Age Of Conan

[stray]

The other just leads to "MMO's suck".

But...but....They do. That's my commentary for the time being. It's not the commentary that I want to do per se, but I don't see much to get excited about here yet.

The fact that the combat system is being touted as revolutionary is telling on why I am the way I am. This kind of attack system has been done in console and arcade games for generations now (And not just with fighting games...With beat-em-ups as well). Also, none of the descriptions really chart out anything about Defense, which is what I think really makes a combat system shitty or not.

Stack that on to the fact that mmo's never really produce what they promised they would when it comes to combat. Especially what they promise in an (pre?) alpha stage. I don't know why that is, but everything usually ends up being borked or nonexistent. And who exactly is assigned to work on the combat anyways? A bunch of rpg coders from Funcom?

I don't what else to say except "Thanks for the links" and "MMO's suck". Sorry. It was originally in lighthearted jest anyhow (Signe started it!).

[edit] Take comfort in the fact that I'm only cynical when it comes to mmo's.

[Velorath]

The other just leads to "MMO's suck".

But...but....They do. That's my commentary for the time being. It's not the commentary that I want to do per se, but I don't see much to get excited about here yet.

The fact that the combat system is being touted as revolutionary is telling on why I am the way I am. This kind of attack system has been done in console and arcade games for generations now (And not just with fighting games...With beat-em-ups as well). Also, none of the descriptions really chart out anything about Defense, which is what I think really makes a combat system shitty or not.

Stack that on to the fact that mmo's never really produce what they promised they would when it comes to combat. Especially what they promise in an (pre?) alpha stage. I don't know why that is, but everything usually ends up being borked or nonexistent. And who exactly is assigned to work on the combat anyways? A bunch of rpg coders from Funcom?

I don't what else to say except "Thanks for the links" and "MMO's suck". Sorry. It was originally in lighthearted jest anyhow (Signe started it!).

[edit] Take comfort in the fact that I'm only cynical when it comes to mmo's.

I've said myself in other topics here about Age of Conan that I'd be surprised if a lot of what they're talking about makes it into the game.  That said, as far as hypothetical bullshit goes, the stuff I'm reading here at least sounds more entertaining than most of the hypothetical bullshit I've heard about most other upcomming MMO's right now.  Hell as long as they keep the first 20 levels free like they say they're going to, then you at least get a "single player" game out of it that you don't need to subscribe to.

[JoeTF]

Did they mention how they're going to combat hacking? By providing single player game, they give everything to players. Not that smart thing to do.

[Margalis]

It may still require a server connection. When Phantasy Star Online came out for the PC that's what they did, even the single player parts stored the character on the server. Single player != no internet connection.

[Velorath]

It may still require a server connection. When Phantasy Star Online came out for the PC that's what they did, even the single player parts stored the character on the server. Single player != no internet connection.

Yeah, they've said that you'll still be on the server.  There'll just be little to no interaction with the other players, and you'll be able to play those levels without a sub.

[Signe]

Heh, sorry bud. I don't know Signe's excuse, but at this point, I honestly, truly hate all mmog's thoroughly. I'll laugh at all of them with equal measure.

I'm sorry.  I don't have an excuse.  I just say stuff.

Here:



Could there be anything cuter?

[Velorath]

Heh, sorry bud. I don't know Signe's excuse, but at this point, I honestly, truly hate all mmog's thoroughly. I'll laugh at all of them with equal measure.

I'm sorry.  I don't have an excuse.  I just say stuff.

Yeah, but that's the secret of your charm.  Stray... not so much  

[stray]

My suspicions were correct. Gosh....If Vel, then who else?

[Velorath]

My suspicions were correct. Gosh....If Vel, then who else?

Don't get me wrong Stray, you're actually one of my favorite posters here (even if you guys lose me when the talk shifts to physics and thermodynamics and the like).  I just like your reasoned MMO hate much better than the blind MMO hate.  I was there with you in Severance.  I know WoW did bad things to you, but you have to believe that there'll be better times to come.

Or something...

[stray]

It wasn't just WoW, but something else (heh can't say).

But anyways, I admit, most of anything I say about mmo's hasn't been constructive lately. I'll keep myself in check from now on.

[Velorath]

It wasn't just WoW, but something else (heh can't say).

But anyways, I admit, most of anything I say about mmo's hasn't been constructive lately. I'll keep myself in check from now on.

Well it doesn't seem like there'll be much of substance to discuss until DDO releases at which point I'm guessing you'll have plenty of "constructive" things to say about it.

Maybe the real problem I'm seeing though is that "teh hate" seems more extreme when we don't have batshit insane posters like SirBruce, DV, and WindUpNutsack here to put it in perspective by acting even less rational.  To that end I think that every banned poster should be allowed to post again during Raging Douchebag week and other special occasions.

[Signe]

I don't think we can put SirBruce or even WUN in the same catagory as DV.  If an asshole could be an outie... that would be him.

[Sky]

If an asshole could be an outie... that would be him.

Ooo, that was a good one. Well, I mean a bad one. But it was good. But also bad.

[HaemishM]

Can I just say that I view the hype about Age of Conan with what can most nicely be described as "carefully guarded interest" as opposed to out and out cynicism?

It's a new set of things to fuck up spectacularly. Funcom has not done anything to prove they could actually pull off the things they are talking about here, but it sounds fun enough that I'll keep watching with the above-mentioned CGI.

[MrHat]

Can I just say that I view the hype about Age of Conan with what can most nicely be described as "carefully guarded interest" as opposed to out and out cynicism?

It's a new set of things to fuck up spectacularly. Funcom has not done anything to prove they could actually pull off the things they are talking about here, but it sounds fun enough that I'll keep watching with the above-mentioned CGI.

Haemish wins again.

[Velorath]

Can I just say that I view the hype about Age of Conan with what can most nicely be described as "carefully guarded interest" as opposed to out and out cynicism?

It's a new set of things to fuck up spectacularly. Funcom has not done anything to prove they could actually pull off the things they are talking about here, but it sounds fun enough that I'll keep watching with the above-mentioned CGI.

But look at their impressive lineup of Genesis, Saturn, and SegaCD games!  You trying to tell me that the company that made Casper for the Saturn can't pull this off?

[stray]

Y'know, I had no idea that they had that much console experience (Casper or not). I can't tell which are the ports and which aren't, but still, it's somewhat encouraging.

[Margalis]

That might be the worst selection of console games I've ever seen!

Then again, Blizzard console games were nothing special either. Rock and Roll Racing was kind of fun I suppose.

[stray]

That might be the worst selection of console games I've ever seen!

Umm...Samurai Showdown?

Granted, it's just a port.

[Margalis]

I love Samurai Showdown but it's just a port, and while I haven't played that one most SNK ports in those days were pretty terrible.

Don't make me poke you with Charlotte's standing B...I will!