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Who touched Sasha? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1h1rHREOjI)

That was entertaining.

Hee hee hee.

Lots of voice acting and mocap for a multiplayer game, though.

The whole TF2 thing is looking very stylish and the flavour they're doing like 'Who touched Sasha' is great, but why should we be excited by a reskin of the exact same game I was playing in 1997?  Or is there some you-beaut changes I'm not aware of?  2forts is fun and all, but its been played to death already.

Hiding your dot so you can sneakily snipe people is always fun.

Semi-random maps and...that's about it AFAIK.

Everytime they release new media for this, I wet my pants a little in glee.

And heresy it may be, some of us (me) never really played TF all that much. And even if I did... who cares. I'm a sucker for style. I've read about some changes made to the original, but I'm not really knowledgeable enough about it to comment on it.

I never played TF.

There I said it.

Also, its bundled with Episode 2 and Portal, WHICH YOU WOULD BUY ANYWAY. So you might as well enjoy the hype.

Complaining about this is like moaning about people looking forward to CS:Source.

I wish more games were remade. They date too easily. It's not like film, where you can re-watch things from the 20's, 30's, 40's or whatever and enjoy them for the 12th time. Hell, most of my favorite movies are from the 40's and 70's.

Many of my favorite games are quite old, but there's no way in hell I'd revist them. Especially 3D ones.

Not to mention UI standards updates and improvements over time. When my new computer was down during my RMA, I tried playing Vice City and kept thinking how much better San Andreas was, simply because of the control scheme. In Vice City, the on-foot action never worked well with my gamepad and I was always using teh keyboard. In San Andreas, I playing 99% of the game on the gamepad. Seeing Vice City done in the SA engine would be cool (or better yet, in the GTA4 engine).

Or a high-res widescreen version of Planescape: Torment.

I was thinking those exact sentiments.  I would be in heaven if they'd remake some of the late 90's games into PSP or handhelds.

That was cool. I only played a little of the Half-Life version of TF and it was fun. A new, style-heavy version in the Source engine? Hell yeah, I'd hit that.

It certainly oozes style. If that'll translate visually when everyone is conc jumping around like rabbits on speed is another matter.

HL2:Ep 2 looks to be a damn good purchase anymore. Too bad it takes Valve practically a year to make new episodes.

We're going to need some matches and steel wool.

Dude, just call the Pyro.

conc = concussion grenades?

Believe it or not, they designed those out. The Demoman is the only one with explosives, though the Soldier can still rocket jump, and the Scout has a crazy moon-boot double jump.

Instead of making everybody a jack-of-all-trades, the design for TF2 focused on enhancing the individual schticks.

--GF

Holy shit, the main audience (TFC fanatics) are going to be pissed.

TF's big strength was always class specialization.  I won't shed too many tears for the loss of generic grenades if it makes the Demoman that much cooler.

I will be sad if they don't have cool stuff like the gas, nail, and EMP grenades, though.  Those were just all kinds of fun.  Nothing like sneaking into a base disguised as a sniper and then fumigating the place with LSD.

I played a lot of TFC back in the day. A LOT.

Honestly, I'm glad to see conc jumping get the boot. I always thought it was a cheap tactic anyway. I don't like rocket jumping either.


I'm actually hoping you'll once again have to "charge" your sniper shots. It really rewarded the patient sniper, instead of someone who would try to spam shots.


I just can't wait to don a sniper suit, backstab some dumb snipers and engineers, and gas the hell out of the spawn areas.  :evil:

Wow, I'm surprised by all these people who didn't play much TF back in the 90s.  Oh well, I'll probably end up getting it if its part of Ep2 and I'm short of stuff to do...

Yo. QWTF all the way. I tried TFC a few times and it always seemed like a pale imitation to me.

If they don't have a faithful 2fort4 adaptation, someone's gonna wake up with a horse head in their bed. Well6 and 2tech3 would be nice too.

Looks spiffy... and it comes with HL2 Ep2, you say?

It appears that I will also be hitting that. - Guess I will need to pick up HL2 Ep1 as well... how's that Valve billing CC number security thing going these days?

It looks fantastic, makes me sad that I'm boycotting Valve for being big enough asshats to patch in-game ads into their older products without an opt-out.  I won't support any company that forces in-game ads on the players (unless the game is free, then it's reasonable), just like I won't support a company that puts Starforce on the games.  The only way to make them stop is to not give them money.

I think I was busy playing CS at the time, either that or UO, both those games blanked out a lot of time back in the 90s and early 2000s.

Those are not excuses.

TF was my first online addicction.  I played more TF and TWCTF than I have almost any other game to date.  To say I'm excited for TF2 would be a massive fucking understatement.  I'm debating taking an entire week off to play shortly after release.

Looks nice, too bad it will be bundled with steam and adds so I won't be touching it.

Ads? Crap. I agree.

There's still people like you left? How...quaint.

Lots, actually.

As far as I know general customers weren't in the pool of people who had their numbers accessed. It was an internal web that was dedicated to Cybercafes.

Episode One was decent. A little too short for my tastes and too heavy on the use of odd gameplay gimmicks (directing Alyx with the flashlight. I would've liked it more had it just been something you used on and off as you progressed (dark/light areas, frequent changes between each) but you spend long stretches standing in place pointing at stuff.

As far as I know the ads are only in CS. I could be wrong though. And steam is about the least offensive online delivery system I've seen yet.

Any multiplayer game I've ever played with a Spy class and/or snipers was always 90% Spies/snipers on pubs (and in TF, it was spies disguised as snipers  :roll:).  The allure of covert ops and backstabbing is very strong, apparently. 

Naw, I saw plenty of conc-jumping Medics, rocket-jumping soldiers, and newb HWs back when I played heavily. Plenty of engineers as well.

Also, most snipers and spies on public servers were big nubs.

It seemed like Counterstrike sucked everyone in when it came out.

So is this game actually ever going to come out or are they just jerking our chains by practicing their teaser trailer skillz?

In QuakeWorld TF Spies were not all that common. I know, I played a Medic and guarded the ramps up in 2fort4 and would whack everybody that went past me to check to make sure they weren't spies. Snipers, however, were very popular.

I've been asking that since they released a teaser to PC Gamer.



IN 1999.

Which was a totally different game back then (more like what BF2 is now).

I'm aware. It's been ten years. I've ceased caring what they put out at this point.

Er, you did see the teaser trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMgTUWfP10k&mode=related&search=), right? The map may look familiar to you.

Just loaded up The Steam now, and was going to purchase EP1, since it's supercheap atm. Then 2 things occured to me. Does the disc version of Ep1 have anything extra to the Steamed one? And am I perhaps better off waiting till Ep2 comes out to get the almost-guaranteed-to-happen get-both-deal since I likely won't get around to playing 1 it for awhile anyways?

I wont touch Steam and I wont touch Ads. Fortunately the games that come to Aus seem to have their ads stripped so that's that out. It still needs Steam though and fuck that.

I dont know about the ad's, but I love steam.  It started out buggy and laggy when they first launched it, and I was against it initially, but I've turned to a complete convert.  It runs perfect for me, downloading and playing games is fast and easy.  I never have any problems with it, and its actually pretty nice to be able to install the games on any computer I want without needing the CDs.  They are building up a good selection indie games as well, so I fully support it. 

So is it just the ad's, or do you actually hate steam?  What is there to hate about it exactly?

Put me in that camp too.


You could probably root around here and find some of my old vitriol about Steam.  I hated it with a seething hate.

I now think it's fabulouso awesome splenda.

You also won't touch the apostrophe key, apparently.

Bold added by me of course. I was playing CS heavily when steam came out and got fucked sideways by it for ages, and then at one point I just decided I was done with Steam forever. I really don't care what they've done with it nowdays, I care that they felt fucking me over by putting a shitty, broken system into an already stable game that I'd been playing for years was perfectly fine. So since a few months of the Steam release I've not played a single game that requires Steam and never will. Yes that means no HL2, CSS, etc. And the ads, I don't like ads in the things I pay for. If I pay for a game that's the money you make from me, not what I payed plus advertising revenue.


Yeah I don't apostrophe wont because it doesn't feel like a concatenated word [EDIT: actually I'm thinking these are something other than concatenated words possibly, but I don't care enough to look it up]. What is a "wo", exactly? If the word was "willn't" I could go with some apostrophe there, but as it stands it just doesn't feel right to put it in, and it doesn't hurt the word any to leave it out. They should have just declared it a new word IMO. So there.

Also, Teleku "dont" use apostrophes either, why are you not chastising him, huh? I smell bias!

Yeah except "wont" is already an actual word that means "inclined" as in "I corrected your spelling error, as I am wont to do".

You can have words that have double meanings in the English language.

voodoolily you might try typing American if you want people to understand what you try to say.

....except for the fact that the correct spelling of "won't" is actually "won't" rather than "wont".


That's what you get with a language that has evolved but now been formalised.

(http://www.forumspile.com/Spelling-DictionaryNazi.gif)

You missed the unspoken part of post where I basically say I realise that "won't" is the correct spelling but I spell it "wont" because to my mind that's how it should be. Now that's not a "I'm special so I spell it like this" kind of deal, like the guy who decided he was going to type in lowercase, it's literally how my mind figures it should be unless I stop to think about what I'm doing. I don't spellcheck my posts except for a week or 2 a while back when I decided I should but dropped it because I got bored of it throwing up a gamer term and then nothing. I write my posts in a stream of consciousness fashion and then I do a readover before I post it. If my mind can read over it without jarring it gets posted. Considering I spell at least 99.9999999% of my words correctly without trying, actual criticisms of my spelling can get the fuck off. Now I am/was operating under the assumption that people are/were joking, but if not it's really pathetic that you care enough I spelt one word wrong in a post on the internet.

That's enough spelling/grammar crap for one thread.

This is f13, not an English class.

I can understand you and u rnt mangling teh engrish so I'm just giving you shit as a muckabout.

sinij - thanks for the pic. I saved it.


Back to the topic - hasn't CS always been a free mod if you have HL1?

CS and TF have always been free/bundled mods.

CS wasn't around at the time. The original TF was a qw release in late '96. I have fond memories of getting owned at it over and over and over and over and over AND OVER again. Like Yoru said, the half-life mod was shit.

Blah, screw you, HL mod version was awsome! :p

Spelling e-peen battles are stupid, and I say that as a kid who was in the National Bee ESPN rounds...

On the topic of in-game ads, were they totally stripped out of the Australian release of BF2142? And does that version still have the spyware on it?

According to the wiki, Australian law prevents in-game ads from being used.  But who knows? 

Someone who played it? :P

Yeah all the ads and spyware was stripped from bf2142 for Australia. The billboards instead had game-related propaganda like "the PAC are coming!" with a PAC soldier standing there and suchlike.

Ah ok then,

It might even be worth me checking it out then. Honestly, the Spyware was an even bigger issue for than the ads. Though the ads alone are enough to have kept me from buying it...