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jakonovski
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Reply #7665 on: June 30, 2011, 07:10:49 AM

Oh was just talking out of my ass on the weird "200 hours of gameplay per class" statement. Now it might be they won't have the endgame content and after (200/24) days people will start rerolling, but I'm sure that's not where they're aiming.
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Reply #7666 on: June 30, 2011, 08:19:19 AM

If there is a faux Han Solo for me to faux make out with, I am so there. I would even give up playing the smuggler for whatever class gets to make out with him.
By the looks of it not only it's going to be Han Solo, but a Han Solo wearing Indiana Jones' hat.
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Reply #7667 on: June 30, 2011, 10:46:43 AM

Oh was just talking out of my ass on the weird "200 hours of gameplay per class" statement. Now it might be they won't have the endgame content and after (200/24) days people will start rerolling, but I'm sure that's not where they're aiming.

Why not?

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Reply #7668 on: June 30, 2011, 11:02:29 AM

Ah, yeah, and I just saw this.

-a jedi class that is balanced to the han solo class and the random clone special forces trooper is going to feel stupid, not as stupid as a support buffing jedi though.

What, pray tell, is the alternative? Not balancing the classes for the sake of some sort of thematic power structure?
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Reply #7669 on: June 30, 2011, 11:04:59 AM

Ah, yeah, and I just saw this.

-a jedi class that is balanced to the han solo class and the random clone special forces trooper is going to feel stupid, not as stupid as a support buffing jedi though.

What, pray tell, is the alternative? Not balancing the classes for the sake of some sort of thematic power structure?

Making Jedi really powerful, but not having them as a base class.  Instead, players can unlock this ability, mainly through playing a ton and luck.  The number of Jedi would be incredibly low, and to make sure the number didn't grow TOO much, they would be permadeath characters.  I'm pretty sure this novel solution to the problem would cause no problems.
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Reply #7670 on: June 30, 2011, 11:10:03 AM

Making Jedi really powerful, but not having them as a base class.  Instead, players can unlock this ability, mainly through playing a ton and luck.
They could maybe have special items, say, holocrons offering the players hints on how to achieve the unlock.
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Reply #7671 on: June 30, 2011, 11:12:22 AM

What an awesome idea!!
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Reply #7672 on: June 30, 2011, 12:04:21 PM

Ah, yeah, and I just saw this.

-a jedi class that is balanced to the han solo class and the random clone special forces trooper is going to feel stupid, not as stupid as a support buffing jedi though.

What, pray tell, is the alternative? Not balancing the classes for the sake of some sort of thematic power structure?

Making Jedi really powerful, but not having them as a base class.  Instead, players can unlock this ability, mainly through playing a ton and luck.  The number of Jedi would be incredibly low, and to make sure the number didn't grow TOO much, they would be permadeath characters.  I'm pretty sure this novel solution to the problem would cause no problems.

So, not sure how this is any different than leveling and getting epics and gaining an advantage in the game. Besides, didn't SWG try this. One is not just born a jedi ... One must...oh wait

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Reply #7673 on: June 30, 2011, 12:12:30 PM

What an awesome idea!!

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Reply #7674 on: June 30, 2011, 12:20:54 PM

A raid boss could drop a Jar of Midichlorians that could be used to turn your character into a Jedi.
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Reply #7675 on: June 30, 2011, 12:25:24 PM

So, not sure how this is any different than leveling and getting epics and gaining an advantage in the game. Besides, didn't SWG try this. One is not just born a jedi ... One must...oh wait
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Reply #7676 on: June 30, 2011, 12:26:55 PM

Making Jedi really powerful, but not having them as a base class.  Instead, players can unlock this ability, mainly through playing a ton and luck.
They could maybe have special items, say, holocrons offering the players hints on how to achieve the unlock.

What would be really awesome is if Bounty Hunters could pick up bounties on player jedi. Say from a mission terminal or something...

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Reply #7677 on: June 30, 2011, 01:18:07 PM


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Reply #7678 on: June 30, 2011, 01:51:50 PM

It seems like they have a pretty damned standard dungeons with bosses and loot game built into this.

The video footage that I've watched looked like pretty standard WoW-diku stuff in star warsy skins (4 person groups with tank/heals/dps/cc). 

I think it's worth noting that means modern WoW.   There are obviously a lot of people in here who haven't touched WoW in a longggg time (with good reason of course).
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Reply #7679 on: June 30, 2011, 02:03:30 PM

If there is a faux Han Solo for me to faux make out with, I am so there. I would even give up playing the smuggler for whatever class gets to make out with him.
By the looks of it not only it's going to be Han Solo, but a Han Solo wearing Indiana Jones' hat.

Rawr, hook mama up.

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Reply #7680 on: June 30, 2011, 04:00:26 PM

I don't see a problem with Jedi being balanced with other classes.  The table top Star Wars RPG i got talking into playing recently does this and it works out just fine.

Over and out.
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Reply #7681 on: June 30, 2011, 04:04:33 PM

The whole "Jedi should be a rare thing" worked in SWG because in that timeline (paperback books be damned), there were no Jedi except two Sith lords, Yoda, Obi, Luke and Leia.  Jedi WERE rare.

This is TOR.  Jedi in this era are like the Navy Seals of the Republic Army, complete with armor, ranks and titles.  Get over yourselves and lets move on.
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Reply #7682 on: June 30, 2011, 04:16:26 PM

The whole "Jedi should be a rare thing" worked in SWG because in that timeline (paperback books be damned), there were no Jedi except two Sith lords, Yoda, Obi, Luke and Leia.  Jedi WERE rare.

This is TOR.  Jedi in this era are like the Navy Seals of the Republic Army, complete with armor, ranks and titles.  Get over yourselves and lets move on.

 why so serious?
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Reply #7683 on: June 30, 2011, 04:31:30 PM

This is TOR.  Jedi in this era are like the Navy Seals of the Republic Army, complete with armor, ranks and titles.  Get over yourselves and lets move on.

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Reply #7684 on: June 30, 2011, 04:31:39 PM

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Reply #7685 on: June 30, 2011, 04:34:15 PM


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Reply #7686 on: June 30, 2011, 04:37:32 PM

What's Jim Raynor got to do with SWTOR?
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Reply #7687 on: June 30, 2011, 04:41:09 PM

What's Jim Raynor got to do with SWTOR?

 Ohhhhh, I see. Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #7688 on: June 30, 2011, 05:08:18 PM

This is TOR.  Jedi in this era are like the Navy Seals of the Republic Army, complete with armor, ranks and titles.  Get over yourselves and lets move on.
I kind of agree.  Not even SEALs though.  Jedi could be of all different Force levels in this game.  One might have enough connection with the Force to lift a pebble, but that's not going to make them a Sith-killing bad-ass.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #7689 on: June 30, 2011, 08:21:39 PM


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Reply #7690 on: June 30, 2011, 10:18:09 PM

Jedi in this era are like the Navy Seals of the Republic Army, complete with armor, ranks and titles.  Get over yourselves and lets move on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6sj89xgnl4&t=1m49s
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Reply #7691 on: July 01, 2011, 08:38:14 AM

Yep, Bounty Hunter looks badass (new progression video):

http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/bounty-hunter-character-progression

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Reply #7692 on: July 01, 2011, 08:43:05 AM

Yep, Bounty Hunter looks badass (new progression video):

http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/bounty-hunter-character-progression

That was actually probably the best gameplay trailer they've made so far.
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Reply #7693 on: July 01, 2011, 08:49:35 AM

Also, while there is probably still some work to be done on that front, animations (and melee confrontations) seem less awkward and "off-sync" compared to earlier footage.

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Reply #7694 on: July 01, 2011, 09:28:02 AM

I was so sold on powertech....but mercs get the backpack rocket launcher!

I hope they put in some kind of Rift-esque role system. As Scott promised, the game has been changed. I want to be able to switch up to fit the situation, but I think BW is too far down the path of companions filling that role.
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Reply #7695 on: July 01, 2011, 09:48:09 AM

I want to play a mantis warrior.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #7696 on: July 01, 2011, 09:50:53 AM

The Verpine! (They designed the B-wing with Ackbar, y'know... You can see one in the background of the Cantina Scene.)

 Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

I agree, they'd be fun.

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Reply #7697 on: July 01, 2011, 10:43:14 AM


 awesome, for real
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Reply #7698 on: July 01, 2011, 12:06:18 PM

The whole "Jedi should be a rare thing" worked in SWG because in that timeline (paperback books be damned), there were no Jedi except two Sith lords, Yoda, Obi, Luke and Leia.  Jedi WERE rare.

This is TOR.  Jedi in this era are like the Navy Seals of the Republic Army, complete with armor, ranks and titles.  Get over yourselves and lets move on.

Makes you wonder why they bothered with the other classes......
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Reply #7699 on: July 01, 2011, 02:15:27 PM

The other classes look fairly awesome. I'm planning an Imperial Agent for my first Empire guy and probably a Trooper as my first Republic character. Of course, I'll have a Jedi eventually but I'm in no hurry.
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