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jgsugden
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The Deck was changed in 96 to the fireball version, as you note, but it was in place for a couple years prior to that with the Serras. The basic design existed prior to Legends, but it really took shape around then. And it was dominant in the San Francisco meta before I even started, and I started when Legends were starting to be hard to find on the shelves and people were ordering Italian Legends to get the cards.
The first time I encountered it was December 94 when playing at GameKastle in Santa Clara. I wasn't playing Weissman, but I was playing against someone that copied his deck and had played against him often. It was the first deck I saw with second level thinking and it changed how I saw the game.
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2020 will be the year I gave up all hope.
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Trippy
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schild
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I mean, there's no world where running that thing is complex so Chen must be a terrible human at a fundamental level.
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Teleku
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I mean, there's no world where running that thing is complex so Chen must be a terrible human at a fundamental level.
In the fall, he brought in people dressed up as dinosaurs to wander the office for a week as performance art.
Yes.
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"My great-grandfather did not travel across four thousand miles of the Atlantic Ocean to see this nation overrun by immigrants. He did it because he killed a man back in Ireland. That's the rumor." -Stephen Colbert
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Ironwood
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That whole article reads like a rejected Silicon Valley script. Fucking hell.
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"Mr Soft Owl has Seen Some Shit." - Sun Tzu
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Teleku
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I keep telling people who haven’t been there: Silicon Valley is a documentary, not a sitcom.
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"My great-grandfather did not travel across four thousand miles of the Atlantic Ocean to see this nation overrun by immigrants. He did it because he killed a man back in Ireland. That's the rumor." -Stephen Colbert
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Hawkbit
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Like a Klansman in the ghetto.
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I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the fact they need 120 people to execute. We were roughly that many at allrecipes.com but that included taxonomists, marketing, ad sales, ad tech, product, dev, network/dev ops, dba, testing, creative/graphic design, tech/customer support and a whole bunch of one-off positions like social media manager. They are at best a 50 person org unless either their stack is garbage or their leadership is dumber than a bucket full of hair.
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Teleku
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Considering the amount of traffic and money Kickstarter handles at this point, it seems like it would be a bigger operation than a place like allrecipies.com. Which, looking at the website, makes me assume its a 1 man operation since it appears to by a slightly more complicated pintrest page.
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"My great-grandfather did not travel across four thousand miles of the Atlantic Ocean to see this nation overrun by immigrants. He did it because he killed a man back in Ireland. That's the rumor." -Stephen Colbert
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Hawkbit
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Like a Klansman in the ghetto.
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EDIT - nevermind. I'm defending a company I don't really like. Carry on, folks.
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« Last Edit: April 18, 2018, 02:37:51 PM by Hawkbit »
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schild
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I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the fact they need 120 people to execute. We were roughly that many at allrecipes.com but that included taxonomists, marketing, ad sales, ad tech, product, dev, network/dev ops, dba, testing, creative/graphic design, tech/customer support and a whole bunch of one-off positions like social media manager. They are at best a 50 person org unless either their stack is garbage or their leadership is dumber than a bucket full of hair.
allrecipes needing 120 full-time staff is a laugh to me if it helps Edit: Kickstarter should have like, 20 people max minus a small customer support team. Allrecipes.com should have like, fucking six people. Maybe.
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« Last Edit: April 18, 2018, 03:00:45 PM by schild »
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Teleku
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EDIT - nevermind. I'm defending a company I don't really like. Carry on, folks. I maybe should have put emoticons in my original statement, as I was also mainly just joking and not trying to insult the place. Though still, that seems pretty high for that website.....
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« Last Edit: April 18, 2018, 06:59:15 PM by Teleku »
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"My great-grandfather did not travel across four thousand miles of the Atlantic Ocean to see this nation overrun by immigrants. He did it because he killed a man back in Ireland. That's the rumor." -Stephen Colbert
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Paelos
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I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the fact they need 120 people to execute. We were roughly that many at allrecipes.com but that included taxonomists, marketing, ad sales, ad tech, product, dev, network/dev ops, dba, testing, creative/graphic design, tech/customer support and a whole bunch of one-off positions like social media manager. They are at best a 50 person org unless either their stack is garbage or their leadership is dumber than a bucket full of hair.
I'm having trouble wrapping my head around why the second CEO left if things were rosy and business as usual so that Chen wanted to step back in. Typically you don't wander off from a company you've been at for less than 5 years if it's going well. Also, yeah the employee bloat issue sounds ridiculous. That's more people than I have at my company and we produce twice as much yearly revenue than them on a year over year basis.
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Trippy
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Strickler was forced out: Several sources close to Strickler’s resignation said he did not want to step down as CEO, but was asked to leave by Chen and the board, and ultimately respected their decision.
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lamaros
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Because they stopped growing, as far as I can see.
Hiring too many people and failing to grow isn't a great look for a CEO.
It could just be because of the other stuff, but I expect the board/investors like seeing that growth, 'special' company or otherwise.
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Soln
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the opportunity for evil is just delicious
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Lamaros said what I wanted. Kickstarter is a one-trick pony that missed the IndieGoGo and Patreon models. It's not growing even with a lot of social networking features.
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schild
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Kickstarter is a company where everyone could be a multimillionaire if they only had 20 employees.
Indiegogo is terrible.
Patreon is well, patreon is hot, baked, shit.
All three of them will get crushed by someone sooner rather than later.
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Soln
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the opportunity for evil is just delicious
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Kickstarter is a company where everyone could be a multimillionaire if they only had 20 employees.
Indiegogo is terrible.
Patreon is well, patreon is hot, baked, shit.
All three of them will get crushed by someone sooner rather than later.
They should be one company. They're basically just single feature companies.
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lamaros
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I don't understand how a company with revenue of 7.5million is raising 60mil in venture cap for an idea as undifferentiated and lacking in IP as Patreon.
I mean, I do. But. Idiots.
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schild
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Kickstarter is a company where everyone could be a multimillionaire if they only had 20 employees.
Indiegogo is terrible.
Patreon is well, patreon is hot, baked, shit.
All three of them will get crushed by someone sooner rather than later.
They should be one company. They're basically just single feature companies. nah, they all serve different masters kickstarter folks are dreamers (except for the scammers) indiegogo is scam artists (except for the dreamers that failed on kickstarter) patreon is individuals that are mediocre at marketing and nazis (apparently) (these are two categories of people)
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Teleku
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I'm having trouble wrapping my head around why the second CEO left if things were rosy and business as usual so that Chen wanted to step back in. Typically you don't wander off from a company you've been at for less than 5 years if it's going well.
Also, yeah the employee bloat issue sounds ridiculous. That's more people than I have at my company and we produce twice as much yearly revenue than them on a year over year basis.
So, Chen is actually a great CEO as he's fixing the problem?
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"My great-grandfather did not travel across four thousand miles of the Atlantic Ocean to see this nation overrun by immigrants. He did it because he killed a man back in Ireland. That's the rumor." -Stephen Colbert
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MahrinSkel
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When she crossed over, she was just a ship. But when she came back... she was bullshit!
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I'm having trouble wrapping my head around why the second CEO left if things were rosy and business as usual so that Chen wanted to step back in. Typically you don't wander off from a company you've been at for less than 5 years if it's going well.
Also, yeah the employee bloat issue sounds ridiculous. That's more people than I have at my company and we produce twice as much yearly revenue than them on a year over year basis.
So, Chen is actually a great CEO as he's fixing the problem? They lost 47, and hired 36 as well as paying for golden parachutes, so probably "no". --Dave
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Fabricated
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Patreon is one of those things that's going to slowly cannibalize itself to death as they slowly have to restrict what people can make as their profile rises. It's basically porn, podcasts, and Youtube channels.
Google is working on strangling Youtubers to death for using Patreon, Podcasts got other places they could go easily, and Patreon is having to slowly crack down on the porn content they allow which is already making people angry.
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Teleku
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But where else will I go for my furry rape fantasy stories?
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"My great-grandfather did not travel across four thousand miles of the Atlantic Ocean to see this nation overrun by immigrants. He did it because he killed a man back in Ireland. That's the rumor." -Stephen Colbert
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Fabricated
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You really don't want to know how much people make per month making basically what you described.
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"The world is populated in the main by people who should not exist." - George Bernard Shaw
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HaemishM
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Patreon is a great idea and an absolute shit platform. I look forward to its inevitable decline that it will ignore until too late because its CEO and employees are so far up their own pretentious asses that they don't see the iceberg until it's too late.
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Trippy
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They already almost fucked up completely once where they tried to destroy small donations cause the fixed fees were cutting into their profits.
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jgsugden
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But where else will I go for my furry rape fantasy stories?
Well....
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2020 will be the year I gave up all hope.
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