Sales Numbers

[schild]

Japan - 12/3 through 12/9

Software.
Format: [system] title this week/lifetime

01./02. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 149,587 / 411,000
02./06. [NDS] Mario Party DS (Nintendo) - 106,995 / 646,000
03./00. [NDS] Tales of Innocence (Bandai-Namco) - 104,317 / NEW
04./00. [PSP] Hot Shots Golf Portable 2 (Sony) - 87,231 / NEW
05./01. [NDS] Prof. Layton and Pandora's Box (Level 5) - 75,609 / 370,000
06./04. [NDS] Dragon Quest IV (Square-Enix) - 63,447 / 795,000
07./00. [360] Lost Odyssey (Microsoft) - 54,581 / NEW
08./00. [NDS] Powerful Pro-kun Pocket 10 (Konami) - 54,372 / NEW
09./11. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo) - 44,705 / 476,000
10./09. [WII] Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games (Nintendo) - 44,677 / 148,000

Hardware.

Code:

Hardware - This Week | Last Week |       YTD |        LTD
1. NDS   -   168,267 |   124,627 | 6,446,771 | 20,452,450
2. WII   -   115,057 |    74,764 | 3,140,843 |  4,060,486
3. PSP   -    91,481 |    74,626 | 2,551,681 |  7,083,810
4. PS3   -    38,123 |    37,092 | 1,009,525 |  1,467,083
5. PS2   -    11,987 |    13,703 |   708,193 | 20,863,052
6. 360   -     8,876 |     6,632 |   217,866 |    482,568
7. GBA   -       114 |        33 |    50,394 | 15,348,473
8. NGC   -        46 |        32 |    10,463 |  4,179,931

America - For November. This shit is pretty self-explanatory.

Hardware.

PlayStation 2 496K
PlayStation 3 466K
PSP 567K
Xbox 360 770K
Wii 981K
Nintendo DS 1.53 million

Software

360 CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE ACTIVISION (CORP) NOV 2007 MATURE (M) 1 1.57 million
WII SUPER MARIO GALAXY NINTENDO OF AMERICA NOV 2007 EVERYONE (E) 2 1.12 million
360 ASSASSIN'S CREED UBISOFT NOV 2007 MATURE (M) 3 980K
PS2 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK ACTIVISION (CORP) OCT 2007 TEEN (T) 4 967K
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA FEB 2007 EVERYONE (E) 5 564K
360 MASS EFFECT MICROSOFT (CORP) NOV 2007 MATURE (M) 6 473K
PS3 CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE ACTIVISION (CORP) NOV 2007 MATURE (M) 7 444K
WII GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK ACTIVISION (CORP) OCT 2007 TEEN (T) 8 426K
360 HALO 3 MICROSOFT (CORP) SEP 2007 MATURE (M) 9 387K
PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED UBISOFT NOV 2007 MATURE (M) 10 377K

[stray]

Wow, both versions of AC make the top 10, but no Uncharted. :\

[schild]

Some observations.

Japan:
Wii Fit doing under 500k in 10 days is pretty shocking. Shows how few mothers own the Wii in Japan. This shit will be huge in America.
Not a great opening for Hot Shots 2 in Japan. Great game, normally tracks better.
Professor Layton is still doing great. God bless Level-5.
Mario Galaxy is a dismal failure in Japan. Though, it'll have legs.
Hardware numbers, once again, prove how unimportant Japan is these days.

America:
Wii still selling like furbies which leads to the crap attach rate (for a new console).
Tie in numbers were revealed with the Wii at 3.86 per console, which is... the same number of major Nintendo Games if you count Wii Play as .86. Particularly since everyone bought that piece of shit for a controller. Wii Sports is not counted since it was bundled in the US.
The PS3 has a higher tie-in ratio than the Wii (lol) at just over 4 games. What 4 games? Who knows, Uncharted didn't even chart.
XBox 360 has just under 7 tie-in ratio. Which is fantastic. But if XBLA arcade counts, this number shant be trusted (that goes for the PS3 also).
Call of Duty 4 is a goddamn monster.
Mario Galaxy, hot and not hot. It's fucking mario! It got beat out by a third party shooter!
Playstation Family still a slowly rising gold mine.

[stray]

Hmm, 3rd parties are kicking ass. That's all I can see from this.

I guess it's a good thing.

[Trippy]

Some observations.

Japan:
Wii Fit doing under 500k in 10 days is pretty shocking. Shows how few mothers own the Wii in Japan.

Japanese mothers aren't fat.

This shit will be huge in America.

Yes.

[Riggswolfe]

The main things I got from this:

Who cares about the Japanese? They buy stupid shit.
Americans need to get over shooter sequels and try some other games out for Christ's sake. Call of Duty 4 beat Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect? Jesus.

[Wolf]

That's only 10 days of Mass Effect, as it came out on the 20th. The same thing goes for Uncharted. Bioware already said they broke a million earlier this month (iirc).

btw, pretty picture on the US sales, for those who don't want to fight the quoted text - here

edit: I want fucking EU numbers. No one knows where we're at.
edit194745: I keep adding shit in this post :P

[Soukyan]

Americans need to get over shooter sequels and try some other games out for Christ's sake. Call of Duty 4 beat Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect? Jesus.

/agree

As for the Playstation franchise being a slowly rising goldmine, I suppose that's true, but any behemoth that sits around for a long time (see: Microsoft) can manage to amass money at a trickle pace. This is not acceptable in the technology field. Give me some risky ventures and some fun new technology. Fuck Sony.

[DraconianOne]

Graphs please.

[schild]

Sony doesn't have fun new technology? What?

Microsoft is the only company this gen with absolutely zero innovation. In fact they're bringing back MULTI disc games. I don't mean 2 or 3. I mean 4 discs. They don't allow hard drive downloads. The cap on XBLA is just stupid (though I think it's going to get lifted... again). The only innovation was XBox downloads. Which came a year after Sony had PS1 downloads (and PS2 ones are coming as soon as the PS2 finally dies).

Also, America got over Halo really really fast. Is that not good enough? Call of Duty 4 is fucking amazing. Like as good as Valve shit.

[SnakeCharmer]

Call of Duty 4 is fucking amazing. Like as good as Valve shit.

This.

And whilst CoD4 is (to quote Azazel (sorry if I butchered your name)) more an entertainment experience in SP mode, nevertheless, it's an amazing experience.

CoD4 is the first game I've ever had such a strong emotional attachment to during and after the game was over.  I don't think I'm alone in that statement.

[Soukyan]

I should clarify. CoD4 looks like an amazing game. I just dislike Sony. That is all. Carry on with the previously scheduled discussion.

[stray]

Please don't say you dislike Sony because of SOE -- which has fuckall to do with the Playstation. Red headed stepchild, that is. SCE, on the other hand -- totally different story. I'd go so far as to say that they're the most impressive publisher/developer around -- by an enormous margin.

[schild]

SOE is owned by Sony Pictures. They have nothing to do with SCEA. At all.

[Soukyan]

Please don't say you dislike Sony because of SOE -- which has fuckall to do with the Playstation. Red headed stepchild, that is. SCE, on the other hand -- totally different story. I'd go so far as to say that they're the most impressive publisher/developer around -- by an enormous margin.

I dislike their hardware division. Have for many years now. Not any online or software division.

[schild]

You disliked the PS2? What?

[Soukyan]

You disliked the PS2? What?

Irrelevant.

Back to sales numbers, what's the deal with the PS3. So it's selling at about half the rate of the Wii. Is it gaining some traction because of games or because of the price drop or because of the lack of Wii on the market? I suppose it's probably all three.

[Montague]

You disliked the PS2? What?

Irrelevant.

Back to sales numbers, what's the deal with the PS3. So it's selling at about half the rate of the Wii. Is it gaining some traction because of games or because of the price drop or because of the lack of Wii on the market? I suppose it's probably all three.

What I find interesting is the PS2 is still outselling it, and with a much higher profit margin I'd bet.

[stray]

You disliked the PS2? What?

Irrelevant.

Back to sales numbers, what's the deal with the PS3. So it's selling at about half the rate of the Wii. Is it gaining some traction because of games or because of the price drop or because of the lack of Wii on the market? I suppose it's probably all three.

I doubt it's because of the lack of Wii's. The Wii will still sell more even if there's a lack of them. Sad but true.

I doubt it's attracting the same market too. I mean, at least in my own experience, I can't see that. The only people I know who own one are girls who haven't played games in the past 10 years. Not really the PS3 niche to say the least.

[Murgos]

Most people I know who own a Wii bought it for their kids, not for themselves.  They could care less about which modern console has the most wiz-bang they just wanted to have SOMETHING and the Wii is cheaper.

I know no one off this board who owns a PS3.

[stray]

I know one guy with a PS3, but he's a city away. Also, he only plays Madden.

Some others are finally thinking about it though, because of the price drop.

[Bunk]

My $.02 on the lack of Uncharted on the Charts (   )

The TV campaign for it blows chunks. It just does nothing to make me want to play the game. No catchy music, no cool sweeping cinematics - just a lame cutscene of Han Solo wanabe, followed by mediocre looking run through the jungle shooting stuff footage.

Assassin's Creed (AC means Asheron's Call - fuck off) on the other hand had a brilliant TV campaign, and it paid off.

[stray]

I think that commercial is funny and captures the game well.


Don't tell me to fuck off please -- especially when it's because of Asheron's Call

[Riggswolfe]

I know one guy with a PS3, but he's a city away. Also, he only plays Madden.

Some others are finally thinking about it though, because of the price drop.

My PS3 is slowly gathering dust. However, I suspect when some of the RPGs start hitting it that will change.

[stray]

You should listen to my [friend who only plays Madden] then. He calls just about everything not Madden an RPG.

[HaemishM]

My takeaway from those charts?

Japan really doesn't matter much when compared to the US, because they really do buy different shit.

The Wii version of Guitar Hero outsold the PS3 and 360 versions. Le ha. The PS2 version sold over twice the number of copies, with what 10 times the install base? Le awesome. And even with a significant set of price drops and a shortage of units in the store, the Wii is STILL selling double what the PS3 is and slightly more than the 360, when only 2 of the top 9 (not counting WiiPlay) software titles are Wii titles, one of which is Mario. 

[schild]

Yes, that's what's called a FAD Haemish.

It might as well be called the Wii Sports Box.

Much like the REBox of the last era. Or Smash Box. Whatever flavor you pick.

[stray]

Red Steel sucks.

[HaemishM]

  says "Weak sauce trolls."

[schild]

Actually, Pedobear would say something along the lines of "Haemish plays the Wii because he likes the other people that plays the Wii. Children." But that's only what pedobear would say. No one here would say anything like that.

[Hoax]

I just realized that Uncharted is that Drake's Treasure Hunt game.  Dude that commericial looks like dumbass, that game is supposed to be good?  Rofl.  Dont release a game with such a dumb title right around the time they are advertising another shitty National Treasure movie, they both got instantly filed under: sucks balls xref: Treasure.  There is this .02 scene of him riding a bike blowing up a jeep, it looked so dumb.  I really can't believe that game is supposed to be good, compared to the AC commercials which are jesus on a stick, not to mention the genius of the "our devs have titties" tie-in.

Uncharted:
worse hero then Halo
lame ads Suck.

[schild]

That game, seriously, is one of the best adventure games ever released. It's one of those "not playing it because of the media makes you part of the problem" type games. It's a masterpiece from beginning to end. But hey, if you think the ads suck, oh well, I've never even seen one. And ads don't effect my game purchasing. At all.

[Hoax]

I just read the uncharted thread, I hadn't had a reason up till now to do so.  Wow you guys are all hard over it.  Funny stuff.  For real you should somehow tell them that their marketing dept needs to be fired.  I had no reason to even think twice about that game.  They spent a ton of cash on TV spots (seriously, I have seen the fucking commercial tons of times during football, ufc, etc) which wasn't cheap but I haven't seen much for it on my rare foyers onto other gaming sites.  Also the commercials ARE FUCKING TERRIBLE.  For real, those might be the worst video game ads of the year.

What I thought of Uncharted based on their TV marketing:
-Another console fps, ffs
-What a stupid title, Drakes Gold/Treasure?  The name Drake is annoying.
-Great the lead is a dumbass named Drake who is supposed to be all James Dean cool, that always is fucking lame in video games.
-montage of game footage: diving across bridge with bullets flying by, blowing up jeep with atv mounted missile? swimming while bullets go by, quick shot of jungle terrain.  Why would I play this game?

To recap the ads made me think this was another vanilla console fps, set in the jungle, with a badly named boring omg he's witty treasure hunter as the lead.  Oh lawd it sounded bad to me.  I'm tickled that this is supposedly GOTY material.  What a utter failure by marketing.

I want to say that their ad has a nokia tie in, he's sneaking around and his phone rings and he "says its for you" (lol) and throws it at them and starts shooting.  Fuck that screams brilliant storyline and plotting.  Rofl.  The games industry isn't just amateur hour its a fucking amateur factory. 

[stray]

Really. Not the game to be knocking. Really, really, really, really.

Drake's Fortune. As in Francis Drake. You find a treasure map of El Dorado that Francis Drake left.

Assassin's Creed is OK, but it isn't even worthy to smell Uncharted's shit. If it did shit. Which it doesn't.

[Soukyan]

Yes, that's what's called a FAD Haemish.

It might as well be called the Wii Sports Box.

Much like the REBox of the last era. Or Smash Box. Whatever flavor you pick.

Wait wait. In an industry that turns around consoles every how many years, the Wii is a fad? I know it hasn't been terribly long, but if you go by that logic, then each generation's leader is just a fad. Come now. Nintendo had a winner this go around. So the hardware is weak compared to the other two. That's irrelevant. What is relevant is sales, revenue, and profit. Sony had to slash prices to get to half the sales of the Wii. Microsoft is still repairing/replacing 360s left and right (which they should be doing), and Nintendo is what? Selling like hotcakes and on the basis of a handful of games. Bravo. Way to capitalize on an untapped market.

I had this discussion with several people I know who each own two or all three of the consoles. They are all pretty big gamers. The point here is that, while you may be a hardcore gamer and may scoff at the lousy hardware or the "juvenile" looking games on Nintendo, it does not do away with the fact that they made a killer product. Each of them digressed into bitching about the games and the graphics. But that is irrelevant to sales numbers. Sure, the PS3 will possibly catch up or will eventually gain quite a bit, but that will be due to more game sales targetted at a smaller market subset of gamers who spend more money than the average joe on games.

PS3 is targetted at the young, male, hardcore game geek. The Wii is not. Nintendo was smart to do what they did because it opens up a new market to the world of gaming and can drive sales of their other hardware (DS) and games. PS3 wasn't foolish in its target audience, it is just on a slower return on investment curve.