The Elder Scrolls Online

[Lantyssa]

Last I checked, the Elder Scrolls games didn't have hotbars at all, so while they may have a reasonable amount they're adding bars given the source material.

[Paelos]

There's no way to polish this turd. It's now moved from actual game into "box sales scam"

[Falconeer]

They got a lot less for their 200 million than Bioware did if that's true.

I'm waiting for the surprise announcement that all the text is voice acted.

There you go.
John Cleese, Bill Nighy, Kate Beckinsale, Alfred Molina, Lynda Carter, Michael Gambon, and Malcolm McDowell.

[Signe]

I thought it looked fun.  I would have liked to see it in HD unless, of course, it was my eyes that were blurry and not the video quality.  And it comes with Lum!  (not in a pervy way, though)

[Triforcer]

There's no way to polish this turd. It's now moved from actual game into "box sales scam"

I still cannot tell if this thread is f13 goth affectation plus anti-mmo elder scroll purist crazies or real analysis.  If this was the movie forum, the negativity would allow me to confidently conclude that it must be the greatest mmo ever.

[WayAbvPar]

They got a lot less for their 200 million than Bioware did if that's true.

I'm waiting for the surprise announcement that all the text is voice acted.

There you go.
John Cleese, Bill Nighy, Kate Beckinsale, Alfred Molina, Lynda Carter, Michael Gambon, and Malcolm McDowell.

The fuck is Lynda Carter doing there?

[Modern Angel]

I still cannot tell if this thread is f13 goth affectation plus anti-mmo elder scroll purist crazies or real analysis.  If this was the movie forum, the negativity would allow me to confidently conclude that it must be the greatest mmo ever.

NDA!

[HaemishM]

Shouldn't we expect more from online games in 2014 2004?

Fixed that shit for you.

[Nija]

Dr. Sbaitso is missing from that image.

[Paelos]

There's no way to polish this turd. It's now moved from actual game into "box sales scam"

I still cannot tell if this thread is f13 goth affectation plus anti-mmo elder scroll purist crazies or real analysis.  If this was the movie forum, the negativity would allow me to confidently conclude that it must be the greatest mmo ever.

Judge for yourself, feel free to buy the game. I can't tell you why due to the NDA, but you were warned.

[PalmTrees]

The fuck is Lynda Carter doing there?

Being shopped to look 30 years younger.

[WayAbvPar]

Notice it is a headshot. Either she eventually opted for surgery (almost a guarantee) or those things are around her ankles by now.

[Ingmar]

Scam overstates it. The game isn't for me but it will have fans.

[Stormwaltz]

The fuck is Lynda Carter doing there?

She's married to ZeniMax CEO Robert Altman.

[Ingmar]

She was also like 1/3 of the voices in Oblivion, roughly, so it isn't like she hasn't done VA for them before.

[WayAbvPar]

She just seems so out of place among all the Brits with distinctive voices. Lynda Carter could call me on my phone right now and I wouldn't have any idea who the fuck she was.

[Falconeer]

Lynda was awesome!

[Paelos]

Scam overstates it. The game isn't for me but it will have fans.

If it was just a $60 price point to play the game, end transmission? Just a bad game and not a scam. I think them releasing this as a sub game in addition to that high price is the scam. They know that sub isn't feasible. They are going to ride this NDA as far as they can with a huge marketing effort to take a big ole box dump on the playing populace in the hopes they can recoup something on this ridiculous budget. And they are going to offer cuts on 6 months of playtime to lock people in before they go to F2P within the year end.

[koro]

Lynda Carter's voiced a lot of NPCs in the Elder Scrolls series (Nords and Orcs, mainly) all the way back to Morrowind.

[Tannhauser]

No way I'm going near this until some f13'ers whose opinions I respect weigh in on it.

[Nevermore]

Considering 95% of f13ers hate 99% of MMOs, odds are you won't ever go anywhere near this.

[Ingmar]

Scam overstates it. The game isn't for me but it will have fans.

If it was just a $60 price point to play the game, end transmission? Just a bad game and not a scam. I think them releasing this as a sub game in addition to that high price is the scam. They know that sub isn't feasible. They are going to ride this NDA as far as they can with a huge marketing effort to take a big ole box dump on the playing populace in the hopes they can recoup something on this ridiculous budget. And they are going to offer cuts on 6 months of playtime to lock people in before they go to F2P within the year end.

I save 'scam' for things that are actually unethical, or don't deliver what they claim to. This is what it is, but it isn't a scam. There's a lot of content and it's the sort of thing people have paid $15 for in the past. You might not find it a good value, and I don't either in this case, but that doesn't make it a scam.

[calapine]

Yus. Agree with Ingmar here. From a pure quality point of view I think it will release in a better state than say Age of Conan. That doesn't make it a good game though.

[Threash]

Even if they know they will have to go f2p eventually trying to milk the early adopters is not a scam.

[Paelos]

Even if they know they will have to go f2p eventually trying to milk the early adopters is not a scam.

I disagree, but I can't prove what they know and what they don't. What I think will likely happen is this releases, runs for the year and then goes F2P before Christmas. Beyond that, I think Bethesda is going to have to make a tough call on whether or not it's worth keeping the game alive and shitting all over the IP, or killing it before releasing a real game that TES fans will actually enjoy in the hopes the damage won't be that bad to sales.

[Draegan]

While that video may look good, from what I've read on other forums the combat handles like shit. Phantom key presses, delayed reactions, floaty movement etc.

[Venkman]

This is the newest official video, where the Devs show off their PvE group content. Supposedly, this is the best example of PvE in TESO at this point, if they are confident enough to release it with commentary and all and considering the negative buzz already surrounding the game. Well, judge it for yourself...

Does anyone here think that the combat in this video looks fun and interesting?  

14 years of MMOs and I have never ever seen an MMO video of PvE combat make that combat look good. It's like screenshots for an FPS. There's just certain elements of a UX that cannot possibly be communicated outside of a demo.

I'm just commenting on ability of a video to convey "fun" though. Specific to TESO: I don't think much of it. It's a stock implementation of an already tired interpretation of MMOs.  So if you're playing TESO and don't think it's fun, the video wont' change your mind. And if you're not playing TESO and don't think the video puts TESO in a very good light, you're probably not wrong. 

[Draegan]

Go check bout the Korean video for tera that showcases their new class. That's a fun combat video to watch.

[Triforcer]

ESO Imperial edition picture leaked to Amazon.  Remember all that devsplaining about how having Imperials as a race wouldn't make sense?  Apparently, earth dollars plug the hole in the lore  

[calapine]

Ring of marriage gives bonus XP... Time to get hooked up!

(Dibs on Lantyssa  )

[Lakov_Sanite]

Race locked behind paywall? It's like all the great advantages* of a F2P game with all the advantages* of a subscription game, combined!



*The ability to spend more money.

[Miasma]

Is that image real?

[calapine]

Yes, of course.

https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store

[ajax34i]

Shrug, they will generate some sales with that.  People love stuff that's "limited."  I expect they'll copy quite a few of the SWTOR cartel market features.

[satael]

25€ extra (compared to normal digital edition) for some digital in-game stuff (no sound track or anything like that) seems a bit.. excessive.