Kickstarter - The Thread.

[MahrinSkel]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/70308014/kings-assembly-a-computer-mouse-full-of-awesome?ref=discovery

Interesting new concept that combines mice and keyboards.

Looked at it, seems awful.

I think it would be awesome for some games.

---Dave

[schild]

Like what? Subway Driver Simulator?

[tazelbain]

Extreme Data Entry: India

[MahrinSkel]

Like what? Subway Driver Simulator?

Two thumbsticks, two mice, and 2-3 buttons under every finger?  Even if you can only use one of the mice, that's still 6-axis plus a lot of control inputs you don't have to move more than a trivial amount to use.  It's basically speedpads that double as mice, completely blows away speedpad + 16 button mouse (since 12 of those buttons are all on the thumb).

--Dave

[Sky]

I hope you know a good physical therapist.

And probably the other kind, too.

[schild]

Like what? Subway Driver Simulator?

Two thumbsticks, two mice, and 2-3 buttons under every finger?  Even if you can only use one of the mice, that's still 6-axis plus a lot of control inputs you don't have to move more than a trivial amount to use.  It's basically speedpads that double as mice, completely blows away speedpad + 16 button mouse (since 12 of those buttons are all on the thumb).

--Dave

Couldn't name a game, could ya?

[MahrinSkel]

Like what? Subway Driver Simulator?

Two thumbsticks, two mice, and 2-3 buttons under every finger?  Even if you can only use one of the mice, that's still 6-axis plus a lot of control inputs you don't have to move more than a trivial amount to use.  It's basically speedpads that double as mice, completely blows away speedpad + 16 button mouse (since 12 of those buttons are all on the thumb).

--Dave

Couldn't name a game, could ya?

For me, almost any shooter, especially one with a lot of secondary commands such as the Tribes series.  But I'm a wacko who uses a joystick in the left hand as a keyboard substitute because having 3 fingers tasked with movement is annoying.

--Dave

[Nightblade]

Couldn't name a game, could ya?

VIRTUAL ON!!!

[jgsugden]

Like what? Subway Driver Simulator?

Two thumbsticks, two mice, and 2-3 buttons under every finger?  Even if you can only use one of the mice, that's still 6-axis plus a lot of control inputs you don't have to move more than a trivial amount to use.  It's basically speedpads that double as mice, completely blows away speedpad + 16 button mouse (since 12 of those buttons are all on the thumb).

--Dave

Couldn't name a game, could ya?

Hey, when you're talking about maximizing your one handed keyboarding experience, games are not the first thing you need to consider...

[Viin]

Not sure I've seen this posted:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/judgesguild/city-state-of-the-invincible-overlord

[schild]

eww

[Trippy]

Not sure I've seen this posted:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/judgesguild/city-state-of-the-invincible-overlord

Totally getting that.

[Soln]

Oh look minis.

[Margalis]

So from what I gather Broken Age sold poorly.

I don't understand these KS games where they either don't show the game to non-backers at all, or they show it, it looks bad, then they say "well the game is secretly good but only backers get evidence of that."

It seems like for many KS games the goal isn't to create a game that will then be sold to a general audience, the goal is to create a game only for the backers.

[Ingmar]

I imagine many potential buyers of Broken Age are waiting for it to actually be done before buying.

[Hawkbit]

I imagine many potential buyers of Broken Age are waiting for it to actually be done before buying.

Yep.  My kid was bugging me to buy it because she saw some playthroughs on youtube.  I told her I'd buy it once it's fully released.

[Kail]

Yeah, ditto, plus, $25 is kind of steep for me for any adventure game these days.

And it's not helped by the fact that they sent out a coupon for 25% off to everyone who already bought a Doublefine game as a reward for loyalty... and then a week later put the game on sale at 33% off for everybody.  That seems a bit shitty to me.  It comes off like you're either desperate and panicking, or you knew ahead of time you'd be gouging your most loyal customers for an extra 8%, and neither option really inspires confidence.

[schild]

lol, how is this still a thing?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bobsgame/bobs-game?ref=category

[Nerf]

lol, how is this still a thing?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bobsgame/bobs-game?ref=category

Reading that guys insane fucking backstory makes me feel so much better about all of the terrible decisions I've made in life.  His *goal* is to live in a van, and I'm assuming there's at least one river in silicone valley.

[Fabricated]

Bob's Game is one of those things like TimeCube and Dr. Chiu; it's been around forever and somehow comes back just when it has disappeared from the periphery.

[HaemishM]

Who the fuck actually pledges to give these completely broken psychopaths money? 

[Paelos]

Who the fuck actually pledges to give these completely broken psychopaths money? 

Pretty much everyone in the Chris Roberts thing.

ZING!

[Fabricated]

Hey Paelos:

Washington state files first ever lawsuit over failed Kickstarter campaign

Ever wonder what happens to companies that raise money on Kickstarter but don't deliver on what they promised? If you mess with people in Washington state, the attorney general will come after you.

In what's the first consumer protection lawsuit in the nation involving crowdfunding, Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson today sued Ashville, Tenn.-based Altius Management and its founder Edward J. Polchlepek, otherwise known as Ed Nash.

Nash raised $25,146 from 810 backers in October 2012 - including at least 31 from Washington - for a playing card game called Asylum pushed on Kickstarter.

Project backers were promised the playing cards and other rewards with an estimated delivery date of December 2012. Ferguson says to date, the project has not been completed and none of the backers have received any of the promised items or any refunds. Nash and the company haven't communicated with donors since July 2013.

Kickstarter's terms of use make clear that companies are legally obligated to fulfill the promised rewards or provide consumer refunds.

"Consumers need to be aware that crowdfunding is not without risk," said Ferguson. "This lawsuit sends a clear message to people seeking the public's money: Washington state will not tolerate crowdfunding theft. The Attorney General's Office will hold those accountable who don't play by the rules."

The case is being handled by Assistant Attorney General Jake Bernstein, who tells KIRO Radio he's had a few failed Kickstarter campaigns of his own and wondered what happens when a company doesn't deliver.

"I started talking to people on Kickstarter and asked if there were any straightforward failures to deliver," he says.

Bernstein says he got a tip from a donor who didn't receive what was promised, and decided to pursue Nash when he learned of his failed campaign.

"The money went somewhere. So he got a lump sum from all of these backers and there's no excuse why they didn't get their cards," Nash says.

While the case is the first involving a crowdfunding campaign, Bernstein says the legal principles are no different than any other failure to deliver action. He says the goal is ultimately to get Nash to fulfill his obligation and produce and deliver the cards, or provide a refund to all the donors.

Kickstarter issued the following statement in response to the suit:

    Tens of thousands of incredible projects have been brought to life through Kickstarter. We want every backer to have an amazing experience, and we're frustrated when they don't. We hope this process brings resolution and clarity to the backers of this project.

[schild]

And it was for Bicycle printed playing cards. One of the things that should REALLY never get delayed. All they had to do was deliver fucking art. Looks like they shot the moon on stretch goals though.

[Venkman]

Exactly.

I'm very interested in how this plays out. I love the idea of kickstarter. I firmly believe that every five years a new group of suckers marks niave people need to learn laisse faire capitalism. That's what kickstarter does. It lets people dabble in their delusions without needing them to bet the farm. And it's really valuable.

It's one reason I hate how NJ is against Telsa. But that's best left to politics 

[Simond]

Hey Paelos:

Washington state files first ever lawsuit over failed Kickstarter campaign

Brad McQuaid last seen stuffing dollar bills into suitcase, running for the border.

[Paelos]

Interesting. It was really a matter of time, but I'm glad to see the ball rolling.

[Hawkbit]

I saw this pop on a gaming rag:  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/438269196/shiness

I don't kickstarter, but I'll buy this.  Looks amazing for an indie studio of 15 people.

[schild]

That is fucking beyond Furry.



GTFO.

[Hawkbit]

It's also French.

[schild]

That changes nothing.

[Hawkbit]

Okay, I found my first kickstarter I'll dump money to.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/readingrainbow/bring-reading-rainbow-back-for-every-child-everywh

[Paelos]

That's one of those projects that will get way more than a million dollars.

[Lightstalker]

It's already at goal in Day 1.  KickTraq doesn't do projections on the first day alone, but their "trending towards" graphic puts it at $32M, aka 3200% of goal.

The Brent Spiner cameo at the end of the video was pretty funny.

Though it makes you wonder why something like this ends up on Kickstarter.  Reading Rainbow isn't exactly a new 'product' and a childhood literacy effort is a strange thing to require crowd funding to make go (should be an extant priority of our educational system). 

[Sky]

(should be an extant priority of our educational system). 

What fucking country are you from?