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Rasix
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Eh, fuck that guy. Nice round, though.
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Nebu
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Eh, fuck that guy.
Phil hate... really? In all of sport, you could find a million more people worthy of your bile.
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Yeah. He's pretty bland, really. Other than being left handed and having a shitty haircut I can't see a reason to hate on him.
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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I just have two words for today.
"Go Phil!"
I'd be with you if that guy had any likeability to him at all. Sadly, there really is nothing there to like or loathe, just indifferent.
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Nebu
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Sadly, there really is nothing there to like or loathe, just indifferent.
He's not Tiger or Sergio. That's why I like him.
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ghost
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Well, he's a pretty damned good golfer. There's that to like about him.
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Rasix
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I live in Arizona so we get a lot of Phil crap here. There's his subcutaneous fat comment, his comments on having to make "drastic" changes due to taxes (yeah, pity the guy that hauls in $50-60 mil a year), and the fact that he's pretty much hated by all of his peers. Apparently his public persona is a complete fabrication (like Tiger pre-meltdown).
Still, he's the second best golfer of his generation, and could have been the best if he didn't finish second in so many majors. If he'd managed to close out some of those majors he'd be sitting near Tiger's total.
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Nebu
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I live in Arizona so we get a lot of Phil crap here. There's his subcutaneous fat comment, his comments on having to make "drastic" changes due to taxes (yeah, pity the guy that hauls in $50-60 mil a year), and the fact that he's pretty much hated by all of his peers. Apparently his public persona is a complete fabrication (like Tiger pre-meltdown).
Didn't know that. I used to play a good bit of golf with Tim Herron when I was younger and I've never heard him say anything negative about Phil in recent conversations. Still, it's nice to look behind the curtain.
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Rasix
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Tim Herron has the best nickname ever.
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Nebu
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Tim Herron has the best nickname ever.
We called him that when he was 15.... and shooting 67 on the local country club course. The bastard.
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Paelos
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I worked at East Lake for 3 years. We saw Phil and Tiger in the Fedex Cup quite often in that stretch (back before Tiger got divorced).
Phil's pretty universally hated by people that work in golf, but absolutely beloved by the media and his handlers. The going word is that the family stuff is totally contrived between him and his wife, and that he's been sheltered by the media from his personal life of banging around the nation much like Tiger. The reason it got out for Tiger was the divorce. If Phil's wife ever wanted to get off the gravy train, it would get ugly fast.
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Nebu
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Sounds like Phil has the same media guys that MJ did in the basketball world. People loved MJ, but he had quite a rep behind the scenes.
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Paelos
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Let's be fair, Tiger did too. The media wasn't going to touch him because everyone knew what kind of money was on the line. Golf was never more popular than when Tiger and Phil were on the course together head to head. If not for a fateful night with golf clubs, a smashed window, and a pissed of wife, the Tiger stuff never sees the light of day.
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Rasix
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I worked at East Lake for 3 years.
Hah. My brother worked at the Phoenician for a few years as a parking valet and bellhop. Man, the shit he saw. The media, I'm guessing, has a set of ground rules, because it wouldn't be very difficult to catch just about any athlete cheating on their spouse. One of his main duties was simply carting around women to various athlete's rooms late at night.
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Paelos
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I'll put it this way. As a regular shlub you weren't allowed FEDEX Cup passes unless you were in the inner circle picked by the club president and caddy master. That meant you understood the deal. Keep up, put up, and shut up. I never got them as a result. I was only allowed to do the pro-am and only for the groups with the B-guys. Never Tiger or Phil or the like.
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I have a pretty strong suspicion that most of the wives of these athletes could give two fucks who their husbands are sleeping with.
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Paelos
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In Phil's case, I think he loves his kids more than his life. The rest, I have no idea.
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I am with Rasix on this one. I have always loathed Phil (even though he is a lefty like me!). His 'aw shucks' bullshit public persona just grates on me. Give me Tiger any day. Although I would prefer the pre 2008 Tiger if you I was going to bet on him. His short game was an abomination yesterday.
I will give Phil some credit though- he came out of nowhere, hung a great score, and just deflated everyone in the field. Once that -3 went up Westwood, Mahan, etc knew they were dead.
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Paelos
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If I'm picking winners, I don't want Tiger in the Majors to win. It's a losing bet with no value odds. I'll toss a 20-1 on one of the Euros or Aussie at this point since they've won about 3-4 of the majors in the post-Tiger-tank-era.
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Cyrrex
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Yeah, Phil can go eat a dick. He's a big fake. Why anyone believes that false humility bullshit is beyond me. You don't become the second best golfer in a generation by being a swell guy, you get it by being an ego-centric maniacal asshole.
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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This was earlier today on my MSNBC page...
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Does any one know where the love of God goes...When the waves turn the minutes to hours? -G. Lightfoot
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Nebu
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"Always do what is right. It will gratify half of mankind and astound the other."
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So I wonder what the odds are that Usain Bolt is doping? The world's fastest man stopped short of condemning fellow Jamaican sprinters Asafa Powell and Sherone Simpson or American rival Tyson Gay, whose failed doping tests have left the sport in turmoil ahead of worlds. He just blows everyone out of the water. I'm a little skeptical that, in this day and age of doping being rampant, that he's clean.
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Nebu
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So I wonder what the odds are that Usain Bolt is doping?
Several people have looked into this, including Muscle Week.Their conclusion was that drug testing is a joke and his coach is more of a chemist than a coach. I agree that drug tests do little more than punish stupid and arrogant people.
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« Last Edit: July 25, 2013, 09:50:02 AM by Nebu »
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They do seem to be catching more people, though. I've always wondered, considering drug testing, if the problem wasn't more with corruption within the testing system than with incompetence. There is more than ample evidence to suggest that Lance Armstrong got away with his doping more by tip offs and bribing the officials than by actually passing tests. Of course he had good doctors too, but the Tour of Switzerland positive result is highly suspect for corruption within the system.
Edit- Wow. The video in that link is pretty damning for Bolt.
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Paelos
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if the problem wasn't more with corruption within the testing system than with incompetence.
I believe wholeheartedly that's all it is. It's not hard to catch these people. It's the question of whether or not you WANT to catch them. You think Tennis is trying hard to test Serena Williams even though she's one of the few tennis players ever to be dominant in her 30s, and still serving a ball over 120 mph. The fact is there's a conflict of interest. One of the only reasons Americans watch women's tennis is because they like watching Serena rather than a no-name foreigner.
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I don't think they care who it is as long as they are bringing in the dough.
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Nebu
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I don't think they care who it is as long as they are bringing in the dough.
I wonder if the Lance Armstrong ordeal was just a combination of revenge (for him being an asshole) and a way to bring more media attention to the sport. Makes sense from a marketing perspective.
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"Always do what is right. It will gratify half of mankind and astound the other."
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ghost
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Or maybe he missed a payment?
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Nebu
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Or maybe he missed a payment?
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Sir T
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Some British guy won the tour de Dope and sailed past the finish line with his SKY team, showing the Rupert Murdoch spirit of fairness.
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Hic sunt dracones.
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ghost
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There's just no way that Froome and Wiggins are clean.
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Ingmar
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As a nearly-40-year-old guy trying to keep up with younger faster dudes in my kendo class (well and also older faster dudes) I have a new appreciation for the temptation to use this stuff. Anyone know a good source in the Bay Area?
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01101010
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As a nearly-40-year-old guy trying to keep up with younger faster dudes in my kendo class (well and also older faster dudes) I have a new appreciation for the temptation to use this stuff. Anyone know a good source in the Bay Area? Christ man, just walk into any Gold's Gym men's locker room out there.
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Does any one know where the love of God goes...When the waves turn the minutes to hours? -G. Lightfoot
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ghost
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Yeah. You'd have to assume that there's a lot of this that gets used basically recreationally.
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