Phildo
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Honestly, I just want the ability to conquer territory without the acquiring the populated planets. I keep accidentally acquiring new territory because my allies take systems for me and now I have a bunch of extra planets ballooning my admin cap. Tried bombarding them but apparently I can't take a planet below 10 population.
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Khaldun
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If you're in a Federation, you can give systems you don't want away to your allies and vassals. I've been doing that a decent amount, works pretty well.
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Phildo
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I think I should be able to just vassalize the planets directly, but I can't do a damn thing right now because I'm caught in a foreverwar between the two fallen empires. I managed to completely wipe out the Prethoryns in the middle of it and neither side is over 40% war attrition yet after like 30 years.
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Khaldun
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Yeah, that often happens--the AI has a habit of declaring wars where neither side can reach the other one because their forces would have to go through territories that they don't have permission to enter, and the AI never seems to think of declaring war on those empires just to gain access to its main target, even if the empire in the way is a minor nuisance in relative terms. So then they just sit there and stare at each other and tick the attrition down one slow percentage at a time. That's been an issue from the beginning--they should really find a way to fix it. Might be as simple as a check: "Can I reach the enemy that I want to attack? If no, no war."
I also wish that the game could do a check on a war's progress that would allow for quick mercy surrenders. If I demand vassalization for a small empire on my borders that has no alliances of any kind, doesn't have an ideology that is completely antithetical to mine, and is Pathetic relative to me, I shouldn't have to occupy every single planet and defeat every single fleet before they give in and agreed to vassalage. Sure, yes, there are kinds of enemies that should fight to the last, and some of them do--exterminators won't knuckle under no matter what, as should be the case. But if it's a kind of empire that can vassalize, and it's a foregone conclusion that I'm going to win, don't make me curb stomp them down to the last drop.
At the least, though, I always feel less like an Evil Overlord if I'm playing a xenophile or other relatively benevolent type and I vassalize a pathetic empire nearby because the AI usually is so awful at governing--in the new setup, three-quarters of their buildings will be police headquarters and prisons and commercial buildings. (Kind of like America, actually...)
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Phildo
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Getting to the enemy territory isn't a problem since the entire galaxy chose sides. I either have passage or can conquer my way through, except I don't want to keep ballooning my empire. I suppose I've already effectively beaten the game, but I would kind of like to finish the war and disburse the winnings to my allies.
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Sir T
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This is on sale on steam for a Tenner right now.
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Hic sunt dracones.
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HaemishM
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I truly cannot imagine trying to play this on a console.
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Hoax
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I can imagine that somehow the game has been made worse and will be made even worser because its on consoles. what the actual fuck.
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Jade Falcon
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I was surprised to see it as well. So who's taking one for the team and trying this out?
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Hawkbit
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I read a review or two about this, because the idea is intriguing. The biggest complaints were not the controls or interface, which they seemed to feel were somewhat decent. Rather, the fact that this is a baseline Stellaris experience and is missing so many of the things they learned and implemented that improved the game post-release. I might throw $20 at it some point, but the general review consensus was if you can play on PC, do that, not this.
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Mandella
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Screw consoles, I just wanna know when it's coming to mobile. Everybody knows that's where the real money is!
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Hawkbit
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Do you guys not have phones? Yea you guys all have phones right?
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Sir T
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Hic sunt dracones.
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satael
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Khaldun
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They'll have my money for anything with this now. It's incredibly balanced now--challenging, not impossible; it stays pretty interesting into the late game; different aliens play in quite notably different ways.
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Teleku
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Yep. Every one of their games has a mechanic/theme its built around, and this is the first one that is actual story. All sorts of the economic and military management we love from the past, but this one is just endlessly replayable with how easy it is for them to add story events in, let alone the racial role play.
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Mandella
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Every update draws me back for at least one playthrough, I have to admit.
So here's my cash Paradox, you win again.
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Ironwood
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Started a new game. Literally don't know how to play anymore.
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Reg
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Same here and I have absolutely no clue what's going on. Oh well I'll figure it out eventually.
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Ironwood
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I'm going to get some instructional video going, I think.
I can see that there's a lot of stuff added for the trade expansion (No clue how it works) and I simply have zero idea what's going on with my planetary situation ; pops, zones, all that shit ; no clue.
As you say, it'll be fun figuring it out.
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Yegolev
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Got this for $10 and just started. So far I like it.
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question. They called it The Prayer, its answer was law Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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Teleku
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Yeah Ironwood, I had to relearn how to do everything also after the last major overhaul. Watching videos is probably the best way to bring you up to speed, but after that if you still have questions on some points, feel free to post here. Sure one of us can answer for you.
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Reg
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I watched one video and then I played several games getting better each time as I slowly learned how all the resources fed off each other.
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Ironwood
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The Wiki is also good to get up to speed. Haven't had much of a chance to dive into it since FrostPunk was on sale, I got it and it put hooks in me DEEP.
But I'll get there.
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Khaldun
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Once you get into the swing of it, the changes are very smooth. They're frankly way better than the systems they had before.
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Trippy
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Any of the add-ons that are on Steam sale right now worth getting? They all seem to have medicare reviews though many of the complaints are price related so it's hard to tell which ones actually have decent content.
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Ironwood
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I got them all and started a new game.
I'm not really noticing much difference. Sure, Ravagers and big beasts are a thing now, but....so what ?
I may change my mind when I get my DeathStar and Ringworld.
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Hawkbit
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I don’t even know what they all do, but I keep throwing money at them. I think the story packs are widely considered good, beyond that I’m not really sure.
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Ironwood
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I'm sure they are, but it's the double edged sword of 'Story pack AND big patch.'
Mostly the patch is the meat and the story is just dessert. Some folks don't wanna pay for dessert and some folks are already full from the meat.
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Ironwood
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Goddammit, I have crushed your fleet, invaded all your planets and even destroyed all your science and engineering vessels.
I would consider my War Goals Met YOU FUCKERS SO GIVE UP YOUR EMPIRE.
So annoying.
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Trippy
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eldaec
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This is free all week.
Good luck finishing a game in that time.
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Khaldun
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I like all the DLC for this game except the stuff that's purely cosmetic.
Free update this week that fixes some issues with Federations and adds some new gameplay.
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Speedy Cerviche
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Started playing this again after not touching it for over a year or more (before planet tile & rare resource changes) and it's coming along nicely, lots of flavour and polish. Less frustrating to play than HOI4 although you can see it's quite a bit simpler (hyperlanes & blob fleets vs fronts and complicated combined arms forces) so that's partially to be expected. Still game usually kicks my ass admiral difficulty and still feels fun so I'm enjoying it.
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