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Reply #1575 on: June 13, 2012, 11:27:49 AM

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Reply #1576 on: June 13, 2012, 11:36:33 AM

Every other board were this show is discussed has some standard rules, we are basically just winging it here and some people are assuming we are all book readers.

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Reply #1577 on: June 13, 2012, 11:37:16 AM

Why would you not spoiler that?

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Reply #1578 on: June 13, 2012, 11:39:10 AM

To be honest, I worry less about explaining it to the audience and more about the logic as seen by the characters.

I mean, they have no fucking idea what went on either.  Why the fuck did they run ?


In the book the dreams were having a much greater influence on Bran than in the series. That combined with the 2 missing character's influence made Bran's decision to head north and find the 3 eyed crow much more reasonable. Bran sees this as his salvation from being a cripple.

Hmmm.  OK.

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Reply #1579 on: June 13, 2012, 05:34:48 PM

Ya I'm kind of curious why the complaint about my post in spoiler tags. If you're reading something labled spoiler I really think it should come as no surprise if it's a spoiler. Please someone explain the rules for spoilers in this thread.


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Reply #1580 on: June 13, 2012, 09:51:35 PM

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Reply #1581 on: June 14, 2012, 12:00:49 AM

Ya I'm kind of curious why the complaint about my post in spoiler tags. If you're reading something labled spoiler I really think it should come as no surprise if it's a spoiler. Please someone explain the rules for spoilers in this thread.

You forgot the spoiler tags, Rasix edited it to add them.


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Reply #1582 on: June 14, 2012, 01:15:13 AM

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Reply #1583 on: June 15, 2012, 07:44:08 PM

Ya I'm kind of curious why the complaint about my post in spoiler tags. If you're reading something labled spoiler I really think it should come as no surprise if it's a spoiler. Please someone explain the rules for spoilers in this thread.

You forgot the spoiler tags, Rasix edited it to add them.




Ah crap I must have mucked it up then cause I thought I put in spoiler tags.
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Reply #1584 on: June 16, 2012, 10:01:43 AM

So I only just watched this. Caught the second season, then went back and watched the first on dvd.

I actually think it was better that way, watching the first season as a prequel meant the slower story with too much exposition was interesting as filling in background on shit I'd already seen in season 2. Not sure I'd have rated it as highly the other way around.



Also there is a fair amount fantasy-author-first-book-bullshit in season 1. By the second season there are enough plates spinning that nobody has to fill pages with, for example, everything that happened in the eyrie and overlong scenes where nothing happens to the Targaryans. And the first season defines too many people as unambiguously good/evil as you meet them.

A lot of moaning I've seen about season 2 seems to basically be that they couldn't fit everything in. Well tough shit.

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Reply #1585 on: June 16, 2012, 10:42:50 AM


Also there is a fair amount fantasy-author-first-book-bullshit in season 1. By the second season there are enough plates spinning that nobody has to fill pages with, for example, everything that happened in the eyrie and overlong scenes where nothing happens to the Targaryans. And the first season defines too many people as unambiguously good/evil as you meet them. .

I think the first novel bullshit is all in your head though because it was far from RR Martin's first novel or screenplay. Plus I didn't get that from the book in the slightest.

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Reply #1586 on: June 16, 2012, 10:56:27 AM

I haven't read the book.

I was referring to a general tendency of fantasy novel authors to fill their early work and especially first part of a series, with too much fantasy and not enough novel. First season came across the same way after watching the second season before it.

If it didn't come from the book, fair enough.

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Reply #1587 on: June 16, 2012, 02:05:41 PM

With A Song of Ice and Fire the fantasy actually increases with each book.  The first book has the least fantasy.  I don't know if that has been translated into the series though; I've lost perspective.

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Reply #1588 on: June 16, 2012, 02:16:15 PM

Oh no, the second season had far far more fantasy elements than the first so i don't know what hes going on about.  We had shadow babies, face changers, multi warlocks, poison drinking witches and zombie armies.  First season only had Dany being fire immune and dragons.

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Reply #1589 on: June 16, 2012, 08:21:49 PM

There were some white walkers in the first scene of the pilot as well; however I agree that season two had much more fantasy.

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Reply #1590 on: June 17, 2012, 07:46:06 AM

I think eldaec was trying to explain something using inappropriate terms.  When he was referring to fantasy it wasn't magic and such, it was that any first book in such a series to to try and set the EPIC tone with over-long exposition and details fleshed-out unnecessarily.   Instead of feeling like a world and epic things feel overblown and ponderous because the author has tried to vomit too much into the setting instead of just letting things happen.

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Reply #1591 on: June 17, 2012, 08:24:54 AM

Merusk covers it better. By fantasy I don't just mean zombies, I mean how much of the time is spent saying 'look at how fantastical this world is', even in entirely non-magic areas, instead of telling a story about characters that happen to have an unusual set of tools and situations in front of them.

The first season lingered too long on how amazing the wall & night watch is, how weird and nuts the community in the eyrie is, how Targaryens were just hanging out with mysterious horse nomads who were really fucking mysterious and have I mentioned in last 5 minutes how they never crossed the seas?

In the second season, the story had got up enough speed that when a witch gives birth to a shadow who kills a guy they do it with a couple of meaningful looks and it doesn't seem unreasonable. The script doesn't spend time fantasising about wildfire, they mention it once in a scene primarily about Tyrion being smart and Cersi being a damn fool, then they just blow some shit up.

I'm not saying any of it was bad or anything - just this is why I preferred the second season.

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Reply #1592 on: June 17, 2012, 09:19:49 AM

Interview with Natalia Tena.

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I was a bit upset about the fact that they showed my minge without hair because I think my character would have a massive bush. I would have muff, like a muff coming down the thighs.

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Reply #1593 on: June 17, 2012, 10:32:38 AM

She sounds delightful.

Seriously.

Is she Scottish ?

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Reply #1594 on: June 17, 2012, 11:20:30 AM

Apparently, she's British but of Spanish descent.

Definitely sounds like a contender for Ms. Scotland.  why so serious?

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Reply #1595 on: June 17, 2012, 06:19:09 PM

 
Interview with Natalia Tena.

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I was a bit upset about the fact that they showed my minge without hair because I think my character would have a massive bush. I would have muff, like a muff coming down the thighs.

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Reply #1596 on: June 17, 2012, 09:58:38 PM

Interview with Natalia Tena.

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I was a bit upset about the fact that they showed my minge without hair because I think my character would have a massive bush. I would have muff, like a muff coming down the thighs.

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Reply #1597 on: June 20, 2012, 09:21:22 AM

A velvety merkin is always delicious.


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Reply #1598 on: June 21, 2012, 12:06:43 PM

As good as Dinklage has been i hope this year it's Alfie Allen who gets an emmy.  And then i hope he rubs it all over his sisters face.

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Reply #1599 on: June 21, 2012, 08:36:04 PM

He really did do a spectacular job this season.

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Reply #1601 on: June 26, 2012, 01:17:29 AM

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Reply #1602 on: June 26, 2012, 01:34:12 AM

Interview with Natalia Tena.

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I was a bit upset about the fact that they showed my minge without hair because I think my character would have a massive bush. I would have muff, like a muff coming down the thighs.

I also liked this quote from the interview:

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"I think it’s really unfair, every actor, any actress has had her tits out. Every single actress I know. Blokes it’s like, let’s see some cock. Do you know what I mean? Let’s make it more even."

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Reply #1603 on: June 26, 2012, 06:40:10 AM

Ha, the Great Bearded Glacier.

And no one will ever let go on the four page descriptions of meals.

Still trying to figure out why Vork was in that video though.

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Reply #1604 on: June 26, 2012, 06:47:17 AM

Maybe if you are on Geek&Sundry, you get an complimentary castmember of the Guild loaned for your first video as introduction present?
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Reply #1605 on: June 26, 2012, 07:40:38 PM

There's a new Game of Thrones RPG out. This Aussie review of it is very funny - especially when they get to the archer combat.
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Reply #1606 on: June 27, 2012, 09:08:51 AM

Wow, that game looks terribad.

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Reply #1607 on: June 27, 2012, 10:48:25 AM

Oh man the end of that review vid had me rolling at the hand on hip  why so serious?

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Reply #1608 on: June 28, 2012, 02:23:36 PM

Wow, that game looks terribad.

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Reply #1609 on: June 28, 2012, 02:30:35 PM

Wow, that game looks terribad.

Cyanide.

That would certainly fix the problem, but only if we could get the developers to take it.  why so serious?

Yes, I know Cyanide developed it.

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