Lakov_Sanite
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So it can have the same....
outfits equipment vehicles ghosts(slimer) character archetypes basic plot elements
and be it's own completely original movie. Gotcha.
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pxib
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Like I said in the other thread: The plot of the first movie all but explicitly stated that the Ghostbusters are only necessary during extremely rare events which threaten the fabric of reality. Even then, they're dangerous and destructive. All the humor springs from the fact that the characters are either too jaded, too eager, too intellectual, or too sarcastic to realize how insane they are... and from their awkward interactions with sane people. It's basically a better version of Ace Ventura: Pet Detective. In the second film the characters have come to realize how insane they are, and though it's enjoyable and hits a bunch of familiar notes, the self-awareness weakens the humor.
The only way to do the series justice in a third film would be to have (as the rumors are implying) a group of new Ghostbusters, every bit as crazy and naive as the original cast was in the first film. Heck, they're probably fans of the originals... who have now spent decades in their painfully normal, everyday, unghostbusterly lives. These new folks realize the fabric of reality is genuinely threatened, decide they're in over their heads, and start to seek out the old team WHO DO NOT BELIEVE THEM, and play the role that the sane folks played in the original: "At best you're confused, at worst this is a money-making hoax. Do you have any idea how dangerous it is to carry a partical accellerator on your back? This sort of thing doesn't happen anymore. We should know."
Then, of course, (like the Mayor in the first film) they get convinced somehow and everybody teams up and saves the day.
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So it can have the same....
outfits equipment vehicles ghosts(slimer) character archetypes basic plot elements
and be it's own completely original movie. Gotcha.
See above. Try sounding out the words slowly to see if that helps. We're rooting for you.
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01101010
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So it can have the same....
outfits equipment vehicles ghosts(slimer) character archetypes basic plot elements
and be it's own completely original movie. Gotcha.
See above. Try sounding out the words slowly to see if that helps. We're rooting for you.
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Margalis
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My ideal plot is that the events of GB 1 and 2 are cannon, and that after those incidents a bunch of Ghostbusters franchises spring up. But then there are no more ghost for like 20 years, so those franchises go out of business or just become glorified exterminators and such. These NY Ghostbusters are the only people left who still take the job seriously, so then when ghosts re-appear they are happy to spring into action but have no experience fighting ghosts and have no idea WTF they are doing.
Hollywood I'm available!
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Venkman
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It depends on the story. If the present-day Ghostbusters are a down and out outfit cause there haven't been any ghosts to deal with for a long time I can see them needing to drive around an old vehicle.
That was kinda how GB 2 kicked off. I blame the PR behind this movie so far. They haven't given anything fresh. All the images they post seem to result in the same reaction. They'd be better off shutting the heck up until a real trailer came out. Kinda like a few MMOs back when those were a thing
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Sir T
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Maybe they are going to offer early access tickets to the movie and are trying to drum up interest.
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shiznitz
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Trailer is discoverable but I thought it was so bad I really don't want to link to it.
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Ironwood
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Yeah, they dropped the ball on that one. Hope it's not indicative of the actual film or....
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schild
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Trailer is discoverable but I thought it was so bad I really don't want to link to it.
With an endorsement like that, obviously I had to go watch it. This whole "all female ghostbusters" thing was a throw away comment like a year ago.
That it materialized is just fucking depressing. None of those girls stack up to any member of the original cast. To that point, no recast would stack up to the original cast.
What a disaster.
Yup
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Fabricated
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This looks insanely fucking bad.
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"but spy was so good"
fuck you, whoever
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shiznitz
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Every joke was a feminine cliche and the ghosts looked lame, somehow over-CGIed.
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I have never played WoW.
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schild
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The ghosts look like they came out of a Double Fine production. Like they just never went through that last pass of realism because the skillsets of the people involved didn't match the task at hand.
Also, fuck the cliche part, every joke was bad. Bad.
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Like there are going to be retarded people who defend this just because of it being an all-female reboot when really it's about as insulting as you can get to its cast.
Leslie Jones seems to have literally be cast as "Fat Sassy Black Lady". Normally this offends the shit out of people but here it'll be like, "Ahahaha she said 'aw hell naw' to the ghost"
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Ironwood
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I still hold out hope that bad trailer is bad.
Ah well.
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Merusk
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It was mediocre at best, which is disappointing. They should stop being cagey about if it's a reboot or a sequel, too. Since it looks like a reboot from the trailer I'm just not that interested. The original worked for the time and captured a lot of the 80s'. This captures the 10's in being a desperate grab for money by a creatively bankrupt industry run by beancounters.
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HaemishM
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Jesus Christ that trailer was fucking awful. I didn't even snicker, not once. Why did the blonde with the weird glasses have only one line in the whole thing? And yes, the "AH HELL NAW" line was just cringeworthy - it's not like we haven't seen that exact fucking line from black actors for years used in the exact same way in all sorts of movies. It stops being funny after a while and starts to border on "black dude is going to be the first one to die in this horror/action movie." It's like T-Dog 3.0 bad.
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I probably mentioned it before, but Melissa McCarthy is a one trick pony whose shelf life expired a couple of years ago. Can't wait to not see this.
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Soln
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I'd rather see Gods of Egypt. Actually, I'd probably pay money not to see it (or that trailer again).
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Well it will do rather well at the Razzies though... they got that going for them? No?
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Ironwood
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Interesting. Showed the trailer when I got home and Mrs and Kid loved it.
So they'll be going without me.
It's all worked out wonderfully !
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A few of my friends, who I thought had better taste, have expressed glee and excitement on Facebook at that trailer. You think you know someone...
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Khaldun
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I don't have the same "this can't be good" feeling as many of you but...that trailer is not good. I think maybe nobody's fully getting why the first film, which is actually pretty damn uneven, worked at all. Basically without Murray I don't think the first film is really much to speak of--he is the necessary ingredient. I don't feel like there's anything in that trailer that has that same sense of sardonic self-awareness or intelligence about the whole thing, and most of the rest of it is a set of bad "female" (or "female black") jokes, which I would kind of hope all the people who think it's a big achievement to have female Ghostbusters will not welcome. It really feels kind of meh in every way.
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It looks like an Adam Sandler version of Ghostbusters.
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Rendakor
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I watched the trailer and thought it looked shit. Wife walked in halfway through and thought it looked funny. So of course, we're going to see it.
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angry.bob
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and most of the rest of it is a set of bad "female" (or "female black") jokes, which I would kind of hope all the people who think it's a big achievement to have female Ghostbusters will not welcome.
The all female ghostbusters is exactly why they will find a way to excuse and defend them, no matter how hard they have twist to do it. It'll be like when the very same people turned around and started blaming European women for getting sexually assaulted. That said, this pretty much sums up my feelings.
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I will enjoy watching retarded "progressive" people attempt to defend a movie where the black female main cast member got typecast into being the sassy black lady who is the only one of the 4 main cast to not be educated and works a blue collar job.
Also when she says "AW HELL NAW" and "SHIEEEEEEEEEEET" at ghosts and does stereotypical shrieky black-woman shtick.
"i sho don' know nuffin bout no sciience n' shit but i knows new yawk honey Mmmmm Hmmmmm!"
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The ghosts remind me of the monsters from the live-action Scooby Doo films. I will enjoy watching retarded "progressive" people attempt to defend a movie where the black female main cast member got typecast into being the sassy black lady who is the only one of the 4 main cast to not be educated and works a blue collar job.
Also when she says "AW HELL NAW" and "SHIEEEEEEEEEEET" at ghosts and does stereotypical shrieky black-woman shtick.
"i sho don' know nuffin bout no sciience n' shit but i knows new yawk honey Mmmmm Hmmmmm!"
That was Winston's schtick in the first movie, too. "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say"
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That was Winston's schtick in the first movie, too. "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say"
In the original script, as I understand it, Winston was actually the main character, explaining stuff to him was going to be the excuse for exposition to the audience, a paranormal movie with science and a little humor. Then they decided to dial down the science to 1 and the humor up to 11, and Winston wound up the straight man to Murray, Ackroyd, and Ramis. Actually, Winston is the only major character who never does or says anything stupid (besides keep following the other three into stupid situations). --Dave
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Yeah, I never felt like Winston was a "black" character.
Thanks for shitting on my childhood again, fuckwits.
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Evildrider
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No matter what we think this will make money. Anyone not old enough to remember watching the original when it came out doesn't give a crap if it's a reboot.
I wasn't planning on seeing this in theaters and that trailer didn't change my mind. Also for those those complaining about Leslie Jones. That's pretty much her stand-up style, so it's no surprise that's how the character is in the movie.
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Margalis
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Yeah it looks bad. The jokes just seem lazy - an exorcist gag, "AW HELL NAW", etc. They chose the single most obvious joke for each scenario - "that's gonna eave a mark", really? It's like they shot all the scenes with no sound then just ADR'd in the first thing that came to mind. One of the best things about the original movie is how specific some of the humor is, such as in the opening scene, rather than stock gags and familiar one-liners.
Also looked like too much bad CG shit.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Shannow
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Holy crap that's bad.
So is Kate Mckinnon trying to be Bill Murray? Whatever she's doing it comes off as one of those really bad SNL skits we get every episode.
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angry.bob
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Online articles about how to discuss the trailer and explain to them why they're wrong are starting to appear.
You'll never guess why you are all wrong for not liking this, and what is behind it.
Okay, you probably all know why you're allegedly wrong and what's causing it due to the massive gloat boner showing through my text.
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