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Topic: FIFA World Cup 2014 (Brazil) SPOILERS: Read at own risk (Read 140595 times)
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Lakov_Sanite
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This is great, now everyone in America can shut the fuck up and stop pretending to care about the world cup for 4 more years.
Same as the olympics.
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schild
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This is great, now everyone in America can shut the fuck up and stop pretending to care about the world cup for 4 more years.
Same as the olympics. Unlike soccer, does ANY country give a fuck about the olympics outside of during the olympics?
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Or you could put some salve on your stingy genitals and just don't watch it.
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Tale
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This. Soccer can go back to being followed by Europeans and the 3rd world for another 4 years.
The world plays football. Americans and Australians try to play something called "soccer" at the world every four years and lose badly.
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Surlyboi
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Heh, "Socceroos".
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Nebu
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The world plays football. Americans and Australians try to play something called "soccer" at the world every four years and lose badly.
You have to admit, for soccer being like the 40th most popular sport in America, they went further in the world cup than some countries where it's number one.
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Tale
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You have to admit, for soccer being like the 40th most popular sport in America, they went further in the world cup than some countries where it's number one. But it's also the third-most played sport in the US. In Australia it's actually the number one played sport, but likewise dwarfed by other sports in TV coverage and fan base.
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murdoc
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Canada is ranked 110th in the world and more people play soccer here than hockey.
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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lamaros
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There's also 310 million people in the USA, Belgium has 11...
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Tebonas
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Games like these are why I despise soccer (even as an European). The referee has too much power with his limited point of view, but we in front of the TV see more and are annoyed by wrong decisions. I only saw parts of the second half but when the German goalie fouled the Argentinian player (seen clear as day on the video replay) and the Argentinian gets the blame instead of a (maybe game deciding) penalty kick, I knew again why this game is stupid in a digtal age and turned it off.
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Ginaz
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Canada is ranked 110th in the world and more people play soccer here than hockey.
Soccer costs about $50-$100 a year. Hockey can cost upwards of $1000 or more. Guess which one people will throw their kids into if they don't have/want to save money? If costs were comparable, which do you think more Canadian parents would put their kids into? People play soccer in Canada (and probably the US) mostly because: a) they come from a country where soccer is popular, b) because its cheaper than other organized sports. The retention of interest after they're done playing as kids is low. Not as low as it use to be but the interest is still low.
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Chimpy
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This. Soccer can go back to being followed by Europeans and the 3rd world for another 4 years.
The world plays football. Americans and Australians try to play something called "soccer" at the world every four years and lose badly. If you want to be pedantic, both "football" and "soccer" are a shortening/derivation of the proper name for the sport: Association Football.
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Ginaz
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There's also 310 million people in the USA, Belgium has 11...
Its the same reason why Canada generally does better than the US in hockey and has more players in the NHL (over 50% of NHL players are Canadian, around 20% are Americans) than anyone else. The nation has most of its elite athletes involved in one sport. The US is good at pretty much every major sport but may not dominate or excel like nations such as Belgium does in soccer or Canada in hockey.
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Megrim
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Games like these are why I despise soccer (even as an European). The referee has too much power with his limited point of view, but we in front of the TV see more and are annoyed by wrong decisions. I only saw parts of the second half but when the German goalie fouled the Argentinian player (seen clear as day on the video replay) and the Argentinian gets the blame instead of a (maybe game deciding) penalty kick, I knew again why this game is stupid in a digtal age and turned it off.
Hahahaha, no.
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Tebonas
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But it definitely wasn't a free kick for the Germans.
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Megrim
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Yea thats cute. Running into the keeper isn't foul.
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Tebonas
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Yea thats cute. Running into the keeper isn't foul.
Kneeing somebody in the head should be, though.
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Teleku
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This. Soccer can go back to being followed by Europeans and the 3rd world for another 4 years.
The world plays football. Americans and Australians try to play something called "soccer" at the world every four years and lose badly. Nah, it is pretty much Europe, the third world, and Latin America (large parts of which really aren't "third world"). What I do find interesting, the more I travel, is the crazy growth in the popularity of Basketball. Looks like its turning into the next "global" sport.
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« Last Edit: July 14, 2014, 04:26:12 AM by Teleku »
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Shannow
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Yea thats cute. Running into the keeper isn't foul.
Kneeing somebody in the head should be, though. Yes because he did it on purpose. The foul on Higuan wasn't needed but it was in no way a penalty.
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Tebonas
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The point (which you ignoring) is that it wasn't a foul against Neuer.
And I see it as an indication that the current method is insufficient to make fair rulings. They need to incoproprate video evidence in their rulings instead of gut feelings and what a referee might or might not have seen on the field. This will also end all those people falling down and pretending they are hurt because an opposite player was near them.
Which thankfully both the Germans and the Argentinians didn't do.
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« Last Edit: July 14, 2014, 04:36:35 AM by Tebonas »
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Amarr HM
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Actually by FIFA rules that is a foul, it's called obstruction. That ball was always Neuers and Higuain did his very best to obstruct his path. Hence foul.
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Tebonas
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No it isn't, because the ball wasn't more than 3 feet away from Higuain.
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Amarr HM
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It's a lot different when a keeper is involved. If you impede the keeper trying to catch or punch a ball it's obstruction, or 'impeding the keeper', not sure what the official term is, sorry. I thought the ref was fairly flawless yesterday, definitely the best refereeing I've seen in a final since Pierluigi Collina. EDIT: Just looked it up as I was curious."It is an offence to restrict the movement of the goalkeeper by unfairly impeding him."
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« Last Edit: July 14, 2014, 05:13:09 AM by Amarr HM »
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Bunk
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This. Soccer can go back to being followed by Europeans and the 3rd world for another 4 years.
I like following the Whitecaps...
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Jeff Kelly
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Basically the movement of the goalkeeper inside the box is privileged especially when he moves to the ball or handles the ball. If it weren't then every other move to handle the ball or parry a shot on goal would lead to a penalty and the goalie would basically always get bum-rushed by the opponent's offense to smack the ball out of his hands. It would also be a huge risk of injury since a goal keeper is actively moving in the path of a running player.
Try making a standing jump without using your legs to get additional momentum, try to catch a ball in the penalty box when you have to compete against others players or move at the ball to prevent a goal. Every of those situations could lead to a penalty or cards if the goalkeepers actions weren't somewhat privileged and sanctioned. Strikers would always try to get the foul if that was handled similar to offensive fouls in say basketball.
The rules are clear. You don't interfere with the goalkeeper's actions when he is inside his own box.
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Speedy Cerviche
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Canada is ranked 110th in the world and more people play soccer here than hockey.
Soccer costs about $50-$100 a year. Hockey can cost upwards of $1000 or more. Guess which one people will throw their kids into if they don't have/want to save money? If costs were comparable, which do you think more Canadian parents would put their kids into? People play soccer in Canada (and probably the US) mostly because: a) they come from a country where soccer is popular, b) because its cheaper than other organized sports. The retention of interest after they're done playing as kids is low. Not as low as it use to be but the interest is still low. yeah my high school was relatively small and the only sport we had were soccer teams. Soccer fans shouldn't toss those numbers around when it's been shown to be relatively meaningless.
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Paelos
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I bet there are several people on this board who played soccer growing up, probably stopped by high school, or if they didn't stop they did by college where they just played on their intermural teams instead of anything competitive.
The pull to play in sports that are respected or matter in America is pretty high. At some point kids have to choose, and there are three viable American sports already.
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Hoax
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The reffing was great, fucking crazytown that people are bitching about it.
Argentina without Di Maria is half the team it is with him. Subbing off Lavezzi may have cost them the game, was he hurt? Argentina definitely should have won that game, match up wise this contest completely favored them especially 0-0 into extra time. If not for German Kobe aka Schweinsteiger aka MVP of the finals...
It was great though that Argentina saved some of their best and most entertaining football for the final. I had hated watching them up to that game so much. Great final, a joy to watch. Good for Germany, I'm a big fan of that team except Lahm and Muller, god Muller is a talented douche.
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Cyrrex
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After the game, Muller said something to the press that amounted to "yeah, when someone as big a person as I am is at a lost for words, you know it's a big deal"
So apparently, he is a huge douche.
As a side note, I am struggling with the fact that they gave Messi the Golden Boot. I don't think he was the best player in this world cup.
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Nebu
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As a side note, I am struggling with the fact that they gave Messi the Golden Boot. I don't think he was the best player in this world cup.
Maradona commented that Messi didn't look like he even wanted the award. But when marketing people want him to win something he didn't [deserve to] win, it is unfair. He claims it was for marketing reasons.
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The only way I can see Messi getting the Golden Ball is because he is arguably the best player in the world and he did have a direct effect on getting Argentina into the knock-out stages. That is it. I agree he wasn't the best player in the tournament and I think even he would agree.
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WayAbvPar
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Should have been Rodriguez. He carried Colombia. I could even seen Neuer...he was a beast as well. But Messi was very average.
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HaemishM
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Yeah, Messi came through in some clutch moments, but he absolutely should not have gotten the Golden Ball. Rodriguez, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Lahm, Hummels - any of those guys had as much impact if not more than Messi did.
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Cyrrex
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I would have given it to Neuer...but goalies have their own reward. Can they also with the Golden Ball?
I would have also given it to Robben before Messi.
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IainC
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I would have given it to Neuer...but goalies have their own reward. Can they also with the Golden Ball?
I would have also given it to Robben before Messi.
Goalies can win both awards. Personally I think Howard was a better Golden Glove candidate. Golden Ball is a bit more open but Messi wouldn't even be in my top 5 for this tournament.
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