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Reply #35 on: September 19, 2008, 10:20:13 AM

As a trivial counterpoint 50 CS people * $5K a month per person for salary,

You think CS people make $5k a month.  That's cute.  Halve it and you're at a very highly-paid CS position.  It's a very VERY good job if you get healthcare that doesn't cost $200 a month (family plan).

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Reply #36 on: September 19, 2008, 12:01:35 PM

Running a health care plan for employees ain't cheap. I know my benefits package is nearly as expensive as my salary, but I probably have a better package than theirs. Still, including all benefits and the cost of maintaining the work space, I don't think $5k is out of line at all. Might be a bit low, even.

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Reply #37 on: September 19, 2008, 12:05:42 PM

I think I misread, then. I thought he was saying $5k PLUS those costs.  swamp poop  I'm watching my son at work while the wife's at an interview, so I'm not wasting time as efficiently as I should be.

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Reply #38 on: September 19, 2008, 03:39:00 PM

As a trivial counterpoint 50 CS people * $5K a month per person for salary,
You think CS people make $5k a month.  That's cute.  Halve it and you're at a very highly-paid CS position.  It's a very VERY good job if you get healthcare that doesn't cost $200 a month (family plan).
No I didn't say they make $5K a month. Go back and read my post which you chopped off.
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Reply #39 on: September 19, 2008, 04:05:49 PM

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Wow...just wow....

Double plus Awesome. I almost choked on my bagel.

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Reply #40 on: September 20, 2008, 07:50:18 PM

As a trivial counterpoint 50 CS people * $5K a month per person for salary,

You think CS people make $5k a month.  That's cute.  Halve it and you're at a very highly-paid CS position.  It's a very VERY good job if you get healthcare that doesn't cost $200 a month (family plan).

This... CS people making 60k a year? Huh?

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Reply #41 on: September 21, 2008, 12:49:43 AM

As a trivial counterpoint 50 CS people * $5K a month per person for salary,
You think CS people make $5k a month.  That's cute.  Halve it and you're at a very highly-paid CS position.  It's a very VERY good job if you get healthcare that doesn't cost $200 a month (family plan).
This... CS people making 60k a year? Huh?
Read my fucking full post not Merusk's chopped off verison.
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Reply #42 on: September 22, 2008, 05:28:20 AM

ok, I read your whole post... still think you're wrong.
1. 5k a month? In CHINA? lol... No healthcare needed in either the China or Europe locations.
2. I worked as a CS rep for a software company for several years. Top pay was $30k/year... and that was a manager. Most of us were making more like $8/hr and less than half were full time (no healthcare) And that's only here in the US... Again, the Europe and China locations don't need healthcare due to government systems.
3. Wages in China are around $40 a month... and that's for a good job.
4. I also worked for ATT for a while, and guess who one of our customers was... Sony Online Entertainment. ATT handled all their data trunks... They were burstable, and their usual bill was around $40k-50k/month with spikes whenever a big patch came out. This was for ALL of their games. It was a few years ago though... right before EQ2 came out... but I should also mention that bandwidth is significantly cheaper today than it was then... and the amount of bandwidth games use today hasn't gone up at all... you can still play using a modem.
5. Now I work in a NOC and monitor a network VASTLY larger than anything WOW uses. We monitor the entire network with 16 people. No we aren't paid all that much and the only reason we have 16 is due to scheduling.

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Reply #43 on: September 22, 2008, 08:00:01 AM

You can always tell people who have no business sense when they count the cost of an employee as the employee's salary alone.

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Reply #44 on: September 22, 2008, 09:12:39 AM

As a trivial counterpoint 50 CS people * $5K a month per person for salary,
You think CS people make $5k a month.  That's cute.  Halve it and you're at a very highly-paid CS position.  It's a very VERY good job if you get healthcare that doesn't cost $200 a month (family plan).
This... CS people making 60k a year? Huh?
Read my fucking full post not Merusk's chopped off verison.


Yeah, I even said after Way pointed it out that I must've misread.  I WAS WRONG STOP QUOTING ME.   Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #45 on: September 22, 2008, 11:52:06 AM

You can always tell people who have no business sense when they count the cost of an employee as the employee's salary alone.

Dude, all those computers are FREE!!!

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Reply #46 on: September 23, 2008, 05:24:40 AM

We aren't talking about setup costs. We are talking about monthly reoccurring costs.

But if you want to... the price of a bunch of compaq workstations, when bought in bulk would most likely be around $200-$300 a pop... The server equipment in the building would be a little more and I promise you they RENT the property their on. And this is all assuming they didn't just hire some CS firm, which is probably what they did.
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Reply #47 on: September 23, 2008, 06:12:33 AM

Stop talking fuckwit. You're giving me a headache.
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Reply #48 on: September 23, 2008, 07:59:23 AM

I think he should keep talking, I enjoy feeling superior.

Very superior.

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Reply #49 on: September 23, 2008, 08:04:00 AM

Stop talking fuckwit. You're giving me a headache.

That was my goal.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

I think he should keep talking, I enjoy feeling superior.

Very superior.

That was not... but you always feel like that... it couldn't be helped.

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Reply #50 on: September 23, 2008, 08:06:39 AM

With people like you speaking out of your ass, it's easy to do.

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