doesn't have that huge build that I was expecting from swinging around his hammer. Toughness will make you big and muscular. Or you could just stuff yourself with pies and become obese. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Shockeye on September 18, 2004, 12:12:15 PM Quote from: stray Toughness will make you big and muscular. Or you could just stuff yourself with pies and become obese. Quote from: Team Xbox Cheats You can become permanently huge like berserk by doing the following: * Get the spell. * Cast berserk. * Save after you cast. * Reload the game load after you cast the spell, and Volia, you are now the hulking hero you always wanted to be! If you cast berserk again after using this technique, when it wears off you will return to normal size. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: MrHat on September 18, 2004, 02:30:37 PM Quote from: stray Toughness will make you big and muscular. Or you could just stuff yourself with pies and become obese. Ya, I did that to open up a demon gate. How do I get my svelt figure back? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: stray on September 18, 2004, 04:29:21 PM Quote from: MrHat Quote from: stray Toughness will make you big and muscular. Or you could just stuff yourself with pies and become obese. Ya, I did that to open up a demon gate. How do I get my svelt figure back? I went back to slim after the Prison chapter. I guess I wasn't well fed while in there. Also, each time I trained (at least in Strength and Toughness), it reverted back to a slim figure. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: MrHat on September 18, 2004, 06:55:41 PM Quote from: stray Quote from: MrHat Quote from: stray Toughness will make you big and muscular. Or you could just stuff yourself with pies and become obese. Ya, I did that to open up a demon gate. How do I get my svelt figure back? I went back to slim after the Prison chapter. I guess I wasn't well fed while in there. Also, each time I trained (at least in Strength and Toughness), it reverted back to a slim figure. Done and done. One question though: why is my guy so damn old (52) when I haven't finished the game, and only 10 game days have gone by? Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Trippy on September 18, 2004, 09:15:56 PM Quote from: MrHat One question though: why is my guy so damn old (52) when I haven't finished the game, and only 10 game days have gone by? Does your character look old? Spellcasting is supposed to make your character age faster but I assumed that was just in appearance and not in chronological age. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Johny Cee on September 18, 2004, 10:30:37 PM Having the same issue. My guy is 38, and I'm just getting to the Arena. Went out and bought the strategy guide, just to see what new information was there.
It turns out, every train you do increases your age by a certain amount. The claim is that you age .7 years each time you level up a stat or spell. So if you tend to be more of a genaralist, throwing points into a bunch of different skills instead of hoarding to max out certain ones, you'll probably have a much higher age than some. Supposedly, this doesn't affect attractiveness or anything, besides making your avatar look really old. Not sure how to make him look bulkier. My guys been swinging around a giant axe for a couple hours and still looks like he's bulimic. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Ardent on September 18, 2004, 10:43:17 PM Five hours in: Big Fat Meh.
Knights of the Old Republic now costs 1/3 the price, and is at least 3x a better game. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: stray on September 18, 2004, 11:00:23 PM Quote from: Ardent Five hours in: Big Fat Meh. Knights of the Old Republic now costs 1/3 the price, and is at least 3x a better game. Oh, definitely. I'm not sure anything will measure up to KoToR for quite some time. As for other X-Box RPG's...I had a lot more fun with Gladius too. Morrowind, no. Sudeki, no. To be fair though, X-Box was lacking an RPG like Fable, and like I said earlier, I enjoyed it for what it was. X-Men Legends looks promising, but without all the hype. I have a feeling it'll be better than this too. Title: Fable Gone Gold Post by: Righ on September 19, 2004, 08:39:39 AM Quote from: Rasix I saw the skull and crossbones and just thought it was a pirate drink. NOT MY FAULT MAN. Arrrrrr! (http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html) |