War

[Pezzle]

Our war against 0.0 systems I cannot dock in goes well.  Providence now has 38 outposts.

[Comstar]

TCF lost a Titan to someone, but no one can be bothered describing what happened.


In other news, congratulations to Himo for being on the IRC BPO kill mail.

[Sir T]

I'm not on the killmail just was in  in the gang.

Still, I'll pocket the billion isk share with a crtain amount of guilt... :)

[Yoru]

Sov system discussion moved.

[Simond]

Aggression. is too terrible to live.

And for my next trick.... 

[Endie]

From IRC's voice comms after a private meeting of the CEOs:

<Oldma> "We will come back... possibly as a different name..
<Oldma> "We will be Roaming Gangs everywhere.. you will be hearing of juicy targets for the rest of your lives.. goddamn.."

Now we've all heard the "freed from the chains of POS warfare our ~wulfpax~ will be more dangerous than ever" line, whether it be from IRC, Kenny, Rise's "reavers" or whoever.  But one Goon, Sirhan Blixt, chose to wait until now to post this:

Relieved from the necessity of guarding cities and particular points, important but not vital to our defense, with an army free to move from point to point and strike in detail the detachments and garrisons of the enemy, operating on the interior of our own country, where supplies are more accessible, and where the foe will be far removed from his own base and cut off from all succor in case of reverse, nothing is now needed to render our triumph certain but the exhibition of our own unquenchable resolve. Let us but will it, and we are free; and who, in the light of the past, dare doubt your purpose in the future?

Source: Danville, Va., April 4, 1865. One Jefferson Davis, to be exact.

[bhodi]

So you don't have to google - The Confederate President, written as he fled Richmond, Virginia as the Union army closed in. This was 9 days before his general surrendered the confederate forces at Appomattox, VA, ending the American civil war.

It's the perfect historical parallel of this tired old phrase.

Edit: I guess it's really the American civil war, not US or USA.

[Meester]

With the noose tightening I wonder how long Cult Of War and Veritas Immortalis can stand it.

[Pezzle]

Providence vs Catch action today in a decent sized fight (in Catch).  400+ involved.  The usual Providence roundup vs Catch + Atlas.  It looks like around 200 ships destroyed.  It looks like we were outnumbered a fair bit, the fight report is a mess.  CVA killed more than we lost.

[Endie]

With the noose tightening I wonder how long Cult Of War and Veritas Immortalis can stand it.

I was within about 60 seconds yesterday of setting up a PL hotdrop on a COW titan in Great Wildlands.  The idiot warped into his own bubble camp on a gate to doomsday a frigate gang (with dictors), and we had him tackled for four minutes or so, but PL just didn't quite get there in time.  If the gang FC had held off for a few minutes more before jumping then COW would have lost their second titan in a fortnight and I'd have been on the front page of the Eve login news (ok titans die all the time but doomsdaying a noob frigate gang?)  Who puts a titan on a gate and doomsdays inside bubbles when PL are within hotdrop range?

As it was we killed a bunch of Cow battleships, dictors, recons, battlecruisers and more with our frigates.  They are pretty awful.  Trying to send smartbombing battleships onto a frigate gang is a fine trick (as everyone who used to attend Frigate Club knows) but when you have one guy with a scanner fitted it leads to you exchanging a typhoon for one over-eager tristan who didn't set his orbit right.

[Endie]

Oh, also Sc"0"rched Earth are in a state of turmoil right now after those giants of the game TNT dropped some towers on their space.  Here is some free porn from their alliance mails for you: they have taken down their own jump bridge system to stop people using it to get away from the combat area to rat in safety elsewhere.  I'm not joking. although I admit i had trouble believing the alliance emails in question.

2009.07.11 15:07
Hi guys.

A bit of warning for you all. the 1-7 to 5DE JB and the M-M to 1L JB have been taken down.

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2009.07.11 17:47
This is ridiculous, that is a vital route to empire now that 90% of our cyno gens are camped. Logistics now became very hard thanks to this....

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2009.07.11 18:12
Yeah, its almost like they meant to do it...

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2009.07.11 18:15
please advise as to when they will be replaced ?

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2009.07.11 18:16
Not our call... Wasg ooing to leave them up but were told to just take them down by Elrac....  so blame Him not Us..

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2009.07.11 18:20
El'rac had them taken down so people would no go hide in M-M and rat when we need people in the fleet!  Now stop spaming.

The mere fact that they use alliance email for huge conversations should be a clue as to their awfulness.  Anyway, several key corps are getting their stuff to empire and preparing to leave the alliance so they're pretty stuffed.

Edit: it was a a cover story: the people running the JB towers (Hobo) took them down and are leaving the alliance as well :V

[Sir T]

Intrepid Crossing appear to be in full on failure cascade.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Intrepid_Crossing

[Endie]

Intrepid Crossing appear to be in full on failure cascade.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Intrepid_Crossing

I don't think I'd agree with the "full on" element, but they're dropping fast.

However, they are proving more cohesive and better at breakout ops than Kenny were by a substantial margin.  In fact, given that they were facing much the same hostile forces (minus some minor elements like SoT but plus Drone Russians), and without the support of many thousands of sycophantic GBC members, I'd say that they've proved themselves substantially superior to Kenny/Bob.  Even last night they were successfully evaccing large numbers of capitals.

They were crippled by their awfuol, awful leadership.  Oh, and their inability to sanely fit ships.

[Pezzle]

Providence forces paid a visit to some Systematic-Chaos cap ships attacking a tower in... Tash-Murkon.  Outnumbering your foes by 4-1 can have advantages :P

14 of 16 Systematic-Chaos cap ships polled did not find the experience enjoyable.  We lost an inty.  One of our friends lost a blackbird. 

[Jayce]

Sys-K always struck me as the most arrogant, but at the same time deluded, of BoB's pets.

And what Endie said made me remember a theory I'm nursing that BoB were never that good to begin with.  They were only lucky in having a relationship with the developers, having players from early beta, and having a mystique.

[Meester]

Even last night they were successfully evaccing large numbers of capitals.

Aha! Failure on GoonSwarms part!

For shame

[Daztur]

Sys-K always struck me as the most arrogant, but at the same time deluded, of BoB's pets.

And what Endie said made me remember a theory I'm nursing that BoB were never that good to begin with.  They were only lucky in having a relationship with the developers, having players from early beta, and having a mystique.

And low ping?

[Phildo]

Cat-6 cables, the secret to intergalactic hegemony!

Sys-K is in the Stain power bloc, not BoB's.

[Kovacs]

Intrepid Crossing appear to be in full on failure cascade.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Intrepid_Crossing

Corps. leaving left and right but last I heard there was still a titan baking in ER and a suprising amount of inter-corp rah rah'ing about saving it.  Apperantly we're (IRC) is evac'ing to Curse of all places as the last systems fall.  So the high point of my month?  The 10 minutes of peace mining hed. in Catch. 

  Yeah. 

[5150]

So the high point of my month?  The 10 minutes of peace mining hed. in Catch. 

  Yeah. 

You'd be better off mining grav sites in empire (high sec) based wormholes

Granted the roids arent huge and they're arent many of the high ends but if you're only mining for yourself.......

[Endie]

Intrepid Crossing appear to be in full on failure cascade.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Intrepid_Crossing

Corps. leaving left and right but last I heard there was still a titan baking in ER and a suprising amount of inter-corp rah rah'ing about saving it.  Apperantly we're (IRC) is evac'ing to Curse of all places as the last systems fall.  So the high point of my month?  The 10 minutes of peace mining hed. in Catch.  

 Yeah.  

Braver man than me, Gunga Din, if you'll mine in Hed.  And the titan is in the cooker in D-I, since your leadership seems to starve members of info: there are four potential towers.  I suspect they're all being reinforced as I write.

By the way, Curse is an odd choice.  Yes, Atlas has a bunch of blues there and in GW right now, but it's traditionally riddled with some pretty effective pirates who will seriously prey upon anyone using it for missioning, let alone ratting or mining.

Edit: Kovacs this is important.  You nurture a killer in your midst.  Do you know this man?

i'm Talin, my ship is the white tiger and i have been a hunter for as long as i can remeber my past is a blure i have no famly that i know of but my foster foter orien...but he has been killed...and the killer called him self...my brother...i now hunt this so called brother... and one day i will fined him and kill him... If you need a hunter call me... for no one gets away from the white tiger member
impass is my home

One brave Goon faced the White Tiger's member and was able to get this to us from his profile.  It's pretty much the best profile ever.

[Jayce]

i'm Talin, my ship is the white tiger and i have been a hunter for as long as i can remeber my past is a blure i have no famly that i know of but my foster foter orien...but he has been killed...and the killer called him self...my brother...i now hunt this so called brother... and one day i will fined him and kill him... If you need a hunter call me... for no one gets away from the white tiger member
impass is my home

One brave Goon faced the White Tiger's member and was able to get this to us from his profile.  It's pretty much the best profile ever.

This is awesome.  I look forward to updates from his bio when he "fineds" his brother.  And maybe more family members, even though he doesn't know of any (except his brother and "foter").  Clearly having a past that is a blure causes serious consistency problems.

[Endie]

Fool.  The White Tiger's member doesn't need to remeber his famly.

[Sir T]

I'm sorry, but all I can get in my head from that is the "wounded Tiger is most dangerous when wounded" speach...

[Kovacs]

i'm Talin, my ship is the white tiger and i have been a hunter for as long as i can remeber my past is a blure i have no famly that i know of but my foster foter orien...but he has been killed...and the killer called him self...my brother...i now hunt this so called brother... and one day i will fined him and kill him... If you need a hunter call me... for no one gets away from the white tiger member
impass is my home

One brave Goon faced the White Tiger's member and was able to get this to us from his profile.  It's pretty much the best profile ever.
[/quote]

New one on me but you're out of your mind if you think I'm not going to steal that word('ish) for wrod.

And apparently I'm not in IRC anymore and wardec's are dropping which is nice, almost exactly 18 hours too late to save my Badger, which wasn't.   

In what may or may not be news, the dregs of the IRC Diaspora are talking of moving to Curse or god forbid, Immensea under a different (as yet undecided) banner.

[Phildo]

You could become the Imperial Republic of Curse (IRC.)

[Meester]

Seems Sc0rched Earth are next on the killing list getting a beat-down from all directions presumably because of their traitorous actions against those who got them Wicked Creek in the first place. I just wonder who is going to hold Wicked Creek next (might be something to do with TNT?).

Cult Of War/Minor Threat/Cult Of War territory afterwards or Atlas? I note Morsus Mihi had a small battle with Atlas down south as well as fighting Sc0rched (can't people spell without numbers anymore?). Intrepid still have a very small part of their territory left (as do ED).

[Meester]

Seems Veritas after they grabbed a bit of space in the RA turmoil are now being attacked by Red Allliance and Pandemic Legion. Red Alliance are also under attack by Pandemic.

[Sir T]

Word has come my way that COW is extremely pissed at Atlas for various reasons. Seems Bobby Atlas is taking the BOB school of diplomacy to new heights.

[Jayce]

Word has come my way that COW is extremely pissed at Atlas for various reasons. Seems Bobby Atlas is taking the BOB school of diplomacy to new heights.

I heard about that.  Teaching them a lesson, or something? 

[setar]

Sounds good to me -- less blues. Wasn't the whole idea of the BOB wars to go back to a more splintered warfare? True, NC hasn't gotten the message yet, but if we see no more mega-coalition wars before the new Sov system arrives, all the better.

[Fordel]

All these minor wars are boring though!

[Endie]

Goonfleet took down Minor Threat's sov-claiming towers (alone for the first and with some help from RA for the second) in JLO yesterday

For those who need the backstory, JLO is one of Goonfleet's historic first station systems in 0.0, in the region of Scalding Pass.  When we last took it, we were fighting Lokta Volterra and the Southern Coalition, and we were the junior partners in what was to be the very start of the Redswarm Coalition, with Red Alliance our big brothers.  We gave up JLO when we moved to Delve, but we're now taking it back as Goonfleet Foreign Legion's Algeria.

Now, we're back and the roles are kinda reversed following the impact of Daira Lir's failed alliance theft on RA, but they still showed up with a very impressive battleship fleet who swung the battle.  It was a nice feeling after three years or so since the first time I saw it: sitting in Scalding Pass on a gate waiting to jump and seeing dozens of RA battleships silently gang-warp to the gate and jump through.  It's nice to be returning the favour, even if almost half our fleet was sitting in capitals this time.

Anyway, I had two characters in system and, thanks to people (not me!) not listening to Scavok my drone regions rokh was lost two gates from safety (first one I've lost in a looong time, and lost to the "warping..." bug).  As a huge bonus, however, that finally galvanised me do the research needed and fix my seven-second-plus ISP-side server lag, which extended to half a minute of gate jumps before 1am.  Only needed one number swapped to avoid ISP traffic-shaping and I have been suffering this since April    As a second bonus that meant I got to fly rifters on one and a blackbird on the other character: 420 dual-box tacklers and ECM every day: 25 kills and one lost rifter.

The first tower went down very easily, and it was nice to see a euro-TZ tower KM with 100% goon racial purity (Diese Killmail ist Pubbierein).

For the second tower, RA turned up on our side and Minor Threat and CoW plus allies turned up to fight us.  They titan-jumped in, and as we wanted to secure the gate that's where the battle happened.  They had an impressive battleship fleet and some very good warpins from their FC, but we compensated for the BS numbers by going all-in and bringing dreads to the gate.  They made the mistake of overcommitting their dictors and hictors at the start of the fight - nine of them - and virtually all died at once.  I think several of us tacklers were concentrating on webbing their dictors to stop them cloaking or escaping their own bubbles, and that meant we could get our primaries out at once for the rest of the fight.  The result was a tremendously one-sided fight: http://killboard.goonfleet.com/battles/1445 - with my rifter making up a sixth of our losses for the fight and them losing 38 T2 craft and battleships.  As usual, the presence of RA means our losses might be a tiny bit bigger but I don't know what, if anything, they lost.

Learning points: Scavok and Mister V are great FCs.

Now AAA has done what they do to CVA when they want fights and planted a capital-bait tower in 49- (there are still a few days until it goes sov three) while Tri are apparently moving to NPC Delve.  An attempt to draw us off from our Shermanesque March Through the South?

All these minor wars are boring though!

I can only suggest you join us in Scalding Pass.  The Legion has been involved in non-stop big fights for weeks and as a bonus we are the muscle, and rarely have to shot web at POS.  I think that Comstr is sitting at over a hundred kills in 20 days, Pred is hanging out with Sc0rched Earth in Wicked Creek and is barely behind, Himo has turned up and already had fifty kills, I have a little over one hundred as well but on three characters (one of whom is shooting at the other two, though :ninja:) and even our glorious leader Nerf has found time to grab a few dozen kills between scams and delegating to Moki.

[Sir T]

Yeah it was a great fight when they turned up. Their biggest mistake was to warp most or all of their dictors on us initially, which meant most of them got killed. But it was a very good showing from them and was a very enjoyable fight .

Oh and Endie's stolen fit was fail. It had railguns on it. Everyone knows pro Rifter pilots use lasers 

[Phildo]

Sev3rance loses a titan.