Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

[ajax34i]

This is why a lot of people hate Bethesda you see, they really let the mods do their work after the 10/10 fellatio the game journos heaped on them.

Is ok, they're getting their just comeuppance with their next game, the MMO, which will crash and burn based on "fun" AND bugs, with no modders allowed to fix anything, and actual financial repercussions to them when it does flop.

[Reg]

What seems strangest to me is that the modders keep showing how to make a decent UI and yet the devs keep giving us the same big piece of crap they always do.

[Hawkbit]

Why invest time and resources into something someone is going to do better, for free and without rights to monetize it?

[Reg]

I guess that makes sense. I'd have thought they would have more pride than that though.

[Merusk]

Pride is for people who don't want to make money. Communist.

Anywho, I find myself wishing I had taken-up smithing perks on the newest character.  I keep erroneously smelting-down all the upgrades from the Ancient Drauger Longsword I'm using and don't realize it until I go to hone the new weapon to be better. 

Next trip back to Whiterun I'm going to upgrade and equip first.  This time I mean it!

I also figured out that the hair mod is corrupt and won't run, so I'll have to redownload it if I feel like it later.  Meanwhile thanks for pointing out the follower mod, I feel like a D&D adventuring party again with these 3 in tow. 

[rk47]

I recommend you dismiss at least extra followers in dungeons. The narrow corridors wasn't meant to be traversed by a party of 3 and up.
I picked up a stray dog once as follower and got so frustrated navigating some dungeons cause it would just stand on my way.
After trying to jump over it the 4th time I just fus roh dah'ed that mutt and dismissed it.

Though if you download the musket mod and bought like 4 Markath dogs to hunt wild games it'd be a new role-playing experience.

[Stormwaltz]

I suspect, but have no concrete proof, that the reason some things remain substandard in largely the same ways from title to title is the nature of BGS's staff. The company is still small for a "triple-A" dev team (I heard Skyrim was ~80), and many of the core staff have been there since Morrowind, if not before. A combination of "we've always done it this way" with "we don't have the resources to do it another way."

[Venkman]

And I'd guess not a whole lot of resources put into focus testing to tell them what's what. The UI of their games smacks of people who've gotten so used to the game at every level of development they forgot what it was like to onboard new players.

But they did have the foresight to activate a modding community

[Surlyboi]

My only problem with the multiple follower mods is the fact that some of them have bad aim when casting spells. These poorly cast spells hit Lydia, Lydia goes apeshit and I'm down a follower or two.

[Ceryse]

Rather than dismissing followers when entering narrow dungeons and such, I just tell them to wait by the entrance and then pick them up when I'm done. Main reason to have followers, imo, is the carrying capacity early on (at a certain point you get so rich all you need to loot are things you need for use instead of getting anything and everything to sell) and then to deal with dragons and such later on.

As for followers going at one another; use AFT. Has an option, that's on by default, that has followers ignore friendly fire from yourself and other followers. Occasionally you'll still get them attacking one another (usually when one of the followers is a quest follower), but you can end it by using the Tweak Commands interface to Summon All; they'll pop up next to you at peace.

[Shrike]

...stuff hits Lydia, Lydia goes apeshit and I'm down a follower or two.

Pretty much sums up followers for me. I don't use them if I can avoid it--or I park them somewhere they can't cause trouble if I can't.

I can't count the number of time I've set up a 2h sweep and hit a follower or just well-meaning but boneheaded local NPCs, which then results in a blood bath (or lots of bribes). Just not worth the trouble.

The one that about drove me nuts was that damned dog Barbas. Blocking movement, jogging my elbow when using a bow, or just flat out annoying me with shitty pathing were the sum of his contributions to my cause. After a missed easy bowshot, I went apeshit on his mangy flea-bitten ass--only to discover the miserable mutt couldn't be killed. Denied even that minor consolation, I park them or send them on their way to whatever destination indicated. Less mental wear and tear on me that way.   

[rk47]

Oldie but goodie.



 

[Father mike]

Is there an interface trick or mod that will allow me to enchant the same thing in a batch?  For example, if I have 25 iron daggers, 25 petty soul gems, and a banish enchant, Is there a way to NOT have to

select items,
select dagger,
select enchantment,
select banish, 
confirm enchantment strength, 
select  gems,
select petty soul gem,
select craft,
confirm craft,

repeat 24 more times   

[Kail]

Is there an interface trick or mod that will allow me to enchant the same thing in a batch?  For example, if I have 25 iron daggers, 25 petty soul gems, and a banish enchant, Is there a way to NOT have to ... repeat 24 more times  

Not that I've found... I mostly level enchanting by recharging magic weapons with Azura's Star.

[ajax34i]

I think the only way is with a programmable keyboard (where you can record and repeat the keystrokes and mouseclicks).

Although, if you're playing the PC version and are doing it for cash, just open the console and player.additem f 50000.  To raise the skill, incpcs enchanting.  Personally, I didn't want enchanting, smithing, speech, and alchemy to affect my level so I've player.setav each 100 then added the perk codes manually.  The UESP Wiki site has all the console codes, and also item lists, perk codes, etc.

[Fabricated]

Oldie but goodie.



 

Actually, even with Vivec dead you can complete the main quest I believe. Legit even.

[Koyasha]

Depends on who else is alive, if I remember right.  There's like two or possibly three people who can give you the information you need to finish the main quest, and if Vivec was the last one of those left alive and you kill him, it's all over.

[Dark_MadMax]

Been "playing" skyrim recently again. and by "playing" i really mean messing around with various mods without much of actual play. One thing starts to become more and more apparent to me - Skyrim is amazing sandbox(many fun tools and possibilities) with great world and decent RPG tackled in there somewhere (the vanilla story). But as to actual "game" -combat, economy ,skills etc are all fubar.   vanilla gameplay up to level 30 is probably the closest thing you can have to a game IF you force yourself not to use more than half of game mechanics (like stealth, alchemy ,enchantments ,smiting, barter)

and none of the mods actually address this properly. you can do "balance game yourself" thing, but it never quite works out for complete balance because of the sheer amount of things which needs to be rebalanced. balance is very binary  -either you are invincible either you enemies are. you can sorta balance it with armor/weapons for regular bandits , but then there is magic users and leveled enemies, and then the fact that with a few enchantments/tempering/spells you can throw it all off. like armor for example - it is basically completely useless without perks/smiting. but with them it can become impenetrable defence against physical damage

[Paelos]

The economics of Skyrim always bother me the most. There's never anything good to buy after a certain point except training, and they cap that and the amount of gold people have.

[ajax34i]

vanilla gameplay up to level 30 is probably the closest thing you can have to a game IF you force yourself not to use more than half of game mechanics (like stealth, alchemy ,enchantments ,smiting, barter)

It's what I've done (and it's my first play-through, too).

You can turn OFF leveling from these skills if you player.forceav skill 100 - make enchanting, alchemy, smithing, barter, and stealth 100 - they don't level anymore and they don't give you level-up XP, and without the perks they're not too overpowered.  Stealth, for example, armor makes a lot of noise, so even with the skill at 100, if you don't have the perks that muffle you, the enemies notice you very easily.  Barter at 100 gives something like 50% markup instead of 200% - so it's not too bad.

Anyway, I wanted to play a mage, and the spells cost enough magicka that you really need +magicka outfits, which means you can't have +resists +armor at the same time.  In any case, I'm currently at something like 40% resistances and about 30% physical damage reduction, and enough magicka to cast my spells, which is a rather easily achievable sweet spot.

[jakonovski]

I recently returned to Skyrim to finish it and all the DLC. Alduin is now gone, but I have received a far greater revelation:

Paarthurnax is Mario. They are the same voice actor.

 

It's-a me, Paarthurnax!

[rk47]

I picked up the Perk overhaul mod, SkyRe, Unarmed specialist and was pleased to suplex an enemy from sneak attacks. 
It's pretty powerful when comboed with Shortbows.

[koro]

For pure perk stuff, I prefer SPERG over SkyRe.

I almost went with SkyRe for my current game, but decided not to.

[Mac]

I recently returned to Skyrim to finish it and all the DLC. Alduin is now gone, but I have received a far greater revelation:

Paarthurnax is Mario. They are the same voice actor.

 

It's-a me, Paarthurnax!

Glad I recently finished it then, since I cannot unhear this now.

[ghost]

After getting (according to Steam    That can't be fucking right....) 345 hours into this game, I have to say that I am disappointed.  It's just brown, brown, brown and more brown interspersed with "snow", shitty repetitive dungeons and fighting the same five monsters in perpetuity.  I know it's just a reskin of Fallout 3/NV, but Jesus this is a monster of crap so far.  Am I missing the fun in here somewhere? 

[Samprimary]

After getting

to whiterun,

[tazelbain]

Olaf, the Mutilator

[satael]

picked some flowers

[Surlyboi]

And was then murdered by RK47 while trying to take a dump.

[shiznitz]

After getting (according to Steam    That can't be fucking right....) 345 hours into this game, I have to say that I am disappointed.  It's just brown, brown, brown and more brown interspersed with "snow", shitty repetitive dungeons and fighting the same five monsters in perpetuity.  I know it's just a reskin of Fallout 3/NV, but Jesus this is a monster of crap so far.  Am I missing the fun in here somewhere? 

How can you play something for 345 hours and only then decide it is shit?

[ghost]

There's no way I've played it that much.  Steam is lying.   

[Samprimary]

I was actually pretty happy with skyrim's colors, aesthetic, and atmospherics. Which actually sort of included the palate restraint. Games are usually juiced up with hyper-vivid coloration and sharpness, but skyrim manages an awful lot with things like grey snowy skies in fog, or midnight mountaintops in an overcast blizzard, and bleak copper sulfurous springs, and corroded dwemer dungeons, or muted pine forests at twilight. It made it so that when something actually colorful came about, it actually caught your attention and stood out. Like if the clouds parted and there was an aurora, or if you came across a flowered grove, or were overlooking a ridge at sunset, or walked into a non-dirty inn.

Could just be me, though. I know there were a ton of mods to vivify up skyrim like a showroom plasma TV

[ghost]

I'm not looking for WoW type crazy coloration necessarily.  Skyrim is just the land of bland.  There is little to distinguish one town from another. 

[Ingmar]

Maybe you just don't like RPGs.

[Mithas]

The small towns were fairly similar, but I thought the large ones are very unique. Markarth versus Riften?