Rokal
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They're all good changes but I can't say any of them make me want to play the game again. Maybe by the time 2013 rolls around and new game releases/expansions have slowed, they'll have made more significant changes to the itemization.
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Paelos
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I did get my first set drop last night ever! So that was exciting.
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Shatter
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Those changes are a decent start...if it were 2 months ago. Im guessing Aug 28 as their patch day? :P
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Soulflame
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I agree that those changes are a good start, but who knows when the patch will hit. Additionally, they may not be enough to keep me actually playing.
Although getting rid of Invulnerable minions is really awesome.
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01101010
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I am through waiting for this game to get it right. I expect blowjobs and lollipops while I wait for the devs to implement the fun and I have received neither. It was fun at first, then the fuse burned out. I have no qualms about purchasing it, but it hardly lasted as long as it should have... at least in my mind.
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Does any one know where the love of God goes...When the waves turn the minutes to hours? -G. Lightfoot
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waffel
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Well, they're trying. Slowly. But they're trying.
I'm not sure if the people that have stuck it out this long and continue to play every day enjoy the game, or are just new to gaming and don't know any better.
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Setanta
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So after all this time of telling us that D2 had it wrong, they are heading (slowly) back to what D2 was.
I wish I could say that it's a positive patch, but I'm soured on D3/Cataclysm and would rather read a book than play D3 again.
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"No man is an island. But if you strap a bunch of dead guys together it makes a damn fine raft."
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Xanthippe
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So after all this time of telling us that D2 had it wrong, they are heading (slowly) back to what D2 was.
I wish I could say that it's a positive patch, but I'm soured on D3/Cataclysm and would rather read a book than play D3 a Blizzard game again.
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Ironwood
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Also me.
It's such a shame.
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Margalis
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So after all this time of telling us that D2 had it wrong, they are heading (slowly) back to what D2 was.
The people saying that had never made a game as good as D2. A lot of what they said appeared to make sense, but either the execution failed or while it made sense on paper it just didn't work in reality. The runes are a good example of this, on paper you have a billion combinations and you can't get stuck in a skill tree the way you did in D2, but in reality the game is less sticky and playing a second of the same class is pointless. I remember reading early interviews with the D3 people and thinking if it aint broke don't fix it. They seemed to have some clever change for each "problem" in D2, which made me nervous. When all they do is list problems it makes me think they missed the appeal of the game.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Lantyssa
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They forgot their own innovation which was take what works and iterate the hell out of it, not scrap everything and re-write it from scratch.
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Feverdream
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Wow. Those patch notes definitely look like a shift in the right direction.
I'm a little sad as I notice I'm just not that excited about them, though. I so looked forward to D3, and like many others ended up frustrated and disappointed. In six months or so I could see myself going back to D3...maybe...as a very part-time game when I'm in the mood for mindless demon-slaying and loot hunting. I loved that aspect of D2.
They just dropped the ball so hard on D3 that it's hard to motivate myself to consider playing again.
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Llyse
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I'm glad they're getting rid of or reducing some of the dumber shit they did.
agree. really glad they are giving me a reason to play with friends (my preferred style of play is co-op) All good stuff but 2 months too late. Not even sure I would reinstall to try the skill revamp.
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statisticalfool
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Wow. Those patch notes definitely look like a shift in the right direction.
I'm a little sad as I notice I'm just not that excited about them, though. I so looked forward to D3, and like many others ended up frustrated and disappointed. In six months or so I could see myself going back to D3...maybe...as a very part-time game when I'm in the mood for mindless demon-slaying and loot hunting. I loved that aspect of D2.
They just dropped the ball so hard on D3 that it's hard to motivate myself to consider playing again.
I think the problem revolves around that even if I wanted to come back to play for a little bit, what would I do? Grind out some gold in order to hope to buy an inflated piece of gear from the AH?
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Paelos
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In general, gear prices have dropped a lot. There are several pieces that are ridiculous because they are BIS pieces, but you can put together a functional set of Act 1 inferno gear for less than a million gold. Also, you can make a million gold in about 4-5 hours of playing if you farm with gold gear at the hell levels.
The barrier in Act 2 is still there, but I've found it's not anywhere near as ludicrous to pick up gear for that test. I'm about halfway through it atm.
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Salamok
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GF gear isn't cheap either. The economy is seriously f'd up and this will be a huge detriment to anyone who took a break prior to getting decently far into inferno.
I will say that as the economy spins wildly out of control crafting is now becoming viable as buying 100k lottery tickets might be a cheaper route to that 20mil upgrade. Although from what I have seen the odds of getting 4 decently rolled and desirable affixes on a 6 affix pattern are probably worse than 1 in 200. They need to let MF boost stat rolls when crafting or something, start getting some of this gold out of the economy.
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Xanthippe
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Or just fiddle with the drop formulas to increase the proportion of useful drops. Higher supply of decent drops ought to lead to lower prices.
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Salamok
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Or just fiddle with the drop formulas to increase the proportion of useful drops. Higher supply of decent drops ought to lead to lower prices.
True but they need an exit strategy for all the gold that has been amassed.
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waffel
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Or just fiddle with the drop formulas to increase the proportion of useful drops. Higher supply of decent drops ought to lead to lower prices.
True but they need an exit strategy for all the gold that has been amassed. ............... ladder reset............
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Salamok
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Or just fiddle with the drop formulas to increase the proportion of useful drops. Higher supply of decent drops ought to lead to lower prices.
True but they need an exit strategy for all the gold that has been amassed. ............... ladder reset............ has my vote!
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Amaron
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1.04 tonight: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6368188147All level 60- 62 damage affixes have had their Minimum and Maximum top-end damage values increased
Level 63 items will still roll the highest potential damage values in the game, but the damage difference between level 60-62 items and level 63 items just won’t be as dramatic as it was before
Note: This will only impact items created or dropped after patch 1.0.4
That solves one of the bigger problems with loot at least.
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Paelos
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I'm damn excited actually. I'll post my experiences here as they go instead of in the "THIS GAME IS A TURD" thread.
Here's some of the smaller things I'm really happy to see on that patch list:
•Auctions can now be cancelled at any point so long as they do not have any active bids •Number of "Preferred Stats" allowed per search increased from 3 to 6 •Stat increases which come from slotted gems are no longer taken into account when searching for equipment •The listing price of unsold and cancelled auctions will now display in the Completed tab •The frequency of follower dialog has been reduced •Drop rate on quivers has been reduced •Destructible objects now have a chance to drop items again •The maximum stack size of gems has been increased from 30 to 100 •Moon Clan Ranged monsters should now run away for shorter distances •It should now be significantly easier to dodge Triune Berserker Power Hits
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Phred
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•Destructible objects now have a chance to drop items again
Man way to call it. Never expected that to be changed back but then I didn't expect them to go into full mea culpa mode so soon either.
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apocrypha
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This is the patch that might get me to try D3 again.
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Malakili
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This is basically why I never went into full "This game is terrible, down with Blizzard" mode over Diablo 3. The core gameplay always seemed pretty good to me, and this sort of stuff (itemization and end game) is something Blizzard has traditionally had to take a while to get right in their games.
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Xanthippe
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Reading the blue posts is why I went into full "down with Blizzard" mode over D3 (but also WoW, after Cataclysm launched).
This patch is in the right direction, and I may try it again (if I ever get tired of Minecraft), but I am really really really really really sick of developers who blame people for not finding fun because they aren't playing their game right.
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Merusk
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This is what happens when you build for the customers you want instead of the customers you have.
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Paelos
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This is what happens when you build for the customers you want instead of the customers you have.
This patch or the original game? If you mean the original game, I'd agree. If you mean the patch, I think you're nuts.
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Merusk
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Was a response to Xanth, so more for the original game than the patch. The whole "sick of developers..." line.
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Cheddar
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Oh, its LIVE! I am excited, gonna pop in shortly and get some shinies.
Especially the weapon change. Thank God.
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No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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waffel
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MuffinMan
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Well well well, let's see how long it's going to take to redownload the client so I can mull it over.
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Cheddar
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Had a blast tonight. Yellows dropped left and right (smash barrel and get yellow? WIN!)
Made 600k off a run through book run from drops alone. Debating on switching back to my pet focused Witch Doctor. Be fun to see how a high vit/damage WD's pets do with this.
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No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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Ingmar
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My pets feel MUCH more powerful now. Maybe enough to make me bother with Inferno, they stood up to Hell Diablo just fine, I only had to resummon a couple times in the fight, and none at all while building up my stack.
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Malakili
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Found a Windforce (Legendary) bow in Act 3 Inferno. 1200 dps and some nice stats, ended up being a nice upgrade for me.
The jump to inferno should be a lot easier now, lower end "good" gear seems a lot more plentiful in this patch.
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