State of The Game - Mark Jacobs

[Lantyssa]

- Crafting being overly complicated and annoying You tried a little bit to fix this with seed drop rates but came at it wrong - the problem wasn't how much they dropped, the problem was there are far, far too many different kinds that didn't stack with each other. Get rid of all the adjectives like 'wispy/hairy/horny beardweed seed' and just have beardweed seeds. Same for potions while you're at it. If an initiate's healing potion heals 300, and a healing potion heals 300, then nothing is being added to the game by having those names being different other than making it so they don't stack. That is an irritant, and when you put enough irritants together you lose players just as much or more than you do from Big Issues.

A design philosophy I've advocated since my MUD days.  The big stuff is important, but lots of little irritants do add up, and are often much easier to fix.

Specifically on the seeds we agree.  Sjofn and I already had that discussion, but it's worth pointing out again.

[Righ]

I don't know how many of you have made it into Tier 4 yet, but you may not be aware of the potential issues regarding zone capture.

Of course you don't know. You registered for this forum and posted five minutes later. It has been discussed.

This will be entertaining when multiplied 50,000 times.

[Micow]

I don't know how many of you have made it into Tier 4 yet, but you may not be aware of the potential issues regarding zone capture.

Of course you don't know. You registered for this forum and posted five minutes later. It has been discussed.

This will be entertaining when multiplied 50,000 times.

I've read through this thread, and I haven't seen zone control even brought up once. Hades made a different thread on the issue, but it was while I was typing my post.

[schild]

We discussed that at length in at least 3 threads through 2 forums you can see and possibly one you can't.

[Paelos]

I'm pretty sure anybody who makes their first post in this thread should be horsewhipped, but it seems that plan is well underway.

[d4rkj3di]

Wait, IainC got fired?

No.
And that's the only comment I can make on the subject.

That's the only one you needed to make. Glad to hear it.

On topic:

Not that schild needs his balls cupped anymore in this thread, but pretty much everything he is saying here is well-thought out and frantically typed. I don't bother at all with any ORvR keep defense or attacks because the former gives no reward at all and the latter makes me roll against 20-40 other people for a poorly itemized chest piece, IF THE GOLD BAG EVEN SHOWS UP. If my chances for that crappy set piece were upped to a 1 in 4 chance I would definitely get one, I might reconsider. Read that as if I do damage to the Keep Lord and he dies, I am not rolling against anyone but the "house". If I get a 75 or higher on my 1-100 roll, there will be a set piece inside the PQ chest with my name on it.

While we still seem to have some of Mark's attention let me add that adding a /level command like the one found in DAOC would lessen the amount of eye-bleeding involved with trying another class. Granted, DAOC is 50 levels vice WAR's 40, so the /level should give R18 instead of 20 perhaps? That would put you at the Tier 2 rank that no longer needs bolstering. Just a thought.

[Dessad]

I can appreciate Mark's situation, and I do hope Mythic can turn the game around (the RvR 'side' of things, anyway)--but, for the love of god, why does he have to use the phrase "In terms of ..." in every other paragraph?  I thought only pseudo-intellectuals, politicians, and wannabe 'news people' use this clumsy, idiotic phrase (as a substitue for the phrase "with regard to") to make themselves appear more intelligent.  Doesn't anyone freakin' read any more?

[Slayerik]

I wish some of the new guys would at least take the time to throw in some bouncing boob anime pic (which I got ragged on about on wTo), a generic Bruce Campbell pic (always a winner), or pic of their character already! Show some effort! Out of the hundred guys that register, a couple will stick around and maybe in 3 years I'll get in an argument with one and quote their join date as the day they were liberated from ze Vault!

I think Schild is loving this.

Maybe I'm demented but I think I would be.

[waylander]

I think Schild is loving this.

I've been laughing pretty hard this afternoon as they come in here, post long novels thinking to educate us all, and then see them listed as a "guest" with their post deleted. This isn't the vault where you come in here, bypass the first 9 pages of the thread and then rehash the whole conversation in an attempt to enlighten us all.

[Kirth]

This is how Schild is working out his hate after grinding Tor Anroc for a weekend. 

I'll say it again as well, being able to read these forums at work and not be able to post is a kinda private hell I must have done something bad in a previous life to deserve. Considering I get up way before anyone else and saw the dawn of this.

[Venkman]

Dude, I share your pain. I'm often relegated to reading this forum on my iPod Touch, which is fine for reading but sucky for posting (I mostly type a huge screed and then edit the heck out of it before posting... and then screwing that up anyway). So for most of the weekend I was stuck just reading this flaming ball of flames (and balls) grow. I was getting the shakes...

[Arthur_Parker]

While we still seem to have some of Mark's attention let me add that adding a /level command like the one found in DAOC would lessen the amount of eye-bleeding involved with trying another class. Granted, DAOC is 50 levels vice WAR's 40, so the /level should give R18 instead of 20 perhaps? That would put you at the Tier 2 rank that no longer needs bolstering. Just a thought.

The problem with doing that is you want T1 players, T1 battlegrounds are fun, plus you don't want new players to login to see a ghost town either.  I fully agree alts are very important, if you look at long time WoW players they have several max level characters.  I think a lot of the PVE grind complaints would disappear for WAR if they vastly increased the exp/rr rewards for open RVR and also doubled exp for alts once you had one character at T4, or even rank 40. 

The way it is at the minute, I'm going to have a max level Witch hunter, but I dread starting an alt, that's a shame because I'd love to play a Warrior Priest or an Iron breaker.

[Kirth]

It continues:

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159953

Apparently this is a terrible no-name forum.

Edit - I didn't read down:

I'm upset because Mark is actually having dialogue with people (mainly the site's admin Schild). It's crazy, look at what kind of dialogue he is having with this guy, and HE'S TAKING IT ALL VERY SERIOUSLY. Our game is being directly influenced by a minority of jerks like this guy Schild that runs that forum.

[d4rkj3di]

The problem with doing that is you want T1 players, T1 battlegrounds are fun, plus you don't want new players to login to see a ghost town either.  I fully agree alts are very important, if you look at long time WoW players they have several max level characters.  I think a lot of the PVE grind complaints would disappear for WAR if they vastly increased the exp/rr rewards for open RVR and also doubled exp for alts once you had one character at T4, or even rank 40. 

The way it is at the minute, I'm going to have a max level Witch hunter, but I dread starting an alt, that's a shame because I'd love to play a Warrior Priest or an Iron breaker.

Thinking in DAOC terms did make me forget that T1 would be completely bypassed. Faster XP for chars on accounts with a max rank character already would work as well, although I'm not sure how difficult that kind of coding would be.

[schild]

lol

Hey, d4rkj3di, I need that I AM VERY IMPORTANT ON THE INTERNET picture.

[Pennilenko]

It continues:

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159953

Apparently this is a terrible no-name forum.

Edit - I didn't read down:

I'm upset because Mark is actually having dialogue with people (mainly the site's admin Schild). It's crazy, look at what kind of dialogue he is having with this guy, and HE'S TAKING IT ALL VERY SERIOUSLY. Our game is being directly influenced by a minority of jerks like this guy Schild that runs that forum.

Schild isn't a jerk.

[Sjofn]

I feel bad for the new posters, just because I entirely understand the desperate "Oh God he actually read that thread IT MAY BE MY ONLY CHANCE" thinking. I can't say I wouldn't have done the same during my DAoC days. One could argue I DID do the same in this very thread. 

[schild]

[Tarami]

That picture fits for so many people I've come to know over recent years. It's a wonderful picture.

[Lum]

Sorry guys, I went to lunch.

If you had an iPhone, you could mod your forums while eating.

[schild]

I don't bring my phone on lunch. Getting an Android on Wednesday!!!!

[Calandryll]

I don't bring my phone on lunch. Getting an Android on Wednesday!!!!

:(

[gratte]

Allrite im the guy with the "retarded" name, as if itchees meant crabs or whatever you thought it meant.

Lets see now if it was my post that made you delete it, or my name. By the way, yes its a wall of text, but no its not "starfucking" or "stalking" and i had valid point to make that by tracking dev postings that are pertinent to the game and arent officially published, this is hardly "stalking" but this comment dissapeared as well. My post is not OMG GUYS THE GAME SUX0RZ LAWL and ive worked 2 years in a game company. It was a big thread so yeah i got things to say.

So here it is again, take 2

wat happen a thousand words dis a pear

[schild]

Jesus christ. You sir, are a fucking maroon.

[Xuri]

This thread is the best thing since... since... 1925!

[Nija]

Jesus christ. You sir, are a fucking maroon.

Man, the thread my awesome image was in got Denned!

Slog said, "It's like we are being sieged by endless Walls of Text."



The first page worth of hits on google image search has never been so kind.

[DiamondGeezer]

Yeah but the truth is when people write wallo texto like that its saying i love the game but please make it better. 

[schild]

Yeah but the truth is when people write wallo texto like that its saying i love the game but please make it better. 

Actually, no, you just said that in 9 words.

The people posting the Walls of Text:

• Don't get it
• Are psychotic
• Are stalkers
• Definitely don't get it
• ARE IMPORTANT!!

Edit: Look, I'm fine with psychotic posters. I don't really care about walls of text. But f13 is not the place for them. I've made that abundantly clear to pretty much... oh.... everyone. You'd have to be here a long damn time to get away with that shit.

Edit 2: Nothing feels better than pushing 2 buttons and making 30 minutes of work disappear.

[garthilk]

This thread is the best thing since... since... 1925!

It is like the begining of the end of something, or something.

[Slayerik]

Edit 2: Nothing feels better than pushing 2 buttons and making 30 minutes of work disappear.

Forum griefer. 

[Zetla]

At the current state, if there was a "no scenario" server i would reroll to it immediatly, however i wish i wasnt forced to do that to just enjoy RvR. Increasing rewards in RvR would probably help a lot, but youll probably still see majority of players in scenarios because its easy and simple. Alot of the noobs in daoc sat in bridges or keeps waiting for people to come to them, because actually RvRing was too difficult and yielded no good rewards because they couldnt hack it or got zerged down. I honestly dont know if theres any fix for that other than to tell them "tough luck, get better and try harder", but then they will just go back to wow since its extremely noob friendly.

Basically all im saying is that theres no way to please everyone, you just need to please a specific audience. Right now it seems like your trying to please the same audience that WoW is pleasing, and when wrath comes out youll be shit out of luck. The only people staying will be the ones hoping for a real RvR game to come eventually.

[Nija]

Edit 2: Nothing feels better than pushing 2 buttons and making 30 minutes of work disappear.

See, you woulda loved playing UO with Rasix and I!

[Morfiend]

Edit 2: Nothing feels better than pushing 2 buttons and making 30 minutes of work disappear.

See, you woulda loved playing UO with Rasix and I!

Corp Por?

[Signe]

God, sometimes I wish I had a penis. 

[Paelos]

God, sometimes I wish I had a penis. 

Have you spoken with your other half about this?