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Topic: Good presentation by the Guild Wars guys (Read 2686 times)
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Murgos
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Also ran that sold 4 million boxes...
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Modern Angel
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Britney Spears sold a ton of CDs. That doesn't make her creative. That's what I meant. It sure as shit sold boxes but it was Diablo with shitty loot.
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schild
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Actually the problem was it wasn't diablo AND it had shitty loot.
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Amaron
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Regardless of whether or not you think it sucks it's certainly not an also ran when the expansions continue to sell like hotcakes.
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schild
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Regardless of whether or not you think it sucks it's certainly not an also ran when the expansions continue to sell like hotcakes.
Oh, I definitely wouldn't call it "also-ran" but I would call it hella-disappointing - even if I have the original and second two expansions in collector's flavor. |
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Nebu
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I think Schild hit hit on the head. In GW the loot os meaningless for the most part and the combat is vanilla. I don't want loot to be what the game is about, but if you're going to go to the trouble of having loot in the first place you may as well make it something to peak interest. Once a character is geared up there's almost no point in even having drops.
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sam, an eggplant
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I could never get into GW. I love the art and world design, I appreciate what they did with the card battle type skill systems, and I love the subscriptionless business model, but it lacks that certain something... it never hooked me. I'd buy an expansion, play for 5 hours, then never log in again. I can't quite nail down what it was missing. It wasn't endgame advancement, because I never managed to get over level 7. I never felt that urge to log back in and play.
Anyway, that presentation was dead on; Strain understands the industry. Can't disagree with a word he said.
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Threash
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Britney Spears sold a ton of CDs. That doesn't make her creative. That's what I meant. It sure as shit sold boxes but it was Diablo with shitty loot.
It makes her incredibly fucking successfull, not an also ran. |
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Modern Angel
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I fail to see why I'm being misunderstood here. I said an also ran CREATIVELY.
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taolurker
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Sometimes designs endure and genres emerge for good reason, and arbitrarily changing things that work just so you can label your game as innovative can lead to failure as quickly as producing a generic also-ran. I chuckled when I read this, mainly because of how closely Guild Wars resembles it, and also because of how it was used in this thread. |
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Modern Angel
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Talking the talk but not precisely walking the walk. Remember when Guild Wars was supposed to be a predominately pvp game, where balance was king?
I always buy the expansions since me and my friends play the game an a post-expansion month long spurt but this latest one has NO pvp content and most of the skills as far as I can tell are pve only. Environments, beautiful as always. Story, written by one of the dev's five year olds as always except maybe even worse this time around.
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