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Draegan
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Right click was to attack with a basic attack, and it almost felt like an action game. It took a bit to get used to it though, because your "normal" right click attack almost counts as an ability, in that it activates a cooldown on your special abilities. So if you keep spamming what would be the Auto-Attack in other MMO's you wouldnt be able to use any special abilities. You have to make the effort to stop attacking that way and attack with a special ability instead. Long story short you cant be attacking with a basic attack and spamming special attacks at the same time, you have to choose between one or the other.. every half second! Combat wise, this concerns me more than anything else I have heard about the game so far at all. I am definitely not a fan of spamclicky nonsense. I won't be able to say anything for certain until I can actually play and see how it feels, but I suspect I will be very unhappy if I am forced to constantly click or right-click. It's probably a default setting. I would imagine you can make "1" be basic attack.
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Lucas
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Further proof that Italians have suspect taste in games.
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It looks like Bioware started sending out a VERY limited amount of closed beta invites (a hundred or so, maybe), for a 48-hours period of testing or something. Official forums are burning with enthusiasm and rage, of course :P http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=155341If you also check the developer tracker, you'll see that Ashen Temper Sean Dahlberg was quite vague about the whole thing (while confirming that you can actually say that you are in beta, but ONLY that).
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Tearofsoul
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« Last Edit: June 23, 2010, 06:51:24 PM by Tearofsoul »
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Sky
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I love my TV an' hug my TV an' call it 'George'.
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There must be some mistake, because I don't see a beta invite in my mailbox.
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sam, an eggplant
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Great, another annoying beta where you can only play between the hours of 11:12AM and noon every third tuesday like warhammer. I hated that crap.
OK, sour grapes. I spent a full hour signing up under a dozen different email addresses the day registration opened. If I got in I'd be all jumping around in my undies making lightsaber noises knocking over furniture right now. Zschoooo! Zchhhhummm! Vrooooooodeee!
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Ginaz
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I've heard from someone who got one the "beta invite" emails that its a fake. Don't know if its true or not yet.
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Nebu
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I've heard from someone who got one the "beta invite" emails that its a fake. Don't know if its true or not yet.
Beta invites as a means to install a key logger? That's brilliant!
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Rasix
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I've heard from someone who got one the "beta invite" emails that its a fake. Don't know if its true or not yet.
Might be a good idea to check the links in the mail. Every once in a while the gold farmers aren't lazy and make stuff look legit.
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Paelos
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Looks like I'll be playing a trooper in this game, which I kind of expected. I love the grunts.
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CPA, CFO, Sports Fan, Game when I have the time
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koro
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I dunno about Ginaz's friend, but the beta is definitely going on right now, from 5 PM central earlier yesterday (the 25th) through midnight on the 28th according to the launcher.
They definitely only got a hundred or so people, though, so I don't feel too bad about missing a beta invite this round.
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sam, an eggplant
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I dunno about Ginaz's friend, but the beta is definitely going on right now, from 5 PM central earlier yesterday (the 25th) through midnight on the 28th according to the launcher.
They definitely only got a hundred or so people, though, so I don't feel too bad about missing a beta invite this round.
I'm VERY happy indeed to say that invites are still going out. I just got in. Check your spam boxes, folks. Edit: Upon close reading of the NDA, I'm allowed to post that I'm in but posting a screenshot of the invite itself may be a violation, so I removed it. Don't be sad, you're not missing much.
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« Last Edit: June 28, 2010, 12:03:17 PM by sam, an eggplant »
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Malakili
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WoWWars the old republic!
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Zane0
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What an incredible piece of shit.
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Sky
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What exactly were you guys expecting? They're not trying to reinvent the wheel, just make a polished SW IP dikummo.
Also, they've shown that footage before, but it didn't have DD's voice-over.
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Margalis
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Calling footage where characters don't cast any shadows "polished" is a bit of a stretch.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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LK
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Imps.
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Imps.
Edit: I dunno, I thought I liked it. Just hate how they use Imps for Imperials.
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« Last Edit: July 02, 2010, 10:21:30 PM by Lorekeep »
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Bill
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We're all going to play it for a month I'm sure (maybe the endless torrent of generic immersive dialogue will add an other week or so) but shit, that video made it look utterly dull.
"The trooper is going to tank" - Awesome, that's money well spent there Bioware!
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Kageru
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4 classes, relatively constrained looking skill bars, plastic people and cheesy dialogue and the addition of the "jedi healer" to the canon. I'm glad my expectations for this title were already fairly low. If I'd dreamed they were going to add something to the genre I'd probably be weeping about now.
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WoWWars the old republic! What an incredible piece of shit.
Calling footage where characters don't cast any shadows "polished" is a bit of a stretch.
This just in: People who disliked every previous SWTOR video dislike most recent SWTOR video!
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Malakili
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This just in: People who disliked every previous SWTOR video dislike most recent SWTOR video!
Hey, to be fair, I liked the cinematics
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raydeen
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I was a bit on the fence but now I'm leaning a tiny bit more toward liking it. It's got a somewhat slow pacing but I'm not seeing that as a bad thing. As much as I like WoW, sometimes things get a bit too frenetic. This at least gives me the impression I'll be able to relax a little and think things out. This was better than the previous vids in giving a feel for how the game is going to play.
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I was drinking when I wrote this, so sue me if it goes astray.
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sam, an eggplant
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Yeah, it's diku combat. Why are you people surprised by this? With the kind of money they're investing in the title, they need to aim straight for the mass-market. Besides, diku combat works pretty damn well. The healing side not so much, but hopefully Bioware has some ideas to fix diku healing and make it less about playing pop a mole.
I look at SWTOR as eight KOTORs in one box, since each class has entirely individual questlines and there's supposed to be zero duplication. Eight KOTORs for $60 seems like a pretty good deal. As I play through those eight KOTORs, I'll check out the multiplayer options as I go. If they suck, I'll quit when I hit maxlevel. Either way, I'll certainly get my sixty bucks worth.
And not to belabor the point, but SWTOR is a looooooooooong way from release. Current release date is spring 2011, but they have the budget to take their time to iterate and polish.
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« Last Edit: July 03, 2010, 10:14:33 AM by sam, an eggplant »
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Lakov_Sanite
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The fact that you people seem to think there is going to eight separate single player games worth of story to this game is beyond quaint. This is an MMO, you will get an MMO worth of story, which means questing. You may get some deviation depending on your class but don't expect much, if you played AOC you will know exactly what you're getting.
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Malakili
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I'm not surprised by it, but that doesn't make it less stupid either. Ok, so our trooper is gonna tank this guy, and our Jedi Knight is going to DPS and off tank and our other jedi is going to heal and our smuggler is going to pew pew pew from cover.
Nothing could possibly make me less interested. We've all played this game already.
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Goreschach
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Yeah, it's diku combat. Why are you people surprised by this? With the kind of money they're investing in the title, they need to aim straight for the mass-market. Besides, diku combat works pretty damn well. The healing side not so much, but hopefully Bioware has some ideas to fix diku healing and make it less about playing pop a mole.
I look at SWTOR as eight KOTORs in one box, since each class has entirely individual questlines and there's supposed to be zero duplication. Eight KOTORs for $60 seems like a pretty good deal. As I play through those eight KOTORs, I'll check out the multiplayer options as I go. If they suck, I'll quit when I hit maxlevel. Either way, I'll certainly get my sixty bucks worth.
And not to belabor the point, but SWTOR is a looooooooooong way from release. Current release date is spring 2011, but they have the budget to take their time to iterate and polish.
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Aez
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HAHAHAHAYep, they went full retard with the four class being 100% tank, mage, rogue and healer. Fucking sad.
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Draegan
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That's exactly what I pictured it to be. People are surprised? 4 classes, relatively constrained looking skill bars, plastic people and cheesy dialogue and the addition of the "jedi healer" to the canon. I'm glad my expectations for this title were already fairly low. If I'd dreamed they were going to add something to the genre I'd probably be weeping about now.
Those are low level characters so of course their skill bars are going to be small. Though the graphics need some help, I'm assuming their graphics engine is not fully running because they won't release that way. If they do though thats pretty I'm not sure what people were expecting. We have seen some of these videos for a while now. You're also not seeing the companions yet either. Remember that. That would allow the healers to fight a little bit if they have a healer bot with them. I guess people are angry because they can't be a moisture farmer. And sam is right. It's a bunch of KOTORs in a single MMOverse. Seems like a good deal to me.
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Reg
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This thread is starting to look as negative as the one about the last James Cameron movie before it was released. I'll be amused if it turns out the same way.
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sam, an eggplant
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The fact that you people seem to think there is going to eight separate single player games worth of story to this game is beyond quaint. This is an MMO, you will get an MMO worth of story, which means questing. You may get some deviation depending on your class but don't expect much, if you played AOC you will know exactly what you're getting.
All I can say is that I have high hopes for SWTOR's single-player experience.
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eldaec
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That's exactly what I pictured it to be. People are surprised? 4 classes, relatively constrained looking skill bars, plastic people and cheesy dialogue and the addition of the "jedi healer" to the canon. I'm glad my expectations for this title were already fairly low. If I'd dreamed they were going to add something to the genre I'd probably be weeping about now.
Those are low level characters so of course their skill bars are going to be small. There are actually people who like only having two or three skills. Many of these people post here. Personally I think they are crazy.
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DLRiley
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Everyone has high hopes for the single player experience.
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WindupAtheist
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I guess people are angry because they can't be a moisture farmer. I'm angry they're going with the same old "three jobs required, two of which nobody likes" routine we're all sick of.
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DLRiley
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Its worked since EQ
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