State of The Game - Mark Jacobs

[UnSub]

Look, I agree with you in theory 100%.  However, what we've seen so far is that a sizable percentage players don't want to leave the scenarios.  We will keep upping the rewards but my concern is that a sizable percentage will still want to stay in the scenarios because that is what they are used to doing so I want to be prepared for that.  It doesn't mean we will do it but it would be foolish of us not to prepare for it. 

Late to this thread but I have to chime in. I don't get this at all.

People who like RVR aren't doing RVR because the rewards for it suck. Makes sense. (In MMO land anyway) The proposal is to make the rewards good. The new problem is that some people still don't want to do RVR...how is that a problem?

Isn't different people finding different things they enjoy a GOOD thing? Isn't that the whole point of having different activities in the first place? It's like building a road and then complaining that CARS ARE DRIVING ON IT!!!

If people running scenarios is in itself a problem then scenarios should be removed and your game design is fundamentally broken. But it sounds like the problem is that even people who don't enjoy them do them because they are compelled to.

I feel compelled to say that no scenarios does not equal more RvR. I can flick that scenario switch, go and do other things, then choose if I want to take part in a scenario that pops. RvR requires me to patrol a zone that is pretty much empty just in case some enemy are lurking there - this may reflect the boredom of war, but I'm not paying $15 a month for that particular privilege.

That the whole "duh how bout we take out scenarios that'll fix things" line even came up and has gained traction shows how much Mythic is scrambling to work out what to do.

[Simond]

WAR is going to trail off into numbers lower than peak EQ1 and WoW shall be bestride the world as a colossus more than ever. And deep in our bitter little hearts we'll be glad that WoW is around, because without it the most successful game in Western MMO history would still be a ten year old relic that really only succeeded to that extent on a fluke.

...and the ten year old relic is still a better game than DAoC. 

[Sahrokh]

What I really like about this whole thread, and the cross-border incursions that the WHA forumites (including the normal hu-mans, starfuckers and manifesto writers) pretty much agree with the f13 crowd in terms of what they want out of the game, how fucked the pre-release supernerfs were, the lack of official forums and so on and on, yet MJ still keeps talking about scenario-free servers, not alienating WoW players and how everything else needs to be superslowgradual but is coming soon

What I find peculiar is how MJ sounds like not liking the feedback and thus leaving a forum for the next, where he hopes to convince anyone again.
Guess what, all those no life forum posters like me, are throwing stones at MJ because they want WAR to succeed not because of some odd hate.

What about suggesting a no scenario server, when the real issue is that the current open RvR implementation just does not cut it?
Forget the scenarios for a second. What would happen if all we had were outdoor RvR? Would it suddenly make RvR exp less pathetic? Would the acquired drops suck somewhat less (I got +melee damage and +melee crit on my class tagged gear... and am a Sorceress)? Would conquering and keeping a castle suddenly bring some "plus" that I have not seen? Because when we got "our" keep, all we really got was an huge hole in our guild budget.

[Beign]

If we didnt have scenarios the game would turn into DAoC.. people would gather at a common area and repeatedly farm each other. (Emain Macha)

A non-scenario server would fail just like all of DAoCs *special* servers. They're always a novel idea, but hardly anyone stays on them. (I.E. DAoC RvR server, PvE server etc)

[shred]

HULK SMASH SHIFT KEY

[Righ]

Look! It's the second coming of e. e. cummings!

[Triforcer]

Anyone have any idea why almost all the newcomers have a name that doesn't start with a capital letter?  Nothing wrong with that, plenty of community members do it, but its strange that almost all the idiots are doing it.

[Nebu]

It's hard work pushing that shift key.

[Venkman]

Anyone have any idea why almost all the newcomers have a name that doesn't start with a capital letter?  Nothing wrong with that, plenty of community members do it, but its strange that almost all the idiots are doing it.

Kids. Anti-establishment behavior. The usual crap.

[Righ]

Its just how the name generator in WHAbot 1.0 works. I hear there's a content patch for it that is going to allow you to choose whether it creates capitalized names or not and which will increase the posting speed from once every 20 seconds to once every 5 seconds.

[Triforcer]

90 guests are viewing this topic right now.  Hi!  Stay for tea!

[Beign]

Anyone have any idea why almost all the newcomers have a name that doesn't start with a capital letter?  Nothing wrong with that, plenty of community members do it, but its strange that almost all the idiots are doing it.

Kids. Anti-establishment behavior. The usual crap.

Dammit... I kenw I should've went with bEiGn

[Vinadil]

It's hard work pushing that shift key.

On a related note, the "a" button stopped working on my home computer.  It is not that it won't work, I just have to press it twice as hard as the other keys, so my "normal" typing force won't cut it.  Just saying, sometimes it IS hard work pressing a certain key.

[Venkman]

Dammit... I kenw I should've went with bEiGn

Wouldn't it be something like 3E1GN or some such?

Side note: I always laugh when I see l33t speak in MMOs because it always feels contrived, like everyone's in on the joke. Meanwhile, in FPS games I do get the sense it's actually how people talk, at least going by the server and player names...

[ashrik]

Specialty and niche servers (in an already niche game) are a bad idea in my book. Specially when so many people feel at a loss for ways to reach out for each other.

I'd like to go on the record as saying that I tried to get a capital A, and was pretty sure I actually did put one in. But I had been drinking my way to illiteracy at the time of my sign up, and cite the confusing placement of my shift key as a direct cause.

[zumbos]

blahblahblahblahimimportantblahblahblah

[Brogarn]

Looking down at my keyboard I notice that there are 2 shift keys on either side of it in convenient locations. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[Kiwoo]

Now in all this time one mod stood out from the rest. Tiggs (yes, I know, we all love Tiggs) firstly from the SWG forums. Was a sad day for them when she "left".

No we don't and no we weren't. Go away.

[Ratman_tf]

Looking down at my keyboard I notice that there are 2 shift keys on either side of it in convenient locations. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

I just pry up my keys and spell out dirty words with the letters. Impresses the hell out of my co-workers.

[reaper_9782]

EXCUSE ME

CAN SOMEONE ALERT KOTAKU

IT SEEMS ALL THE SHIFT KEYS HAVE RUN AWAY

[Nevermore]

Anyone have any idea why almost all the newcomers have a name that doesn't start with a capital letter?  Nothing wrong with that, plenty of community members do it, but its strange that almost all the idiots are doing it.

Kids. Anti-establishment behavior. The usual crap.

Dammit... I kenw I should've went with bEiGn

Oh, you were so close!  This is like that Japanese obstacle course show (Viking?).  You almost got to the end, but then came the epic faceplant.

I'd have posted this on the denned thread, but I'm not awesome enough to be able to post there. ;_;

[fua_9782]

Read the fucking stickies, douchebag.

[HaemishM]

That smiley is so win.

[McSteak]

so why does my post get erased, then my account deleted? looks like schild has too much fun on here. you can ban me again if you want i suppose, you're just composte heap any goddamn way. ill just keep on comin back too if i so desire.

I noticed you're gangsta.


I'm pretty gangsta myself.

[Lum]

...and the ten year old relic is still a better game than DAoC. 

Yeah, that PvP in EQ is AWESOME. (glare)

[Yoru]

Oh, you were so close!  This is like that Japanese obstacle course show (Viking?).  You almost got to the end, but then came the epic faceplant.

Eric Schild Presents... Takeshi's Castle - F13 Edition.

[fuser]

General Schild?

[STICKIES_9782]

Read the fucking stickies, douchebag.

fail

[Slayerik]

IP Ban in .... 3...2...1...

[HaemishM]

Read the fucking stickies, douchebag.

lol fuck you

Your eloquence has moved me.

[raydeen]

IP Ban in .... 3...2...1...

I'm surprised it's taken this long. It's like /b/ and Digg got togethor, had a few cocktails, forgot the condoms, had some babbys and the babbys found their way into our dark corner of the cyberverse. What the babbys doen't realize is that there are grues lurking in the darkness...

[schild]

What the fuck are babbys?

[raydeen]

What the fuck are babbys?

http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf

Edit: I was going for teh funny. Sometimes I hit. Mostly I miss.

[schild]

So awesome.

[Paelos]

What the fuck are babbys?

http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf

Edit: I was going for teh funny. Sometimes I hit. Mostly I miss.

Ah, internet cavemen make everything funny.