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Reply #980 on: April 10, 2014, 06:57:41 AM

Skye is a fuckwit.  The show would be better without her, even though I get why she's there.

And they shot her that time.  That was awesome.

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Reply #981 on: April 10, 2014, 07:04:12 AM

You know, thinking about it, Skye is basically just there as a plot device.  Coulson needed to figure out what happened to him, since it obviously wasn't a vacation in Tahiti, so how do we let him find out the information?  Let's shoot one of the team and then they have to go to extreme lengths to save her!  Voila! 

Considering how much effort everyone has gone through to protect some hacker chick, I'm wonder if her 084 power isn't to make everyone around her unreasonably fall in love or want to protect her, because there's no other excuse I can think of for why she's so important.

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Reply #982 on: April 10, 2014, 07:08:56 AM

She was The Doctors Companion Outsider for a while.

But a very, very shit one.

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Reply #983 on: April 10, 2014, 08:51:30 AM

Skye was misproduced from the get-go.  All our harpings at the beginning of the thread were dead on.  She really needed to be more of an oddball type character, not little miss popularity.  Either they do some kind of negative reveal next season (maybe she was a whore b4 joining the team or something) or they write her off the show.

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Reply #984 on: April 10, 2014, 08:59:43 AM

Big bets that the season-long arc will involve some kind of return of/redesign of HYDRA.

Heh.

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Reply #985 on: April 10, 2014, 10:16:48 AM

That might be the first time I've been right. I'm usually spectacularly wrong about Dr. Who, which I choose to believe is because my ideas are better than Moffat's.

Not that this was a tough one to guess.
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Reply #986 on: April 10, 2014, 10:47:47 AM

There is a possibility both more likely and more awful than the double agent bullshit.

Ward really is HYDRA, but Skye turns him back with her awesome empathy. Then everyone on the plane forgives him because they are a family. The murders will never be spoken of again, except when necessary to generate arbitary tension.

Ward is literally Angel.

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Reply #987 on: April 10, 2014, 10:55:31 AM

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Reply #988 on: April 10, 2014, 10:56:18 AM

I really hope not. This really needs to be a way of getting him out of the cast except for the occasional mustache-twirling guest star return. Then we can get some kind of more interesting muscle (Deathlok!) in the crew.
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Reply #989 on: April 10, 2014, 11:07:50 AM


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Reply #990 on: April 10, 2014, 11:17:44 AM

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Reply #992 on: April 10, 2014, 11:55:51 AM


Over and out.
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Reply #993 on: April 10, 2014, 02:05:09 PM


I am looking forward to quoting this post if I'm right.

I hope I'm wrong, I really do, but knowing I'll be able quote this if the worst happens makes me feel better.

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Reply #994 on: April 10, 2014, 09:07:39 PM

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Reply #995 on: April 11, 2014, 02:48:31 PM

There is confirmation that ...

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Reply #996 on: April 11, 2014, 03:54:13 PM


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Reply #997 on: April 12, 2014, 06:17:41 AM

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Reply #998 on: April 12, 2014, 08:51:49 AM

He's a Beserker that's been seduced by Lorelei.  I doubt there's much left in that mind that hasn't been turned to grey goo; so the writers have a lot of leeway with him I'm sure.

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Reply #999 on: April 12, 2014, 09:07:06 AM


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Reply #1000 on: April 12, 2014, 10:48:24 AM

Just read this nugget in re. Skye as Spider-Woman.  I know it's been posited in here b4 but it's likely she is indeed J. Drew, unless it's a red herring; which it likely is.   Ohhhhh, I see.    I'm really trying hard not to get back into comics.

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She is captured by a HYDRA reserve unit under Count Otto Vermis's leadership who erases her memories, brainwashes her, and recruits her as a HYDRA agent under the codename Arachne.[9] One of HYDRA's top agents, Jared, is assigned to train her in combat and espionage, and to seduce her. Once Jessica has become his lover, he allows himself to be captured by S.H.I.E.L.D., so that she can be goaded into assassinating S.H.I.E.L.D. commander Nick Fury.[10]

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Reply #1001 on: April 12, 2014, 11:08:54 AM

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Reply #1002 on: April 12, 2014, 01:22:54 PM

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Reply #1003 on: April 12, 2014, 02:12:14 PM

I think we can dispense with the spoiler tags on everything.

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Reply #1004 on: April 12, 2014, 02:23:38 PM

I think we can dispense with the spoiler tags on everything.

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Reply #1005 on: April 12, 2014, 02:43:40 PM

There's no freaking way that Garrett is The Clairvoyant.  Even if you set aside the fact that TC is obviously a Chessmaster type who keeps track everything and Garrett can't even keep track of who has already heard the Skylight story.  TC had an elaborate patsy set up, and Garrett couldn't even keep from blowing his own cover to Coulsen.  Beyond all that, Cap2 gave us a much better candidate for TC:


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Reply #1006 on: April 12, 2014, 04:07:35 PM

I agree that Garrett doesn't really fit the profile that well, plus his slip up was pretty fucking retarded for a guy who is supposed to be one of the top Agents at an organization where being able to keep secrets is a fairly major priority. I think they're going to get greatly diminishing returns though if they do any more "that wasn't really the Clairvoyant" twists. It would be easier to say that the slip up was intentional, as it got him transport out with Ward, they killed Hand who was one of the few high level Agents left, and Hydra was already exposed and SHIELD is pretty much done so trying to maintain cover didn't have as much benefit as before.
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Reply #1007 on: April 13, 2014, 04:58:46 AM

I don't watch this show, but I have a question for those who do concerning the Captain America movie (spoiled just in case somebody hasn't seen it yet):

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Reply #1008 on: April 13, 2014, 07:48:39 AM

I don't watch this show, but I have a question for those who do concerning the Captain America movie (spoiled just in case somebody hasn't seen it yet):

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Reply #1009 on: April 13, 2014, 08:14:32 AM

To be clear, the most recent episode ends a very short time after the climax of the movie.  There is still a lot to be resolved.
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Reply #1010 on: April 13, 2014, 10:48:37 AM


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Reply #1011 on: April 13, 2014, 02:17:05 PM


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Reply #1012 on: April 13, 2014, 07:00:41 PM

I thought they were LMDs simply because, well... Saffron Burrows.  Why waste her?  Then again, they had Leonor Varela and only used her for 1 epi.   Head scratch

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Reply #1013 on: April 13, 2014, 07:03:04 PM

From what we see in the movie all the HYDRA members seem to know exactly who is in the clubhouse so I really just don't understand why the show treats it differently.

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Reply #1014 on: April 13, 2014, 08:42:17 PM

I like how Cap2 shits on this show from a very high place and yet the fans are convinced the tv writers have it all worked out.
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