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Reply #35 on: December 18, 2007, 06:53:30 AM

It isn't even a war between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD at this point. HD-DVD is largely being funded by Microsoft -- and even they don't give a shit about it. They're just trying to roadblock the entire disc medium in general.


Either way though, Blade Runner in HD is hardly anything to get excited about.
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Reply #36 on: December 18, 2007, 07:45:33 AM

I got my 5 free bluray movies from my PS3 purchase. I didn't notice a huge picture quality difference but I did notice that sounds were much, much clearer since they were uncompressed. I will mention I noticed some difference in picture quality but it wasn't as big as say, the jump from VHS to DVD.

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Reply #37 on: December 18, 2007, 08:02:09 AM

Eh, I'm gonna have to ask the same thing I asked BigGulp: DLP or Projection?

Otherwise, there's a very noticeable difference. With new movies at least. Almost detrimental at times in fact! -- I mean, it's not exactly pleasing to view the pores on Brandon Routh's face.

On the flipside, it's pretty cool to make out the faces of each actor in the background and foreground in a wide pan shot.
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Reply #38 on: December 18, 2007, 08:13:44 AM

DLP. I did notice some differences, don't get me wrong. For instance things had more "texture". I never saw the first Pirates of the Caribbean in the theaters and I definitely noticed that their clothes were leather this time around, things like that. I just didn't notice as big of a difference as I was expecting.

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Reply #39 on: December 18, 2007, 08:14:15 AM

Who won the DVD-A vs. SACD war? Seven years on, vinyl sells more than both combined. I think it'll be the same with HD video formats - not enough consumers will give a shit, and both formats will linger on, going nowhere. Also, Microsoft and Apple won't see Google Entertainment coming and will become Napster sized also-rans in the Brave New World that runs on Google's Alpha 60 central computer.

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Reply #40 on: December 18, 2007, 08:18:23 AM

DLP. I did notice some differences, don't get me wrong. For instance things had more "texture". I never saw the first Pirates of the Caribbean in the theaters and I definitely noticed that their clothes were leather this time around, things like that. I just didn't notice as big of a difference as I was expecting.

Not to knock your TV or anything, but well... OK, I'm knocking your TV. DLP sucks.  Ohhhhh, I see. For games too.


I see downloadable shit as a good compliment and convenience, but people will always love their hard copies.
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Reply #41 on: December 18, 2007, 08:24:56 AM

DLP. I did notice some differences, don't get me wrong. For instance things had more "texture". I never saw the first Pirates of the Caribbean in the theaters and I definitely noticed that their clothes were leather this time around, things like that. I just didn't notice as big of a difference as I was expecting.

Not to knock your TV or anything, but well... OK, I'm knocking your TV. DLP sucks.  Ohhhhh, I see. For games too.


I see downloadable shit as a good compliment and convenience, but people will always love their hard copies.

Really? You'd take projection over DLP? Hmmm....my next TV might be a plasma just so I don't have to worry about the stupid bulbs anymore.

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Reply #42 on: December 18, 2007, 08:29:14 AM

Hell no, I wouldn't take either. I just mentioned those two because they're the ones that won't bring out the color, contrast, or sharpness that HD quality provides. Usually when someone tells me that they don't see much difference in HD, I'll ask if they're viewing projection or dlp. It's like the only thing they're good for is size/price. Picture wise, they're not much of an improvement over old school TV's -- other than being able to accept different resolutions, and better angle viewing.

But anyways, I wouldn't buy anything except plasma or lcd.
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Reply #43 on: December 18, 2007, 09:15:09 AM

Hmmmm.....I see.

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Reply #44 on: December 18, 2007, 05:27:59 PM

I have an old tube TV that's something like 23".  Before I had that, I watched TV and videos in a 3"x4" window on my desktop while I surfed the web and/or did homework on the rest of the screen.

Needless to say, I think all y'all arguing about the merits of HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray are nuts.   awesome, for real

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Reply #45 on: December 18, 2007, 10:10:36 PM

So we picked up the Final Cut set tonight, and watched the first disk in the box (said final cut).

No narration, and those minute+ traveling scenes really screamed for somthing, it got hard to watch at a few points.

So which version do I need to watch? Theatrical, directors, one that didn't come in my box?

And what was the directors cut ending, should I be upset with what I saw?

I apologize in advance for not having seen blade runner hundreds of times and knowing the answers to these, but after watching the final cut I was left with an overwhelming sense of 'meh', I just don't get the hype.
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Reply #46 on: December 18, 2007, 10:14:51 PM

From what I've heard of this set, it still doesn't compare to the Brazil Criterion set. Which is a shame. A damn shame.
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Reply #47 on: December 19, 2007, 02:18:59 AM

So we picked up the Final Cut set tonight, and watched the first disk in the box (said final cut).

No narration, and those minute+ traveling scenes really screamed for somthing, it got hard to watch at a few points.

So which version do I need to watch? Theatrical, directors, one that didn't come in my box?

And what was the directors cut ending, should I be upset with what I saw?

I apologize in advance for not having seen blade runner hundreds of times and knowing the answers to these, but after watching the final cut I was left with an overwhelming sense of 'meh', I just don't get the hype.

There's some other minutiae  but the two most important factors of the Director's Cut versus the original movie are 1) No voiceover and 2) no happy ending.

The final cut takes the directors cut, reshoots a few scenes, corrects the number of replicants mentioned, and reworks things a bit here and there.     So more polish as it were. 

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Reply #48 on: December 19, 2007, 06:33:16 AM

So we picked up the Final Cut set tonight, and watched the first disk in the box (said final cut).

No narration, and those minute+ traveling scenes really screamed for somthing, it got hard to watch at a few points.

So which version do I need to watch? Theatrical, directors, one that didn't come in my box?

And what was the directors cut ending, should I be upset with what I saw?

I apologize in advance for not having seen blade runner hundreds of times and knowing the answers to these, but after watching the final cut I was left with an overwhelming sense of 'meh', I just don't get the hype.

There's some other minutiae  but the two most important factors of the Director's Cut versus the original movie are 1) No voiceover and 2) no happy ending.

The final cut takes the directors cut, reshoots a few scenes, corrects the number of replicants mentioned, and reworks things a bit here and there.     So more polish as it were. 



The other major difference is that the director's cut pretty much answers the "Who or what is Deckard?" question for you with the Unicorn dream and the origami. In fact, I'd say that in the theatrical cut it's assumed Deckard is human.

If you want the narration you want to watch the original theatrical cut. I may watch that simply because it has been so long I can't really remember if the narration is any good or is as bad as everyone says.

"We live in a country, where John Lennon takes six bullets in the chest, Yoko Ono was standing right next to him and not one fucking bullet! Explain that to me! Explain that to me, God! Explain it to me, God!" - Denis Leary summing up my feelings about the nature of the universe.
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Reply #49 on: December 19, 2007, 06:44:56 AM

So we picked up the Final Cut set tonight, and watched the first disk in the box (said final cut).

No narration, and those minute+ traveling scenes really screamed for somthing, it got hard to watch at a few points.

So which version do I need to watch? Theatrical, directors, one that didn't come in my box?

And what was the directors cut ending, should I be upset with what I saw?

I apologize in advance for not having seen blade runner hundreds of times and knowing the answers to these, but after watching the final cut I was left with an overwhelming sense of 'meh', I just don't get the hype.

There's some other minutiae  but the two most important factors of the Director's Cut versus the original movie are 1) No voiceover and 2) no happy ending.

The final cut takes the directors cut, reshoots a few scenes, corrects the number of replicants mentioned, and reworks things a bit here and there.     So more polish as it were. 



The other major difference is that the director's cut pretty much answers the "Who or what is Deckard?" question for you with the Unicorn dream and the origami. In fact, I'd say that in the theatrical cut it's assumed Deckard is human.

If you want the narration you want to watch the original theatrical cut. I may watch that simply because it has been so long I can't really remember if the narration is any good or is as bad as everyone says.

Pretty much.   I was watching an interview with Ridley Scott  and he mentioned that he and Ford still discuss this on occasion - Scott says that Deckard is a replicant, Ford says he's human.
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Reply #50 on: December 19, 2007, 06:49:47 AM

I heard that in a documentary on the new set (or maybe a commentary during the movie) Scott says that if you watch the Director's Cut and don't get that Deckard is a replicant then you're stupid. Lol.

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Reply #51 on: December 19, 2007, 07:13:47 AM

Scott says that Deckard is a replicant, Ford says he's human.

Hampton Fancher, the writer, also thinks Deckard is human and one of the drafts that he wrote (before David Peoples amended it) before shooting pretty much implies that he's human as well.  It would seem that Scott is the only one who thinks differently and hammered his point home with the inclusion of a spurious dream sequence about unicorns. 

Fancher's take on the whole thing was that Deckard may well be human but he's more emotionless, more lacking in empathy, more of a machine than the replicants he's hunting.  But, pretty much like everyone else who worked on the film, he fell out with Scott who then got Peoples to do revisions on the script which included a reference to Deckard being a replicant at the end.

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Reply #52 on: December 20, 2007, 10:16:30 AM

Pretty cool interview with the director over at NPR.org.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17450340

Scott talks about the origin of the title "Replicant", gives his feelings about the source material and how P.K. Dick felt about that.

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