Game of Thrones [SPOILERS]

[Ironwood]

He's obviously still recovering. 

My views on Sophie Turner are a matter of public record, so you can imagine my reaction to the scene in question.

Thematically, it's wondrous that she's finally, finally, finally, finally grown up.  If you look at where she started and where she is, it's actually one of the more convincing character arcs in the show.  Oddly.  Since at first it was just one dimensional bullshit.

[angry.bob]

[EWSpider]

We need a What If? spin-off series where Oberyn lives and Arya and The Hound roam Westeros for the foreseeable future.

Also:

[lac]

I've never bothered with the DVD extras but they are surprisingly good. Quite fun if you haven't seen them before.
Stannis
Dothraki
Bolton
Varys and Petyr
Thoros
The entire fucking history
the lot

[Threash]

[Bunk]

Well, I wasn't quite expecting an episode like that. Became obvious after the credits only named like three actors. Hopefully fulfilled everyone's action, violence, and death quotient.


At least I now know pretty for certain what the last scene of the 10th episode is going to be.

[jgsugden]

I see three candidates for last scene of the season, and my best guess is a crap load more likely in my eyes.

[Speedy Cerviche]

I think a bunch of Jon's buddies who were ontop the wall survived.

And yeah I can think of 3 season ending moments too. Either way the last episode should deliver because I assume all 3 will be in there.

[Chimpy]

As I recall, Jon's "posse" from the books was:

Dolorous Edd (top of wall, survived)
Grenn (in tunnel, dead)
Pip (castle black, dead)
and of course Sam (survived)

So he lost half of the crew and his woman.

I think they did the battle on the wall much better than they did the Blackwater. I guess the criticism for the previous meant that they wanted to make sure they showed something a little more epic this time.

I am sure schild hated it because it was about the wall 

[Speedy Cerviche]

Well there must be like 50 Black Watch left at this point anyway. I think they showed Thenn, Ygrette & the big redheaded guy (Tormund?) bring down 50 by themselves let alone what the rest of the 50-100 raiders killed in the courtyard battle. Add to that another 10 dead (5 in tunnel, 5 on wall from giant arrows + oil explosion). Are they expecting help from the other two BW forts? Or did they already get a few reinforcements already?

[angry.bob]

50 Black Watch

Things would have gone much better for the defense if the wall was manned by the Royal Highlanders. They have machine guns, grenades, and whatnot

Sorry man, if I had to take it over getting Ohlongjohnson's name wrong, I'm giving out over referencing the 3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Scotland.

[Speedy Cerviche]

heh whoops.

I live 2 blocks away from the Black Watch regiment of Canada's HQ, get that mixed up easily.

[schild]

Not enough care and effort was put into the show to dedicate as much time to this fight as they apparently did in the book.

NO ONE CARES, JON SNUH

this show needs less fan service for book readers

I am sure schild hated it because it was about the wall 

I would've been fine if it weren't a whole episode.

[Threash]

That little "i got you bro" head nod the kid gave Jon when he killed Ygritte was so fucking hilarious.

[angry.bob]

he killed Ygritte

God fucking dammit.

SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE

I knew it was supposed to happen but haven't watched it yet.

[Samwise]

On the one hand I want to say "SPOILERS" and chastise Threash but on the other hand I don't know what the fuck you expect us to be talking about when you come to this thread the day after the episode airs.

[schild]

This is not a show where the drama is tense enough that spoilers matter.

True Detective? Sure.
Game of Thrones? Not so much.

[angry.bob]

On the one hand I want to say "SPOILERS" and chastise Threash but on the other hand I don't know what the fuck you expect us to be talking about when you come to this thread the day after the episode airs.

It's all good, I don't really care. I just don't know if we're spoilering stuff in here. Did I miss that? It's more that stuff is either spoilered or it isn't, I thought we were spoilering. But it looks like more of a sloppy mix of both.

[Ingmar]

I see three candidates for last scene of the season, and my best guess is a crap load more likely in my eyes.

I think your best guess is more likely to happen mid-late episode and the last scene of the episode will be the same one as the last scene of the book.

[Ironwood]

On the one hand I want to say "SPOILERS" and chastise Threash but on the other hand I don't know what the fuck you expect us to be talking about when you come to this thread the day after the episode airs.

Just glad I'm late to the party.  Filthy Euros are a day behind with GoT and I avoid this thread like the plague until I've caught up.

But I really didn't think she'd kark it so soon.  I thought there was a lot more tortuous mileage in the character.

Ah well.

[Tannhauser]

It's nice to have an episode focus on one storyline at once.  The fight was pretty good and though I have a couple of quibbles I was entertained.  Loved Jon and Sam's stories in this one.  Good to see some fantasy (giants, mastodons) in this fantasy show.  The scythe was a cool 'oh that makes sense' moment.

It was odd rooting for Ser Alister Thorne, turns out he can kick butt though.

[Setanta]

He's still a prick!

It was a good episode despite my dislike of Jon's arc.

[Tmon]

It wasn't bad, but I did find myself grinding my teeth as the giants and mammoths approached the wall without a shot being fired at them.  I dvr the show and usually watch over lunch on Monday (my wife hates the show) and I make it a point to read this thread before I watch.  I've read the books, I know mostly what happens, what I want to know is how much fast forwarding I'm going to have to do to get past the characters that I can't be bothered to care about.

[Bunk]

We didn't see them shooting any arrows down at the giants, but they do mention that the giant had already taken numerous arrows as he's charging down the tunnel at them.

This might be the first episode in the show where they actually killed off more named characters than actually died in the books.

[Speedy Cerviche]

On the one hand I want to say "SPOILERS" and chastise Threash but on the other hand I don't know what the fuck you expect us to be talking about when you come to this thread the day after the episode airs.

It's all good, I don't really care. I just don't know if we're spoilering stuff in here. Did I miss that? It's more that stuff is either spoilered or it isn't, I thought we were spoilering. But it looks like more of a sloppy mix of both.

People spoiler book stuff, not TV that already aired. You gotta avoid this thread if you're behind on the TV show.

[Speedy Cerviche]

It was odd rooting for Ser Alister Thorne, turns out he can kick butt though.
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Thorne was always presented as a badass, vet fighter, just a complete prick too.

[Bunk]

I think the tendency is to expect the trope of the big blowhard, dick head leader being shitty at his job. They might have said that Ser Alliser was bad ass, but I don't think we really expected it. I thought that sequence ended up one of the real highlights of the episode.

[HaemishM]

Great episode, and I agree that it completely blew the doors off the Battle of the Blackwater episode. The one tracking shot where they show the whole fort from one side to the other was very well done. It did feel like the wildlings killed a whole fuckload more people than the 100 that were supposedly guarding the fort. The giant scene was awesome as was the scythe.

However, Jon Snow leaving the fort at the end... the fuck? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I can only expect that the contract for Mance Rayder said he needed X amount of screen time so they made up a scene with him and Jon Snow talking next episode. Totally unnecessary and illogical, mind you.

[Threash]

PSA: next weeks episode is 66 mins long, set tivos accordingly.

[Severian]

Some quibbles here too, especially about the aforementioned lack of defender interest in the approaching giants. And rocks, although I know dropping rocks makes no sense compared to cantilevering archers out 90 degrees to fire straight down. But one thing that really stood out for me in the battle was how fucking hard that Thenn hit. There was no doubt whatsoever that the sheer force behind his axe was completely overpowering. Yet it wasn't superhero or wire-fu exaggeration, however they managed it, it felt real and earned.

[Samwise]

But one thing that really stood out for me in the battle was how fucking hard that Thenn hit. There was no doubt whatsoever that the sheer force behind his axe was completely overpowering. Yet it wasn't superhero or wire-fu exaggeration, however they managed it, it felt real and earned.

Must be the high protein diet.   

[EWSpider]

Great episode, and I agree that it completely blew the doors off the Battle of the Blackwater episode. The one tracking shot where they show the whole fort from one side to the other was very well done. It did feel like the wildlings killed a whole fuckload more people than the 100 that were supposedly guarding the fort. The giant scene was awesome as was the scythe.

However, Jon Snow leaving the fort at the end... the fuck? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I can only expect that the contract for Mance Rayder said he needed X amount of screen time so they made up a scene with him and Jon Snow talking next episode. Totally unnecessary and illogical, mind you.

[Speedy Cerviche]

They've already changed some stuff at the wall from the books, and I presume they're going to change a lot more

[HaemishM]

Really? Shit, I don't remember that at ALL. Not that my memory is the greatest.

[jgsugden]

I see three candidates for last scene of the season, and my best guess is a crap load more likely in my eyes.

I think your best guess is more likely to happen mid-late episode and the last scene of the episode will be the same one as the last scene of the book.

Yeah, you're probably right.  You didn't have to be so stone cold about correcting me, though.