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MisterNoisy
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'Thanks for preordering this dumpster fire' is definitely a unique approach to marketing.
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rattran
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'Thanks for preordering this dumpster fire' is definitely a unique approach to marketing. Doubly glad I didn't preorder now.
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Wasted
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Yeah me too. Between this self-admission and the lack of private servers at launch I'm happy to let the extended 'retail early access' play out without me.
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Tebonas
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Everybody who preordered it ought to be punched in the face for encouraging their idiocy anyway. The only thing this game does is take away developing resources from games people actually want to play.
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Cyrrex
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Everybody who preordered it ought to be punched in the face for encouraging their idiocy anyway. The only thing this game does is take away developing resources from games people actually want to play.
This. And before anyone jumps in and says something about it being different teams or studios or whatever, don't bother. A company can only make so many investments and/or strategic choices with its brand and resources. We could be getting the next Skyrim instead of this bullcrap. Bethesda excels at making games I can get utterly lost in. Why on earth would I want other people there? Glad I have a VR, as it means I can still get hundreds of hours out of my existing Bethesda shit instead of this shit.
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schild
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Everybody who preordered it ought to be punched in the face for encouraging their idiocy anyway. The only thing this game does is take away developing resources from games people actually want to play.
This. And before anyone jumps in and says something about it being different teams or studios or whatever, don't bother. A company can only make so many investments and/or strategic choices with its brand and resources. We could be getting the next Skyrim instead of this bullcrap. Bethesda excels at making games I can get utterly lost in. Why on earth would I want other people there? Glad I have a VR, as it means I can still get hundreds of hours out of my existing Bethesda shit instead of this shit. I'm jumping in to tell you how wrong you are, even with your disclaimer that doesn't make any sense. This is a purchased studio without the chops to make Skyrim. Apparently this studio was tasked with shoving a multiplayer mod into fallout 4 and crafting a new world. While the former is likely incredibly hard, the latter seems to show you wouldn't want them on one of their marquee games.
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Jeff Kelly
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Not shipping games that have "spectacular" bugs apparently never occurred to them
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Jeff Kelly
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Also retrofitting multiplayer into Bethesda's aging custom gamebryo engine must have been a traumatic experience from what I've heard. The engine not being suited for it is a massive understatement and some of the developers almost suffered from PTSD just talking about it.
So I expect this to be a massive dumpster fire of bugs when it releases.
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Cyrrex
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Everybody who preordered it ought to be punched in the face for encouraging their idiocy anyway. The only thing this game does is take away developing resources from games people actually want to play.
This. And before anyone jumps in and says something about it being different teams or studios or whatever, don't bother. A company can only make so many investments and/or strategic choices with its brand and resources. We could be getting the next Skyrim instead of this bullcrap. Bethesda excels at making games I can get utterly lost in. Why on earth would I want other people there? Glad I have a VR, as it means I can still get hundreds of hours out of my existing Bethesda shit instead of this shit. I'm jumping in to tell you how wrong you are, even with your disclaimer that doesn't make any sense. This is a purchased studio without the chops to make Skyrim. Apparently this studio was tasked with shoving a multiplayer mod into fallout 4 and crafting a new world. While the former is likely incredibly hard, the latter seems to show you wouldn't want them on one of their marquee games. Yeah, I was being cranky and trolly. I want some other game to exist rather than this one.
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Tebonas
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You might be right, I don't know that much about game development. But if there is even one employee at the parent company involved in this crapfest, it is one employee too many that could have done something useful like bring coffee to coders programming a better game.
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Father mike
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I would like to thank Vladimir Putin for ensuring that every member of the NPR news staff has had to say "Pussy Riot" on the air multiple times.
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Rendakor
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What a not so surprising surprise.
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Falconeer
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Actually, everyone seemeed to be worried about "other people" and that is the one problem not reported in the review. Lack of NPC? Yes, that sucks.
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Riggswolfe
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That "review" is pretty terrible. It's clear he went in already knowing he wouldn't like it and out of his complaints the only one that he really has a point on is the one about no NPCs. Vats? Duh. It's multiplayer. You can't slow time in a multiplayer game. "Checkpoints" does he mean respwan points? Duh. It's multiplayer.
That's just a pretty awful article all around.
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Mandella
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I gotta agree with Riggswolfe above. Forbes is apparently not the place to go for good gaming reviews.
That said, this version of Fallout does not seem to be even as completed as the admittedly lax standards of today's multiplayer survival/builder games. Shame really, I would have liked the setting.
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Hawkbit
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I gotta agree with Riggswolfe above. Forbes is apparently not the place to go for good gaming reviews.
Honestly, the reviews that matter are the ones here. I usually cross reference reviews against the opinions here and most often the views here matter more. Example: Even though Falc was totally wrong about DQXI, I still appreciated his thoughts on why he didn’t like it. I trust game opinions of the people here more than I do on any site that generates revenue from the industry.
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Falconeer
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Forbes is exactly the place where they wrote that Dragon Quest XI is probably the best RPG of all time. For a second I thought it was a review from The Onion.
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schild
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Here's the thing.
No one cares about the content of the Forbes Review. No one is asking whether or not they thought it was fun. But it did say exactly what a lot of us feared in a game with only half a design and zero of the narrative.
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Yegolev
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Surely, I'm not the only one who has learned how to glean useful information from terrible game reviews. Since they are all terrible reviews written by terrible people.
I watched a video and even without playing it myself, the aiming looked a lot like what I have to deal with in FO4 and far from something like Destiny. I use VATS in FO4 because shooting otherwise sucks.
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Falconeer
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HaemishM
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My wife's stream team pre-ordered this for her and she tried to get in tonight. What... a... shitshow. Her machine is in the acceptable specs but it doesn't matter. No matter how low she sets the video, it runs like ass - a gorgeous slideshow. She hasn't even made it out of the vault yet. It has deleted itself and require a redownload 3 times already.
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Riggswolfe
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My wife's stream team pre-ordered this for her and she tried to get in tonight. What... a... shitshow. Her machine is in the acceptable specs but it doesn't matter. No matter how low she sets the video, it runs like ass - a gorgeous slideshow. She hasn't even made it out of the vault yet. It has deleted itself and require a redownload 3 times already.
I had to redownload it about an hour before Beta actually went live but it went quick and I was in half an hour before the official start time. I had fun just running around with friends in it. I think it'll give me 2-3 months of enjoyment which is all I can really ask.
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Jeff Kelly
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Warning. If you click the wrong things the Bethesda client will accidentally erase the whole beta install
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Falconeer
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If you have preordered this game and are in the beta, you have 3 friends codes to share. They are on Bethesda.net, click on your account face (top right) and "Transaction History". Don't let them go wasted.
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calapine
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schild
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Falconeer
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As soon as I spawned in the game for the first time I had to endure a guy that was barking into his phone telling his friend how bad the game is. It was quite funny in a way, except for the fact that he was talking over the overseer. Unfortunately, that seems to be an obvious issue: there are lots of dialogues and they often end up covered by what happen in the world (ie: other people). Also, how do I turn off my damned hot mic? I can tell I am annoying other people but I don't know how to shut myself off. "Options" aren't that clear and it looks like the only safe way is to physicall disconnect my microphone.
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schild
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Yeah. It's very bad. Insultingly bad.
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Falconeer
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Mmm what do you particularly hate so far? I have only dabbled with it for 1 hour and it just feels like a generic Fallout chapter with some occasional roaming idiot but without NPCs. What I am trying to say is that I am totally unimpressed but it's consistent with what I was expecting from Fallout Online. Meaning: I don't think Fallout Online is a good idea.
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schild
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it's a tech abortion
also it offers me literally nothing any other fallout game doesn't already do better? You know, with a bad narrative and without other people?
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Sir T
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I saw part of a stream of it tonight, and my reaction was "it looks exactly like Fallout 4. I want to play Fallout 4 now"
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Falconeer
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Yes I had the same reaction after playing for an hour: "This world is nice... but where are the Fallout characters? I wanna play Fallout 3/4/NV right now".
With that said, I see the potential fun of playing some co-op Fallout with your friends, and building your base or house is always cool. But that's pretty much it, there's really nothing to gain from the presence of unknown players. This presents the same problems that Elder Scrolls Online did. Good product, immense content, but who cares? What you gain does not make up for what you lose. Also, that one still had NPCs.
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taolurker
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it's a tech abortion
also it offers me literally nothing any other fallout game doesn't already do better? You know, with a bad narrative and without other people?
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