eldaec
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With all these 1M+ subs predictions, just keep in mind that WoW only achieved about 3M western subs after however many years, and honestly, Star Wars is not a helpful IP for a huge portion of that 3M. It'll guarantee 2M box sales, but will also make a significant number of the WoW people believe the game is 'not for them'. As for the more important parts of the world, Bioware rpgs don't sell like crazy in Asia.
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VainEldritch
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No more of that, mister.
They've already dropped 1.5mil preorders, according to something or other I read. I'll go 4mil boxes, 1mil subs after three months. It may not be so easy to guestimate, since it appears that they ae limiting the initial release to 50% of the world. Truth is, I'm really hoping this goes cosmic. It may not and yet my visits to the cake shop to pig-out failed to persuade me otherwise. I think retention will be helped by the story approach and the staggered release to other territories will tilt churn in BW's favor and avert shock headlines like "SWTOR subs plummet after 3 months!". I think SWTOR will be big, really big - and I hope it deserves to be.
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Paelos
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SWTOR will crush WoW!
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01101010
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Mosesandstick
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I thought f13 was full of cynics. I think box sales will do well but subs will fall off quickly after a while.
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fuser
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Canada Gamestop has the regular edition on for $39.99 (god know's if you get it for that price).
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Merusk
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I thought f13 was full of cynics. I think box sales will do well but subs will fall off quickly after a while.
Even the cynic has an inner child. For a lot of 30-somethings that inner child wants a fucking laszer sward or koo spaseship unna ray gun.
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sam, an eggplant
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I'll go 4mil boxes, 1mil subs after three months. 4 million boxes at 138GB apiece is five hundred thirty-nine terabytes of disk space! Weesa gonna haveta invest in seagate-a and westerna digital-a!
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eldaec
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Your maths is off.
138 Gigabytes x 4 milllion is 539 Petabytes.
Increasing at a rate of 80 Petabytes for each 20Gb patch, reaching 1 Exabyte after around 6 months.
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Lucas
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Further proof that Italians have suspect taste in games.
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sam, an eggplant
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You're right, it's five hundred thirty-nine thousand terabytes!
That's just over 22 million 25GB canadian bandwidth caps!
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Merusk
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Now figure how much money AT&T would make on that client given a home-user cap of 150gb/month a subscriber base of 300k, an average pre-download usage rate of 70gb/month and penalties of $10/50gb over the limit.
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Morat20
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I really need a new PC. I'm going to be stuck here reading about people playing it.
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Modern Angel
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I thought f13 was full of cynics. I think box sales will do well but subs will fall off quickly after a while.
I'm totally cynical. I just think that there are very few more dedicated, eat whatever shit comes their way regardless of quality fanbases than Lucas'. Let me put it this way, because nothing about the following breaks the NDA: I am in the beta. I am not planning on pre-ordering. I still think it will get @ 1mil subs.
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sam, an eggplant
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I'm in the beta too, and I did pre-order. So there.
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Mosesandstick
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I didn't know we could do that.
I'm in as well. No pre-order.
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Surlyboi
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The OSX compatibility makes me kinda skeered, I fear for my productivity. Luckily the nvidia 320M is probably way to wimpy for real gaming.
I'm in beta. pre-ordered the CE. And Modern Angel was the one that told us it was 138 gigabeezles, so... yeah. Radeon HD 6750M should eat it for lunch.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Modern Angel
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You can say whether or not you're in the beta. That's basically it. Everything else is locked down. Obviously if I said WHY I'm not preordering, that would be different. EDIT: I said that before I got in and was relating what a friend told me. My friend was wrong, I was wrong for conveying it. An admission of being wrong is better than about 95% of f13 posters would give you.
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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I didn't know we could do that.
I'm in as well. No pre-order.
No droid class, NO BETA! /chant
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Preordering SWTOR is like banging the easy chubby chick down the street. You tell everybody you're not gonna do it but deep down you know you will, and you just hope nobody you know finds out.
I'm going to tweet how hard I'm hitting that /fake edit - with wua's dick
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Fordel
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Canada Gamestop has the regular edition on for $39.99 (god know's if you get it for that price). It's already changed it looks like. 59.99
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Simond
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I still predict a grand gnashing of teeth from all of ya when Origin starts selling your info and otherwise violates your privacy in a way only EA could do. Hahaha you mean 'Activision'. right?
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Modern Angel
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That... is awesome.
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Merusk
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Best Buy knows American consumer habits. They'd let you 6mo finance a $7.99 CD if they could be certain people wouldn't just pay it off at the end. BB also likes to take way more preorders for things than they can actually ship. Amazon used to be guilty of that as well. (He said, testily remembering the Burning Crusade debacle.) Ed: I love that games still get the "Will this have a monthly fee??" question in the top questions on Amazon.
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luckton
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Everytime you finance something with the BB, they make money. It's actually a goal that they hold associates to everyday to try and get as many "Branded Payments" as possible. They sweeten the deal now by giving you bonus member's points if you make said branded payment and then pay it off within a month. I suppose if you go/buy often enough, you could get some good discounts, but it does boil down to another scheme. Besides, BB is the only place you can 36 month financing on an $1100 HDMI cable
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Surlyboi
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Ed: I love that games still get the "Will this have a monthly fee??" question in the top questions on Amazon.
Yeah, I'm always tempted to post a "Yes, much like your mom." reply to those. But then I remember I only feel like I'm 12.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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tmp
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I'd imagine that's a given for any class. The alternative would probably generate enough tears to extinguish the Sun.
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Evildrider
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Well the ability to change appearance is new, as well as them adding the ability to change the AI of the characters like in Dragon Age 2.
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luckton
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Jebus...900+ voice actors and 2+ years of recording...I can see why they'd want to charge $60+ right off the bat
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"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."
"Tuning me out doesn't magically change the design or implementation of said design. Though, that'd be neat if it did." -schild
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tmp
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Well the ability to change appearance is new, as well as them adding the ability to change the AI of the characters like in Dragon Age 2.
Well, aside from the skin colour the customization on this level was in DAO and ME. I'm happy they're going to have it in SWTOR too though, the more limiting way they went about it in ME2/DA2 was... well, limiting.
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Miasma
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Could someone remind me which retailer screwed up an MMO launch a year or two ago (I forget which game even) by selling more preorders for the collector's edition than they were actually due to receive, screwing a bunch of people? If I get the swtor CE I want to avoid them.
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Hawkbit
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I know for a fact that Best Buy oversells. They'll keep selling anything as long as they get preorders. Don't matter if they actually get any in stock or not.
Also, it would be silly for them not to sell extra CEs... it's pure cash. It's not like my WoW 1.0 CE is worth anything as a collector's now that it's open.
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Nonentity
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Apparently tying a pre-order key to an account makes a new Origin account.
My email account on my SWTOR account was separate than my Origin account.
I now have two Origin accounts. One with everything I've ever done with EA and one with SWTOR.
Fuck.
That.
Shit.
I'm banging at the doors of the "site down" message EA site to make them consolidate my goddamn accounts.
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But that Captain's salami tray was tight, yo. You plump for the roast pork loin, dogg?
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