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Lantyssa
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Pretty much this. Some of us want more than combat, and even combat is hard to tune right. Look at where WoW is now, which is what SWG threw subs away for and what SWTOR is trying to be.
Having more than a focus on combat helps ensure a healthy game.
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Sky
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Oh, I'm definitely with you on that 100% Rift actually got combat pretty well, if they had that combat and soul/role system in a deeper worldy game like SWG it would've been great. But beyond the tardedness of HAM, even the skills were totally borked: there were empty boxes in the rifleman tree. Really a ding to look forward to, for sure. I wonder if anyone has pointed out that making mmo is HARD. To pull out the desiccated horse, as Darniaq and I used to like to pine: If only they had merged the Planetside and SWG projects early on, gaming nirvana would've been found. SWG's worldiness and PS's combat would be tough to beat.
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Ratman_tf
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There's a lot of former UO players for whom SWG was, apparently, the bees knees.
The harvesting and tradeskilling game was fun. Unfortunatley it was built to support the PvE and PvP portion of the game, which sucked balls. Gah. SWG.
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Ratman_tf
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I wonder if anyone has pointed out that making mmo is HARD. To pull out the desiccated horse, as Darniaq and I used to like to pine: If only they had merged the Planetside and SWG projects early on, gaming nirvana would've been found. SWG's worldiness and PS's combat would be tough to beat. How exactly would you do that without turning Planetside into a full fledged RPG? (A bad idea, IMO), or turning SWG into a shooter? (Again bad, IMO) Shake n' bake is for chicken, not video games!
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"What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation.
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Nebu
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MMO achievers do not like skill-based combat and prefer a time = power paradigm. Planetside catered to the "I like FPS, but want some stickiness" crowd while SWG was built for the sandbox-in-space folks.
Oil and water stuff.
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Lantyssa
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Oh, it's possible to do, it's just hard for devs to uncouple social mechanics from their combat ones. Something like Jedi Knight/Academy in a persistant world, with appearance-based craftables would be awesome.
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Paelos
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The key to making crafting matter is to make items different. We're in a fantasy world, but dammit if crafters only know how to the exact same shit. Well you can buy from me, or you can buy from the dude who makes the exact same shit for less. Oh and the only inputs are ever spawning crap in the world that are exactly the same.
SAME!
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Lakov_Sanite
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The key to making crafting matter is to make items different. We're in a fantasy world, but dammit if crafters only know how to the exact same shit. Well you can buy from me, or you can buy from the dude who makes the exact same shit for less. Oh and the only inputs are ever spawning crap in the world that are exactly the same.
SAME!
You are a crafter, You can make a necklace. You have 100 points. Each point can be added to any stat of your choosing. Done. The problem with making crafting unique is that it would lead to things like having to search through 1k different necklaces all with the same name on an auction house.
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Samprimary
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question: have there been any pictures of this game showing a purple lightsaber wielded by jedi knights or consulars?
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Lantyssa
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I've only seen them used by the two Sith classes so far, but those were recent, too.
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SnakeCharmer
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Shake n' bake is for chicken, not video games! Ricky Bobby disagrees.
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Mnemon
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All this swearing upsets me. I'm sensitive.
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Lantyssa
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Only the Inquisitor was using purple. The Jedi had green and blue blades.
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Arrrgh
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Is there some lore thing about purple? Or you simply like the color?
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Lakov_Sanite
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An invisible lightsaber would be kind of awesome.
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Fordel
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Is there some lore thing about purple? Or you simply like the color?
Windu!
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Lantyssa
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Purple wasn't supposed to exist, but Samuel L. Jackson wanted purple, so it happened.
Me? I just like purple.
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Samprimary
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Yup, if I have my choice I'm going with purple (or silver, if by chance it gets approved)
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Paelos
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I love gold!
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Simond
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See, that's instant DLC right there: "Now selling lightsaber crystals! 50c for individual crystals, $2 for a pack of five. New colours now available - fuschia, periwinkle, jonquil and puce!" E: Let's get silly with the colours!
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« Last Edit: May 21, 2011, 04:33:43 AM by Simond »
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rattran
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It's not fully silly until they add patterned lightsabers, striped, plaid, buffalo check, etc.
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Venkman
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It's going to be even less silly when they actually do that
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Miasma
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They're going to have to do something crazy with the colours since they will all look the same no matter if it's junk, epic, level 1 or level 50. There won't be much satisfaction from how higher level lightsaber loot looks since all they can really change is a hilt you will barely see. Same with jedi armor really, they would just have different looking plain robes wouldn't they? Maybe they can say the jedi back then liked to bling out their robes.
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Simond
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It's going to be even less silly when they actually do that Honestly, that sort of DLC I have exactly zero issues with. Someone wants to spend X cash to get a neon pink lightsaber blade (that works the same as my green one)? More power to 'em.
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Shrike
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I'm down with the puce.
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Malakili
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They're going to have to do something crazy with the colours since they will all look the same no matter if it's junk, epic, level 1 or level 50. There won't be much satisfaction from how higher level lightsaber loot looks since all they can really change is a hilt you will barely see. Same with jedi armor really, they would just have different looking plain robes wouldn't they? Maybe they can say the jedi back then liked to bling out their robes.
The jedi in the videos so far tend to wear some armor.
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caladein
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I will savagely beat whoever thought shoulderpads were a good idea in this game.
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Sheepherder
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They're going to have to do something crazy with the colours since they will all look the same no matter if it's junk, epic, level 1 or level 50. There won't be much satisfaction from how higher level lightsaber loot looks since all they can really change is a hilt you will barely see. Same with jedi armor really, they would just have different looking plain robes wouldn't they? Maybe they can say the jedi back then liked to bling out their robes. Lightsabres: Fire effects, electrical arcs, motes drifting off the blade, intermittent secondary colours, translucent blades, flickering blades, pulsing blades, hilt design. Robes: Bits of armor, insignia, shape, material.
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Venkman
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I suspect this is why the blades are so out-sized :)
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Amaron
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They're going to have to do something crazy with the colours since they will all look the same no matter if it's junk, epic, level 1 or level 50. There won't be much satisfaction from how higher level lightsaber loot looks since all they can really change is a hilt you will barely see. On the other side of that you don't have to worry about your weapon being a bunch of metal held together with duct tape. Nor will you have some sort of force staff look like a tentacle on a stick.
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Ratman_tf
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They're going to have to do something crazy with the colours since they will all look the same no matter if it's junk, epic, level 1 or level 50. There won't be much satisfaction from how higher level lightsaber loot looks since all they can really change is a hilt you will barely see. On the other side of that you don't have to worry about your weapon being a bunch of metal held together with duct tape. Nor will you have some sort of force staff look like a tentacle on a stick. Whip sabers could cover that. I personally want a minigun that fires lightsabers. And huge shoulderpads, of course.
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SnakeCharmer
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I want lightsabers on my shoulderpads.
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UnSub
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I'm down with the puce.
Obi-Wan says, "Use the Puce, Luke!"
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Tannhauser
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I want lightsabers on my shoulderpads.
You fool! What if they read these boards?
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